iPhone 15 Pro Get real folks, each and every (new) iPhone is an amazing device

[cyberone]

Kind of hilarious, some of the complaints in here. Oh and the scratch and drop and destroy iPhone YouTubers... insane.

Imagine the logistics in designing and producing such mobile devices in the millions.

Imagine the logistics to have those shiny new phones ready as promised on launch day.

Of course, some malfunctions are in the nature of things and not the end of the world. That's why there's warranty.

But overall: some folks get real, see what you got, see what's behind creating such amazing technology and make it easy to use.

But guess some take everything for granted.

 

[MajorFubar]

Tbf all modern technology is pretty amazing. Gen Z's and millienialls have had it most their lives and now take it for granted. The emerging Gen Alphas have never known any different and it's their idea of normal. Gen X's like me are still astonished we now only need a pocket-sized device to do nearly everything we once needed a PC or Mac for. While boomers are still amazed by the internet. It's all about perspective.

 

[eyoungren]

Tbf all modern technology is pretty amazing. Gen X's like me are still astonished we now only need a pocket-sized device to do nearly everything we once needed a PC or Mac for. It's all about perspective.

This Gen-X'er (born 1970) is not astonished. Since my first computer (TRS-80) in 1980, everything has advanced at every update. My parents were/are Silent Generation (the generation before Baby Boomers) and they had a cellphone in 1995, before I even cared about any of that.

For me, my primary device though is a Mac or PC. The phone is still just a phone and aside from texting, light email, calls and some web browsing when out that's all my phone gets used for.

My son is Gen-Z and he got an iBook G3 when he was 5. His primary use of things is also a Mac or PC. My daughter, also Gen-Z, uses her phone as her main device - but that's just because she's killed two PCs and I'm not giving her a chance to kill a third right now.

I think, if we are to make these assessments, there has to be some sort of consideration for which generation raised you. My dad worked in aerospace as an electrical engineer and my mom taught computer science. There were always computers in the house.

 

[eyoungren]

Kind of hilarious, some of the complaints in here. Oh and the scratch and drop and destroy iPhone YouTubers... insane.

Imagine the logistics in designing and producing such mobile devices in the millions.

Imagine the logistics to have those shiny new phones ready as promised on launch day.

Of course, some malfunctions are in the nature of things and not the end of the world. That's why there's warranty.

But overall: some folks get real, see what you got, see what's behind creating such amazing technology and make it easy to use.

But guess some take everything for granted.

The iPhone 16 will arrive next year and the 15 will be last years news. Just like the 14 is now.

Same every year, back to the original iPhone.

 

[chrise2]

I think at this point in the maturity of technology, releasing new models every year isn't needed. Apple could focus all resources on the next thing instead of having some people working on the iPhone 15, others on iPhone 16 and probably some people drawing out the iPhone 17 on a napkin in a diner somewhere concurrently. But if there wasn't a new phone every year, Wall Street would say Apple stock is garbage and the stock will tank.

 

[eyoungren]

I think at this point in the maturity of technology, releasing new models every year isn't needed. Apple could focus all resources on the next thing instead of having some people working on the iPhone 15, others on iPhone 16 and probably some people drawing out the iPhone 17 on a napkin in a diner somewhere concurrently. But if there wasn't a new phone every year, Wall Street would say Apple stock is garbage and the stock will tank.

There is a reason that Apple is pushing it's services more than its hardware now. I think in time, hardware will simply become like furniture or appliances. You get it when you need it, it's got standard features and you pay extra for more features. The money is in the services companies sell for the hardware. So the services will be the draw and we'll all be looking for the next upgrade on those.

 

[Ryan1524]

As someone with engineering background, I’ve tried to build and ship devices myself. Every generation of iPhones never ceases to amaze me.

This one in particular is impressive. From the housing’s construction, camera, and 3nm chip. Not to mention they managed to listen to the public and made design changes to make things more repairable.

Let’s enjoy this

 

[eyoungren]

Not to mention they managed to listen to the public and made design changes to make things more repairable.

They have, but Apple doesn't bother to mention that if you are replacing components (screen, battery, etc) that you have to pair the part(s) with the device.

So, 'more repairable' yes. You want to avoid the popups about being unable to confirm that a replaced part is a genuine Apple part, you've got to talk to Apple. It's driving third party repair shops out of the business.

 

[MarkNewton2023]

Kind of hilarious, some of the complaints in here. Oh and the scratch and drop and destroy iPhone YouTubers... insane.

Imagine the logistics in designing and producing such mobile devices in the millions.

Imagine the logistics to have those shiny new phones ready as promised on launch day.

Of course, some malfunctions are in the nature of things and not the end of the world. That's why there's warranty.

But overall: some folks get real, see what you got, see what's behind creating such amazing technology and make it easy to use.

But guess some take everything for granted.

Yup. Every new iPhone release is better than previous generation due to new added functionalities/features which is put every new release a step ahead, major or minor/incremental. Hence, I have no hesitation to upgrade my iPhone pro max or whenever a new pro max is released.

 

[shadow82x]

Devils advocate here.

I drink the apple koolaid and I have nearly every Apple product - iPad Pro, MacBook Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, HomePod, AirPod Pros, and a Studio Display. The amount of issues I've had across these products have been minimal, along with my return rate. But I do think the iPhone 15 Pro has quality issues that need to be called out, so they're addressed in the manufacturing line. No premium phone costing $1200 should have discolored titanium blotches like mine did. Nor should an iPhone ever shut down in normal usage because of heat. These are real issues that need to be addressed. Granted these are only a fraction of all devices, but for a $1200 phone, it's important that the feedback is raised and acknowledged. As a product manager myself, I know how important user feedback is, so products are made better in the future.

That said, I think some of the complaints here are a bit ridiculous. Not everyone posting has a valid issue, but that's another topic.

 

[neuropsychguy]

I think at this point in the maturity of technology, releasing new models every year isn't needed.

It might not be needed unless someone needs a new phone. People don't need to buy a new phone every year but updating every year allows people who are coming from older devices to catch up with the technology. A push for a new phone each year also gives companies incentives for continuing to push technology forward.

 

[Sami13496]

Kind of hilarious, some of the complaints in here. Oh and the scratch and drop and destroy iPhone YouTubers... insane.

Imagine the logistics in designing and producing such mobile devices in the millions.

Imagine the logistics to have those shiny new phones ready as promised on launch day.

Of course, some malfunctions are in the nature of things and not the end of the world. That's why there's warranty.

But overall: some folks get real, see what you got, see what's behind creating such amazing technology and make it easy to use.

But guess some take everything for granted.

So we consumers should just accept flaws despite paying full price top money for premium device? No. For that money we should demand perfection and nothing less. I coulnd’t care less about how ”amazing” their business and operations processes are. I want my money’s worth. With their profit margins especially. Zero tolerance for flaws. It’s for Apple apoligists I say: get real! You are the consumer. Without you there wouldn’t be any Apple.

 

[Ryan1524]

They have, but Apple doesn't bother to mention that if you are replacing components (screen, battery, etc) that you have to pair the part(s) with the device.

So, 'more repairable' yes. You want to avoid the popups about being unable to confirm that a replaced part is a genuine Apple part, you've got to talk to Apple. It's driving third party repair shops out of the business.

From a logistics and integrations PoV, I’m sure there’s a reason why it’s better/convenient (for Apple) to pair and track parts on each device. Calibration’s a pain. Security is another concern.

They probably didn’t expect to open this up so soon, so the processes to track all these pairings are still there. We’ll see if they’ll loosen these. It’s probably do-able, but will require even more engineering.

On the other hand, if this helps enforce repair quality, is it really such a bad thing? Assuming they improve the 3rd party repair program, that is.

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

Kind of hilarious, some of the complaints in here. Oh and the scratch and drop and destroy iPhone YouTubers... insane.

Imagine the logistics in designing and producing such mobile devices in the millions.

Imagine the logistics to have those shiny new phones ready as promised on launch day.

Of course, some malfunctions are in the nature of things and not the end of the world. That's why there's warranty.

But overall: some folks get real, see what you got, see what's behind creating such amazing technology and make it easy to use.

But guess some take everything for granted.

I get your sentiment.

But you can easily argue the opposite when you consider how the core functionally, aesthetics and experience of using an iPhone actually hasn't changed a lot since the first few iPhones.

Yes, specs, UI, usability, cameras, etc., are massively upgraded. But at its core, iPhone 15 is nothing more than a very advanced iteration of the 2007 iPhone.

Apple Vision Pro, on the contrary, is genuinely impressive, attempting to make AR/VR something that might replace traditional computing, maybe one day replacing both computers and portable devices.

But just as nobody drops their jaw whenever they see a car drive by or an airplane in the sky, humans are innately programmed to get tired of what's familiar and seek what's new and unexplored.

All smartphones, including iPhone, are way beyond familiar on every thinkable parameter and therefore boring. All we get every year is just more and more refinement. Nothing bad, but also nothing genuinely daring and new.

I'd be much more worried if the average consumer was still as excited about iPhones as we were back in the late 00s to early 10s.

Smartphones are old news, even the brand new ones. Something different has to enter the market.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

For that money we should demand perfection and nothing less.Zero tolerance for flaws.

good luck getting this from any company at any pricepoint.

“Perfection” isn’t really a thing, especially when it comes to mass produced technology and gadgets.
Doesn’t matter if they’re a dollar or $1 million, software is still software, and software is naturally buggy.
Likewise hardware is still hardware, and has its limitations and flaws, no matter how much money is being thrown at it, or who’s producing it.

 

[Love-hate 🍏 relationship]

But guess some take everything for granted.

yeah, when you pay over fifteen hundreds there are a few things you'd take for "granted" . perfection isnt of this world, but you sure as hell expect a lot and amazing QC when you rack so many bucks

just wanna point out : i care not for the scratches or break, I use a case and don't care about scratching at all. internal structure seems to be quite problematic though

 

[LevorgPenmancho]

If they just spec bumped the SE every few years I’d be happy. For me, most new features and iterations have been negligible or just nice-to-haves. But those nice-to-haves are a bit pointless to me if they result in greater power consumption.

 

[JamesMay82]

This Gen-X'er (born 1970) is not astonished. Since my first computer (TRS-80) in 1980, everything has advanced at every update. My parents were/are Silent Generation (the generation before Baby Boomers) and they had a cellphone in 1995, before I even cared about any of that.

For me, my primary device though is a Mac or PC. The phone is still just a phone and aside from texting, light email, calls and same web browsing when out that's all my phone gets used for.

My son is Gen-Z and he got an iBook G3 when he was 5. His primary use of things is also a Mac or PC. My daughter, also Gen-Z, uses her phone as her main device - but that's just because she's killed two PCs and I'm not giving her a chance to kill a third right now.

I think, if we are to make these assessments, there has to be some sort of consideration for which generation raised you. My dad worked in aerospace as an electrical engineer and my mom taught computer science. There were always computers in the house.

This post got me thinking about the debate of the work life balance. I think the smart phone has ruined it. Perhaps a phone should just become a phone again. We can then do our work on actual computers and not be disturbed at every minute of the day

 

[ade555]

Great phones I will admit it, but like others have said when you paying that kind of money you expect quality. I still think over £1000 for new phone is bit much, soon price will have 2 on front of it. Yes you don’t need to buy the latest and greatest but we all like things in life. Mobile phones come a long way and every new device have very little improvement from my point of view what I use the phone for. I can understand others have different opinion on this so I always look at what works for me. Still great phones and will buy a newer model when need arises 👍

 

[eyoungren]

This post got me thinking about the debate of the work life balance. I think the smart phone has ruined it. Perhaps a phone should just become a phone again. We can then do our work on actual computers and not be disturbed at every minute of the day

I was a latchkey kid. My dad worked 30 minutes away, my mom was a teacher and had to stay at school. I had a bike, home was a 10 minute bike ride from school, so I got a key when I was 11. I got a car when I was 16.

My point in bringing that up is that I can pretty much tune anything out. I have always used the television less for entertainment and more for background noise. As a teen in the 80s, the home phone was a tool. An answering machine was great. Now you get both in a cellphone. Just because someone disconnected the wire at some point, it hasn't caused me to see my phone as anything other than a phone. Sure it can do other things, but it's primary function is to make and receive phone calls. You can ask my wife, she's Gen-X too and racks up the most minutes in phone calls every month.

But I can ignore the phone, just like I could ignore the TV or the landline phone - it goes to voicemail. Emails and texts don't autodelete, so those can wait until I'm ready for them. If I'm busy I can ignore the whole dang thing - and my mute switch is rarely off.

Make your own work/life balance. Tune out what isn't necessary or important at that moment and get back to it later. And don't let anyone else control how you balance it. There is a time and place for everything.

 

[TechnoMonk]

I think at this point in the maturity of technology, releasing new models every year isn't needed. Apple could focus all resources on the next thing instead of having some people working on the iPhone 15, others on iPhone 16 and probably some people drawing out the iPhone 17 on a napkin in a diner somewhere concurrently. But if there wasn't a new phone every year, Wall Street would say Apple stock is garbage and the stock will tank.

I upgrade every 6 years, but I want Apple to release newer one every year, even if it is incremental. All those incremental updates add up.

 

[BB8]

people looking for something to get mad about every year

the durability/heat gate stuff seems extremely overblown. the only thing that seems genuinely bad are those finewoven cases.

 

[sdwaltz]

Of course they are. Best phones on the planet. I would never not recommend the newest phone to a person looking to purchase a new one.

That said, the new one isn't near enough to get me to let go of my 14PM. And that's ok.

 

[Joniz]

Imagine the logistics…

Imagine the amount of money they have, then the logistics aren’t really that impressive.

 

[Fozzybadfeet]

I was humored by the amount of dislike posts that popped up the moment people started receiving their phones lol.

Y'all drank the kool-aid like the rest of us. Take a deep breath.