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Wireless, ok. But the chinese one seems to be a pure gag patent. There should also be laws to limit these when it comes to blocking a manufacturer. Can‘t see Qualcomm actually swiping away apps on their chips or the famous Qualcomm OS.
 
Looks like I need to go tomorrow to an Apple Store and quickly buy some iPhones.
Maybe I make some extra money in a few weeks on Ebay - :)

Seriously, I guess this is just a "planned" way from Apple to make some extra cash shortly before Christmas - scare the German people, they have enough money and it is Christmas time - very easy calculation ;)
 
How are they winning if Apple makes a minor change and they keep selling their phones? Qualcomm is stupid to not play nice with a company shipping 220M phones/yr with an ASP of $761.

They are just bitter Apple is in the process of shutting them out of the iPhone completely.
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Right, but this isn't even a victory. They gained nothing by doing this. They actually lost because they are just pissing off a potential customer.

QCOM needs Apple. Apple doesn't need them...at all pretty soon.
So we should bend to the greedy? Not really.
Costumers couldn't give less of a @ about this, in fact if most would they wouldn't side with a company which uses tactics to get the most profit over their costumers lack of understanding.
They gained Apple not using their patents without paying the fees, they also gained the possibility for people to recognize Apple is not as pink as most think and it's a greedy business model which focuses in harming competitors with their patents which they never use but when it comes to them, they refuse to play by the patent rules. There's no possible excuse for Apple about this.
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Looks like I need to go tomorrow to an Apple Store and quickly buy some iPhones.
Maybe I make some extra money in a few weeks on Ebay - :)

Seriously, I guess this is just a "planned" way from Apple to make some extra cash shortly before Christmas - scare the German people, they have enough money and it is Christmas time - very easy calculation ;)
Are you actually serious? It was a court's decision not Apple's LOL.
 
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Yo Angela is kinda wack. I met with Trump about a month or two ago and I can tell you, he let me in on some ****.
I mean, I get the Chinese ban on these iPhones but Germany? They're just hopping on the bandwagon here. Sad!
Apple needs to make their phones harder, better, faster, stronger. And the Merk needs to maybe consider not doing this or else their GDP gonna drop harder than my last album fr. :eek: word to your mother.
 
This is a software patent issue? Did Qualcomm acquire this patent or did they ever actually produce a phone OS where this patent applies? Kudos if they originated this one, just a patent troll if they didn't. Curious if this was granted across more regions because if it was, look for more attempts at injunction.
 
Yo Angela is kinda wack. I met with Trump about a month or two ago and I can tell you, he let me in on some ****.
I mean, I get the Chinese ban on these iPhones but Germany? They're just hopping on the bandwagon here. Sad!
Apple needs to make their phones harder, better, faster, stronger. And the Merk needs to maybe consider not doing this or else their GDP gonna drop harder than my last album fr. :eek: word to your mother.

Jibberish aside another idea is that qualcomm has merit in their lawsuit.
 
So we should bend to the greedy? Not really.
Costumers couldn't give less of a @ about this, in fact if most would they wouldn't side with a company which uses tactics to get the most profit over their costumers lack of understanding.
They gained Apple not using their patents without paying the fees, they also gained the possibility for people to recognize Apple is not as pink as most think and it's a greedy business model which focuses in harming competitors with their patents which they never use but when it comes to them, they refuse to play by the patent rules. There's no possible excuse for Apple about this.
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Are you actually serious? It was a court's decision not Apple's LOL.


Exactly. Most people do not blindly defend apple at all costs. Most, like me, use apple products because we like them. Not because we see apple as god-like.
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Ayo I'm Kanyay... what did you expect? Merkle on that bandwagon tho fr fr.
Bye Kanyay.
 
So we should bend to the greedy? Not really.
Costumers couldn't give less of a @ about this, in fact if most would they wouldn't side with a company which uses tactics to get the most profit over their costumers lack of understanding.
They gained Apple not using their patents without paying the fees, they also gained the possibility for people to recognize Apple is not as pink as most think and it's a greedy business model which focuses in harming competitors with their patents which they never use but when it comes to them, they refuse to play by the patent rules. There's no possible excuse for Apple about this.
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Are you actually serious? It was a court's decision not Apple's LOL.
I really don't think consumers are impacted. They can simply return it and Apple will replace. The article is vague about Apple's practical stance on customers trying to return it if the iPad is indeed bent.

People are speculating that there are millions of customers trying to return bent iPads and being refused. That's not happening.
 
I really don't think consumers are impacted. They can simply return it and Apple will replace. The article is vague about Apple's practical stance on customers trying to return it if the iPad is indeed bent.

People are speculating that there are millions of customers trying to return bent iPads and being refused. That's not happening.
Wrong thread buddy.
 
Right, but this isn't even a victory. They gained nothing by doing this. They actually lost because they are just pissing off a potential customer.

QCOM needs Apple. Apple doesn't need them...at all pretty soon.

No, it is a victory but is a Pyrrhic one (see the newer story about no longer selling iPhones 7 and 8 in Germany for now). By winning this battle, Qualcomm is losing the war to Apple. They don't need Apple but will have much lower revenue.
 
Hey Apple so you don't like paying Qualcomm extravagant fees? Maybe you should stop milking your own userbase, what goes around comes around.
I hear what you are saying, but if Apple have to pay more to Qualcomm you can be sure that the cost will filter down to the consumer.
 
No, it is a victory but is a Pyrrhic one (see the newer story about no longer selling iPhones 7 and 8 in Germany for now). By winning this battle, Qualcomm is losing the war to Apple. They don't need Apple but will have much lower revenue.
You may be right... or wrong. There's certainly enough of that on both sides of the topic. I suspect that the reality is that both companies are screwing the other and this is just a "let's see if mine is bigger than yours" test. Sadly, though, the only losers in this will be the consumers who end up paying inflated prices to reimburse both companies for this game of oneupmanship.

You lose as consumers if and only if you are buying Apple products -- you get Intel's sh**ty modem at inflated price. Others? not so much.
 
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Come on now... that last comment is a bit unfair.
Sure, you can point out that a couple courts sided with them. If you were fair you woukd also acknowledge that others did not. And more pertinent, you would acknowledge that in the US, the FTC doesn't think highly of Qualcomm's business practices... as referenced in this article.
Or are you gonna suggest that the FTC are just fanboys defending Apple so they don't count..?

The entire comment was provocative. I obviously don't know the details of the cases to make any real judgement.
 
I bet.



I don't know about your country, but our executive branch doesn't control judges.

Yes, American regulators / folks running the judicial system are very political -- which is one of the main reason why I believe QCOM isn't going to get fair trial in the US. QCOM needs to go all in in China and Germany to resolve their problem with Apple.
 
Yes, American regulators / folks running the judicial system

That's two very different things.

are very political -- which is one of the main reason why I believe QCOM isn't going to get fair trial in the US.

Given that both Apple and Qualcomm hail from the Silicon Valley, that doesn't even make sense.

(You may be thinking of the aborted Broadcom merger?)
 
I hear what you are saying, but if Apple have to pay more to Qualcomm you can be sure that the cost will filter down to the consumer.

True but also see it from Qualcomm's point of view, Qualcomm is seeing how Apple is bathing in gold, reaching 1 trillion status, all because of the 60% revenue from iPhones which use Qualcomm tech. Apple disgustingly milked the userbase for almost 6-7 years with 16gb iPhones making users spend more money on unfair storage upgrades. If Apple can be a fat pig, why can't Qualcomm?
 
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