Genius is Unavailable for song...

Discussion in 'iPod' started by downingp, Sep 13, 2008.

  1. downingp macrumors 6502a

    Jun 26, 2006
    With the new iTunes 8 and Genius I am running into some problems with the "Genius" creating a playlist on a certain albums. I can't imagine them being too rare or obscure. For an example I have the new Metallica CD. The Genius is not able to create a playlist based on any of the songs.
    I did the recommended update for the genius. Is there another fix for this?

  2. backsidetailsli macrumors 65816


    Aug 1, 2006
    are the songs available in the itunes store? if not, then thats why
  3. ooALoo macrumors newbie

    Aug 5, 2007
    Same here

    I'm having exactly the same problem with all my songs on iTunes. I have yet to find one song that will create a Genius Playlist - not even ones I've downloaded from iTunes. I've updated Genius a few times as recommended but still no luck. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
  4. DanielJvdBerg macrumors regular

    Jun 1, 2008
    The Netherlands.
    Same, a lot of songs are working. But I have a really large collection of Hardstyle and Hardcore, which sadly iTunes doesn't have in their collection. This style of music is rather popular in the Netherlands, and I can't see why Apple isn't getting this music on the store.
    I'm downloading everything without paying now, because I simple don't want the hassle of going to the store, buying it, going home, rip it to digital etc.

    Back to topic, bottom line is I can't Genius my Hardcore, and that just sucks:mad:!
  5. bartelby macrumors Core


    Jun 16, 2004
    I'd say just over 1/3 of my library isn't on itunes so I get that message quite a lot.
  6. downingp thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Jun 26, 2006
    The new Metallica album is definitely in the iTunes store. I would think it would be able to create a playlist.
  7. soLoredd macrumors 6502a

    Mar 12, 2007
    Almost all of my 50GB of songs are bought from iTunes. I can barely get any of them to work on Genius though. Just bought the new Joshua Radin album, wanted to make a Genius playlist of one of the songs, and I get the unavailable dialog. Update. Same thing.

    Hopefully it gets better. I'm not a Top 40 kind of guy.
  8. orangetrumpeter macrumors member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Urbana, IL
    It also does not work with any Classical music. Since that is what 98% of my library is, I'm out of luck. Thankfully it works with Jazz.......
  9. juswest macrumors regular

    Jul 30, 2008
  10. benlangdon macrumors 65832


    Jan 13, 2008
    i got this problem to,

    thread jack, what are some good classical artists.
    not singing so much in them though.
    i have the normal, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Verdi, and some others.
  11. Apple Ink macrumors 68000

    Apple Ink

    Mar 7, 2008
    I have a lot of multilingual stuff collected from pan Eurasia and sadly..... Genius becomes foolish in that regard!
  12. ooALoo macrumors newbie

    Aug 5, 2007
    Its better knowing I'm not on my own on this one. Worryingly though, a lot of the songs I have tried to use Genius on aren't particularly obscure but yet Genius still comes up as song unavailable. I'm really disappointed with this because Genius seemed like a great idea.
  13. levitynyc macrumors 65816

    Aug 19, 2006
    Apple hasnt collected enough data from people who downloaded the new metallica CD.

    I am having the same problem, but once Apple gets enough information, youll see Genius playlists.
  14. Pixellated macrumors 65816

    Apr 1, 2008
    As a rule of thumb, if you can 'Get album artwork' in iTunes, genius will work.
  15. Scepticalscribe Contributor


    Jul 29, 2008
    The Far Horizon
    I'm in the same position; classical music appears to be alien to this piece of software. Nor does it work with all jazz. Having clicked on some lounge/French cafe style music (Cafe Orchestra, Yann Tiersen, Cafe de Paris), Genius offered me..... Carla Bruni (perhaps more apt than I first thought). I disconnected the thing on the spot.

    Again, that's me, to a certain extent.

    As have I. It seems if you are not a 'top 40' kind of person, Genius does not know how to cope; anything unusual, or non-mainstream (a world where everything from the Beatles to classical is not mainstream!) does not exist in this universe.
  16. Schtumple macrumors 601


    Jun 13, 2007
    Generally, as a rule of thumb, anything that gets smarter over time, is going to be dumb at first. :)
  17. midnightmoon macrumors newbie

    Sep 15, 2008

    Just go into iTunes library and hold Ctrl and press A, then right click on mouse and check selection!
    Worked for me!
  18. ooALoo macrumors newbie

    Aug 5, 2007
    That's fixed it. Never thought of doing that.
  19. greenday123 macrumors 6502

    Dec 15, 2005
    I think it might be because the album was just released, my itunes wont create a genius playlist for any of the songs on the new underoath cd, and that cd isnt even two weeks old, that could be why?
  20. aluren macrumors 65816

    Sep 9, 2008
    yeah i've had the same problem. and to think when i first heard the word "genius", i thought it's a program that actually analyze each song technically and create a playlist through that... but instead, it's just a playlist created for us by apple...
  21. Cmu93 macrumors member

    Dec 4, 2007
    Yup, that's it. I just realized that. Once all my songs were checked, it was able to create playlists for anything. Works well so far.

  22. jess hickey macrumors newbie

    Mar 2, 2008
    I was having the same problem as everyone is describing. I went in highlighted and checked all songs went to store and checked update genius and presto...genius now works for all songs (even songs that wouldn't work just prior to doing this(
  23. HurricaneIke macrumors newbie

    Sep 13, 2008
    I dont get this genius.
    I bought "Back from the Void Border" by Whitechapelonian from iTunes and can't get any of the tracks to work on Genius ...
  24. alent1234 macrumors 603

    Jun 19, 2009
    this was killing me with Death Magnetic that i got from a friend.

    what i did was to select all the songs, convert ID3 tag to v2.4, update Genius and then it worked
  25. M87 macrumors 65816

    Jul 18, 2009
    I don't think any of the music I've bought from iTunes has worked with genius. They are mostly lesser known metal bands though. Also, they should get rid of the "Create ringtone" option if it doesn't work with any songs.

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