What good is a battery powered mini? You’d still have to plug it in all the time to charge it. And wouldn’t you need a battery powered monitor to use it?
A battery-powered sarcasm detector would suffice.
What good is a battery powered mini? You’d still have to plug it in all the time to charge it. And wouldn’t you need a battery powered monitor to use it?
A battery-powered sarcasm detector would suffice.![]()
The dGPU in the base model was an advancement that Apple was pretty much forced to make for the 15" Touch Bar MacBook Pro to remain competitive (even vs. the 13" Touch Bar MacBook Pro), as I already tried to explain. Using that as a justification for the $300 higher price is the same as using the hex-core CPU as justification had Apple upped the price with the 2018 models (which thankfully didn't happen, unless you count the attempted upsell of the 13" Touch Bar models over the non-Touch Bar models). Both of these are evolutionary improvements to keep the 15" MacBook Pro current / competitive, and neither should increase the price.
Yes, headlines like that are meant to attract clicks. And for a lot of people it just confirms their bias that Apple products are too expensive, while they don't bother to break down why it's so expensive...
Apple is using professional-grade NVMe 4 TB SSDs (very expensive to begin with), and positioning them as an optional upgrade for certain professional use cases. It shows that Apple is actually returning some focus back to professional Mac users, which is great to see.
No he’s being serious, he really thinks a battery powered mini would be a great product. I think probably Apple would sell less than 1,000.A battery-powered sarcasm detector would suffice.![]()
The guy he replied to isn’t being sarcastic, I think. He’s been asking for a battery powered mini since his first post. And a Mac Pro with 24 hour battery life.
No he’s being serious, he really thinks a battery powered mini would be a great product. I think probably Apple would sell less than 1,000.
I don’t understand the use case; personally when I think battery powered computer, I think laptop. Maybe I just think too much in-the-box.
They can’t even be compared. The SSD in the current MBPs are easy 15 times faster (if not more) than a laptop HDD. Other brands go cheap on the SSD and offer those only having 20-30% of the speed so they can be cheaper.With inflation the MBP is actually slightly cheaper than it should be. In 2007 a baseline MBP was $2000 which is $2430 in today’s dollars. The real problem is the price of SSD storage. To get decent storage nowadays you have to spend several hundred more dollars which makes these new MBPs seem way more expensive than they were years ago. In 2007 you got 160 GB and could upgrade to 250 GB. Currently, baseline is 256 GB, which is only 56% larger than baseline was over a decade ago. Of course, HDDs were a very mature technology even back then. While SSDs aren’t new, they aren’t nearly as mature as HDDs were in 2007. Considering that the switch from HDD to SSD has probably been the biggest performance enhancement to these computers in a long time, to me the cost is justified. SSDs will hopefully continue to drop in cost over time.
Oh wow.
iMacs have always been laptops on a stand so nothing surprising here.So is it faster than last year's imac? (27 inch 4.2 GHz (4 cores))
Honestly though, I’m not saying it to be critical of him. It’s definitely an unusual ask and I don’t see the use case but any time I’ve seen him talking about he’s been polite and hasn’t resorted to name calling or anything because someone else doesn’t want what he wants.
They can’t even be compared. The SSD in the current MBPs are easy 15 times faster (if not more) than a laptop HDD. Other brands go cheap on the SSD and offer those only having 20-30% of the speed so they can be cheaper.
No, but I was positive the battery part was a joke.
There absolutely is a use case for a small computer you carry around and hook up to a display, but there’s no way Apple will cater to such a niche.
iMacs have always been laptops on a stand so nothing surprising here.
Yes it could if Apple wanted to. Back in 2012 the high end Mac Mini used the same processor as the 15” MacBook but they did not keep that up sadly. It’s really a shame.Any reason this processor couldn’t be in a new Mini? I mean, if it’s power-miserly enough to live in a laptop, it could certainly be in a desktop computer.
You get used to it.
That's all well and good, now take the machine and plug an HDMI cable into it.
You’re forgetting that those $2000 models were integrated graphics only. The models with dGPU started at $2500We're now into the second year of the 2016 design, therefore:
Conclusion: You have to go all the way back to 2008 or 2009 to get close to the 2018 base price for the 15" MacBook Pro. A $300 price drop across the lineup would bring the Touch Bar MacBook Pro up to the same value-for-money as previous models sold from 2010 to 2015.
- For the Retina design, it makes sense to compare it to the 2014 models. $1,999 = $2,127.80 adjusted for inflation.
- For the Unibody design, it makes sense to compare it to the 2010 models. $1,799 = $2,078.95 adjusted for inflation.
- For the pre-Unibody design, it makes sense to compare it to the 2008 models. $1,999 = $2,310.08 adjusted for inflation.
It’s comical you compare a MacBook pro to “every other computer company” just because they use Intel chips...lol.You mean the same update along with every other computer company that's using Intel's new chips? Is that really how far you're willing to bend over to defend Apple? Cuz the actual hardware they are responsible for is stupidly lacking, including: screen resolution, crap new keyboard design, lacking MagSafe (which is totally, f*cking doable with USB-C), only 2 ports on the 13" MBP, etc, etc, etc...
Awesome. Now update the non touchbar version please Apple.![]()
They were hoping that Apple would switch to Nvidia.it's 2018 and people are still complaining about the graphics chip in a macbook pro. when will these people quit?
Whatever. Zdigital2015’s answer was much more helpful, being an actual technical answer to a technical question.Because Apple does not want it to compete with more expansive Macs. Customer choice comes a VERY distant second, to Apple’s profits.
They were hoping that Apple would switch to Nvidia.
[doublepost=1531706455][/doublepost]In 2 weeks, getting a base model 13.3...later egpu for rendering, better than overpriced 2017 or used 16/17 Mac
2018 MacBook Pro models feature the biggest yearly CPU performance gains since 2011, according to Geekbench founder John Poole.
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Geekbench 4 scores indicate the latest 15-inch models have a 12 to 15 percent increase in single-core performance, while multi-core performance is up 39 to 46 percent, compared to the equivalent 2017 models.
A new 15-inch MacBook Pro with the best-available 2.9GHz six-core Intel Core i9 processor, with Turbo Boost up to 4.8GHz, has a multi-core score of 22,439, for example, a 44.3 percent increase versus a 2017 model with a then-best 3.1GHz quad-core Core i7 and Turbo Boost up to 4.1GHz.
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Likewise, for the latest 13-inch models, Geekbench scores show a 3 to 11 percent increase in single-core performance, and an impressive 81 to 86 percent increase in multi-core performance versus equivalent 2017 models.
A new 13-inch MacBook Pro with the best-available 2.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, with Turbo Boost up to 4.5GHz, has a multi-core score of 17,557, for example, an 83.8 percent increase versus a 2017 model with a then-best 3.5GHz dual-core Core i7 and Turbo Boost up to 4.0GHz.
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Poole attributes the increases in performance to additional cores, higher Turbo Boost frequencies, and the switch to DDR4 memory.
2018 MacBook Pro models feature eighth-generation Intel Core processors, with up to six cores on 15-inch models and up to four cores on 13-inch models, both firsts. The refresh marked the first increase in cores since 2011, when the first quad-core 15-inch MacBook Pro models were released.
Interestingly, as Poole notes, the new 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar models are now competitive with 15-inch models from 2017 in both single-core and multi-core performance, essentially making it a smaller replacement.
Poole also notes that these Geekbench scores are preliminary, and likely to rise over the coming weeks, as on brand new machines, macOS completes several setup tasks in the background that can temporarily degrade performance. He says these tasks vary and can take up to several days to be completed.
Apple advertises the new 15-inch MacBook Pro as up to 70 percent faster, and the new 13-inch model as up to two times faster, than the equivalent 2017 models, but Poole told MacRumors that other benchmarks may show different results than Geekbench. Performance in real-world usage will also vary.
Geekbench 4 is a popular cross-platform CPU and GPU benchmark from Primate Labs, with apps available for Mac and iPhone and iPad.
Article Link: Geekbench Shows 2018 MacBook Pro Has Biggest Yearly Performance Gain Since 2011
Yeah it’d stay plugged in most of the time, but you take it with you without shutting down, just like a laptop. And you wouldn’t need a UPS just like a laptop. And you could use it anywhere, just like a laptop.What good is a battery powered mini? You’d still have to plug it in all the time to charge it. And wouldn’t you need a battery powered monitor to use it?