Geneva Motor Show 2009

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  1. drlunanerd macrumors 65816

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    And we start with Volkswagen's new Polo.

    I think it looks excellent, a return to form for VW following on from the Mark VI Golf and new Scirocco. A classier alternative to the new Fiesta, we'll have to see if it can match its ride and handling.

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  2. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    I don't think this car was ever meant to be, or look, classy. I think the Fiesta looks better, tbh. Saying that, this is a VW, and the Fiesta is a Ford (although it's a Euro Ford), so the VW will most likely have sportier handling and suspension than the Fiesta, while also being far more expensive to fix. :eek:

    I'd take the Fiesta.
     
  3. drlunanerd thread starter macrumors 65816

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    We'd actually expect the exact opposite. Ford in Europe have been the class leaders for ride and handling for a long time now, certainly since the Mark 1 Focus.

    I am writing from a UK perspective by the way. We are a bunch of snobs when it comes to cars over here and if anyone claimed a Ford is classier* than a VW they'd get laughed out of the pub ;)

    *Classier doesn't necessarily mean better - see the Cool Wall for more information
     
  4. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    Yes, I know that about Ford in Europe, or should I just say Ford outside of North America. However, in terms of looks, I don't know if VW's el-cheapo model actually looks classier than a new Ford Fiesta.

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    EDIT: Or perhaps I'm simply confusing "classy looking" and "good looking".
     
  5. drlunanerd thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I do like the Fiesta, see them in the flesh and they're eye-catching, but with styling that I think will date fairly quickly with more bling and faddish elements (especially the interior). By classy I mean more timeless understated design.

    2009 Polo = Unibody MacBook.
    2009 Fiesta = Dell Adamo.
    Both good products but one's just slightly more tacky than the other.
    ;)
     
  6. arkitect macrumors 601

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    I have never been able to disassociate the name Fiesta from the porn mag… :eek:
     
  7. drlunanerd thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Exactly!

    They're both smut, just one's a little more cerebral ;)

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  8. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Saw those pictures a couple days ago on VWVortex, now they also have added the...

    Polo BlueMotion Concept

    Interesting how our big wheel craze is at odds with the low rolling resistance-low mass tire/wheel combo.
     
  9. quagmire macrumors 603

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    Can it escape from a Corvette like the Fiesta?

    Or be used as a beach assault vehicle?


    :p
     
  10. drlunanerd thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks, some better photos in there.
    I'm just excited that at last the Polo looks sharp again. I facepalmed when VW facelifted the current model :eek:
    I have an interest - I serviced my partner's 12 year old Polo yesterday and it's been a paragon of reliability and dirt-cheap running costs. Yes, something lacking in VWs of recent years but I'm optimistic the next gen cars will claw back that reputation.
     
  11. bartelby macrumors Core

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    Didn't the blue motion fail in the fuel efficiency test too?
     
  12. drlunanerd thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, Jeremy's twin-turbo diesel Jaguar XJ probably beat it on that run from Basel to Blackpool! ;)

    Look, if this turns into a Polo-bashing thread I'll have it closed :p
     
  13. vincebio macrumors 6502a

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    to the OP

    apart from the fact i almost fell asleep looking at that new polo, which part 'classier' are you referring to?

    its a god awful unimaginative boxed in boring design for the masses...period.

    scirocco looks like its ate too much pies as well.....even the new golf looks, well the same old same old. crap boring designs...

    at least BMW had passion in the designs for a while...like them or not.

    take off the VW badge and stick a hyundai badge on there and you got yourself a clone...no different.

    now, if you want classier, step over to the Alfa stand and sit in the Brera S.
    Style and substance (with understeer).....(and a few arguments with dealerships) :)

    or the Mito GTA...tasty
     
  14. iGav macrumors G3

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    Typically refined, sober and unapologetically Germanic in it's poise. I like it. :) In fact I'd argue that it's preferable to the heftier Golf MKVI, or maybe this Polo is the car the VI should be in deference to the I? Perhaps.

    Though there's definitely a hint of the particularly handsome & menacing 2000-2003 Mitsubishi Galant Sport/Classic in its snout. ;)

    I'm liking Audi's new A4 allroad as well, much more visually balanced, and thus satisfying aesthetically than the A6 allroad.

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  15. drlunanerd thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Ah, my esteemed colleague iGav. Your considered opinion is most warming to the cockles :D This man has class, others please take note ;)
     
  16. drlunanerd thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I do take your point. Although the Kia/Hyundai C'eed is a good design too, so I don't think that's derogatory.

    Now the Brera is tasty. In spite of its fat arse, I like big butts and I cannot lie ;) Unfortunately the performance and handling isn't there to match the looks, and as an ownership proposition it doesn't stir the greying accountant in me either.

    Regarding BMW, I do have a guilty secret to share. Against all my instincts, the following car is one of my favourites at the moment, but only in white:

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    In the flesh it looks like a Stormtrooper armoured personnel carrier :cool:
     
  17. iGav macrumors G3

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    And then I go and spoil it all by mentioning a Skoda. :p :p :p

    Disappointed that Skoda felt the need to meddle with it's homage to the Matra Rancho, particularly the removal of the continuity of the A-frame/Roof Rails, the general front end (bumper, grill, bonnet overlap on the wings) and the relocation of the rear door handles.

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  18. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    I can't take you seriously anymore. :p
     
  19. takao macrumors 68040

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    the fiesta sure is going to look dated soon .. the front already looks like an old peugeot or new korean car already _now_
    too late with that look..

    the Focus at it's time set the pace but now a few years later Ford are taking the backseat

    on the new Polo: finally some good design across the cars from VW without overdoing it (Renault i'm looking at you) .. you actually can now recognize much better what brand it is


    for the skoda Yeti .. ughh

    as for any Alfa: on a Mac forum i only have to say: look aroudn a little and see if it fits you:
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    i see what you did there

    PS: remember where the Designer of the VW Golf VI worked before ? yeah it was Alfa Romeo and he designed the 145,146,147 and 156
     
  20. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    When you go and mention a Yeti, we sort of expect it to be in respect to a body hair problem.
     
  21. DeepIn2U macrumors 68040

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    Sorry DrLunanerd,

    Although Audi was smart bringing the AllRoad down from the A6 platform to the A4; I prefer the the S4 or even the S5 Coupe. BOTH not only has performance and excellent handling (all-wheel drive), but they do so with such aplomb its like having a bodyguard like Liam Neeson [S5 - Taken] at your side, rather than a brute [AllRoad - Bourne Supremacy].

    PS, site recommendation for Audi owners or potential buyers ... http://fourtitude.com/ !
    Strange that Audi seems to be the only company building what owners/future buyers want in all segments and making a profit doing so without cutting back on racing investments??!!

    Love Audi & BMW but the 4-Rings more so than ever. Audi is celebrating their Centennial this year! 100years.
     

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