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Well, I don't care about the ****ing iPhone but ILowry82 can you apply the same crazy ass logic and get me a free or near free garden shed or dehumidifier for my crawl space? one or the other will be fine. My truck needs tires too so I guess that's another idea I'll need. Thanks.

Can you get any of these from Sprint, Verizon, or T-Mobile? If so, I think the OP can help you out.
 
In the end, you want service from someone, right?

Why not skip all the BS, trade your iPhone 4 in at Verizon for a free 6, and then stay on Verizon for $48 a month?

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My plan:

Work. Pay cash. Enjoy iPhone.

My time is worth far more than the plan of the OP, but if you only make $20 an hour I can see desperately looking for loopholes.

The sad part is, if they'd put half as much effort into school/work they wouldn't have to. Such is true for most folks into loopholes.

So you are claiming to make $400-500 per hour?
 
Jesus christ, all this to get the latest bloody iPhone. What's so bad about being behind? I'll be going iPhone on my next upgrade and will likely only be able to afford a 4s on contract or 5 at the most. Do I care? Hell no! It will still be a great phone that will do everything I need it to do and do it fast.

This "loophole" is dishonest, a little bit pathetic and just outright despicable. I pity the OP.
 
This is so much work and is almost certain to backfire in some way with an unexpected element of the fine print that's being overlooked. So with that in mind, I say the OP should go for it so we can all have a good laugh when he's stuck with a huge bill at the end of it.

I recommend sticking with your current plan, and when you are eligible for an upgrade, switch to Sprint's financing plan that lets you upgrade every year. I assume they have one now to compete with Jump/Edge/Next. Or heck, call Sprint and ask if you can switch to that plan now and then do your upgrade in a month or two when you're eligible. It's got to be simpler than this mess.
 
I'll never understand how this loophole is worth the 2 hard credit checks. If you have a rewards credit card you could just buy it outright and earn some sweet points.
 
I'll never understand how this loophole is worth the 2 hard credit checks. If you have a rewards credit card you could just buy it outright and earn some sweet points.


there is only one credit check through Verizon when purchasing the subsidized iPhone 6 on contract. Tmobile doesn't require a credit check because they do not have contracts. I believe they will check your credit if you finance a phone through them, but in this scenario no one is doing that.
 
I did some more research and it seems we may not even need to buy an T-Mobile phone. It seems all they require is the final bill with ETF fee and matching phone numbers (after the port) with addresses. So we could buy SIM only if we have another phone to activate on their service.

As for the time required, it took me 1 hr to buy the Verizon iPhone 6 today--mostly cuz of a pushy salesman trying to get me to sign up for cases and whatnot--and now I just need to wait 2 weeks until I can sign up for T-Mobile. Total time will be between 2-4 hours I guess depending on customer support. So tell me, are you guys making 150 dollars an hour?

Classic. This coming from someone who self-righteously derides phone scalpers. Hypocrite much?
 
there is only one credit check through Verizon when purchasing the subsidized iPhone 6 on contract. Tmobile doesn't require a credit check because they do not have contracts. I believe they will check your credit if you finance a phone through them, but in this scenario no one is doing that.

If you don't do the credit check I believe you have to put the 1st months payment down.

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There is a difference between legality and ethics, which you obviously don't understand. You're no better than the scalpers you hate so much.

please explain
 
If you don't do the credit check I believe you have to put the 1st months payment down.

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please explain

With no credit check you don't qualify for ETF reimbursement. Any post paid service has a credit check. Try again kids.
 
With no credit check you don't qualify for ETF reimbursement. Any post paid service has a credit check. Try again kids.

I got a good credit score; I was able to open a post-paid account on Verizon with no problems.
 
How can you still justify the 2 credit checks rather than just being a normal person and flip a phone and stay with your current carrier? Still doesn't make any sense dude.
 
How can you still justify the 2 credit checks rather than just being a normal person and flip a phone and stay with your current carrier? Still doesn't make any sense dude.

No point in having good credit if you don't take advantage of it.
 
If you don't do the credit check I believe you have to put the 1st months payment down.

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please explain

Well there's nothing illegal about iPhone scalping (really reselling). Once you buy a device you have the right to do with it as you please. The real push back is the ethics of it driving up prices.
 
Well there's nothing illegal about iPhone scalping (really reselling). Once you buy a device you have the right to do with it as you please. The real push back is the ethics of it driving up prices.

you have to pay taxes in the sale which most people don't do.

there are always other stuff I don't like about the scalpers such as cutting in line or littering all over the place.
 
Slightly off topic, but since credit checks came up, Does AT&T do one when you start with a regular 10 device family share plan and then switch to NEXT and buy a new iPhone 6+?
 
Slightly off topic, but since credit checks came up, Does AT&T do one when you start with a regular 10 device family share plan and then switch to NEXT and buy a new iPhone 6+?

They do a credit check when you initially sign up for the account not when you upgrade the devices.
 
No point in having good credit if you don't take advantage of it.

Exactly. So why not use a legit credit card and earn rewards points than be ghetto and use carrier hopping as credit? Make your money work for you.

Oh and T-Mobile etf requires purchase of a device. At least spread correct information man
 
Exactly. So why not use a legit credit card and earn rewards points than be ghetto and use carrier hopping as credit? Make your money work for you.
I called my CC co. a few days ago but they refused to lower my interest rate :mad:

Oh and T-Mobile etf requires purchase of a device. At least spread correct information man
Thanks, I'll charge the device onto my CC.
 
They do a credit check when you initially sign up for the account not when you upgrade the devices.

Thx. I just got my bank to upgrade one of my accounts last week from $5K at 15% to $10K at 11% with rewards, and I don't want another credit check for a while since I just bought a new car in August as well.

After doing the math I think that AT&T NEXT may not be best for us. My AT&T store was recommending that I go back to the Apple Store before it's too late Friday, and see if they will refund and then re-ring up our iPhone 6 and 6+ on the NEXT plan, since my son and I like to upgrade every year.

Because we have 5 phones upgraded at different times, we get 3 upgrades one year and 2 the next year, then it repeats with 3 the next year and 2 the year after that, etc. However, my wife and daughters only like to upgrade every 2-3 years, or they take our 1-yr old phones when we're done with them. They don't care.

So, usually my son and I will use 2 of our upgrades every year, and when we pass down last year's phone we sell the oldest deactivated phones to help pay for the new ones. That helps defray the upgrade cost, and nobody has a phone older than 2 years.

The Math:

Right now we have 5 phones and 5 iPads & pay $160 for 15GB, $30 x 5 phones, $10 x 5 iPads = $360/mo not counting the cost of the phones that we buy outright (we spend about $2600 over a 2 year period after Applecare and taxes on 5 phones, which would amortize out to $108/mo if we didn't pay them off, or $41/mo for just 2 phones).

With our 2 iPhone 6's on NEXT we'd pay $130 for 30GB, $15 x 2 NEXT phones, $40 x 3 old phones, $10 x 5 iPads, and $42.50 x 2 for the new iPhone's cost = $415 total including the cost of the phones. But with all 5 of us on the NEXT Plan we'd be paying $467.50/mo to AT&T, which is almost the same cost over a 2 year period with us paying for our phones outright on our current plan.

Except that with NEXT, after we add in the additional $700 cost of taxes and Applecare+ for all 5 phones, the NEXT plan actually costs us more over a 2 year period; although everyone would have a 1 year old phone instead of some of us going for 2 years, and we'd get 30GB when we only need 10-15GB.

I understand that with NEXT we can choose to not upgrade after just one year, and the monthly charge stays at $15 when the phone is paid off in 20 months, and we then own the phone and don't have to trade it in.

Decisions, decisions...
 
I called my CC co. a few days ago but they refused to lower my interest rate :mad:


Thanks, I'll charge the device onto my CC.

Lol it just makes me laugh how you're willing to put in 5 times the effort and eff your credit up for a phone. I think we've all beat the subject down enough. Let's close the thread.
 
Is this stealing, no but it is dishonest and just plain wrong. I feel bad that the OP doesn't realize how wrong it is to do this sort of thing.

How is it dishonest? Who are you to moralise about the actions of others?

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Lol you're missing the point. You're contributing to others wasting rep's time and takings money from them. That's like saying that's up to a cop if they take a dangerous job and then not feeling bad about going on a joy ride, causing them to die trying to chase you down.

You're kind of a douche in my opinion man.

Yep, that's a great analogy.

The OP trying to save a few hundred dollars without breaking any laws by working within the system created by the corporations for their own benefit is EXACTLY like the US crime of felony murder of a police officer.

*slow clap*
 
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