getting an imac5k

cameron dunn

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I am going with 5k iMac I had macs in the past.
bellow this will be my set up

  • 4.0GHz quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 4.2GHz
  • 32GB 1867MHz DDR3 SDRAM - four 8GB
  • 2TB Fusion Drive
  • AMD Radeon R9 M395X with 4GB video memory
  • Magic Mouse 2
  • Magic Keyboard (English) & User’s Guide
  • Accessory Kit

my current iMac i had since 2012

2.5 GHz Intel Core i5
4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6750M 512 MB
500gb hd

now since i am getting the 32gb will it makes things such as apps smoother and all, I do photoshop, and gaming, i know mac not a gaming machine, but with the higher ram and video card will I notice good fps?

What are some of the frame rates everyone getting with the new 5k iMac?

Sorry my spelling, and grammar isn't that great I have learning disability.
 

shftoptk

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What games are you trying to play? It sounds a bit overkill in my opinion, if all you are doing is using photoshop and playing games
 
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cameron dunn

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What games are you trying to play? It sounds a bit overkill in my opinion, if all you are doing is using photoshop and playing games

wow call of duty bioshock and others i think
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I would suggest building your mac with 8GB of RAM and upgrading using 3rd party RAM. Its cheaper.

I wanna upgrade the ram myself what site you suggest, but i don't wanna void the warranty
[doublepost=1456546908][/doublepost]thanks everyone for the replies
 

imacken

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What games are you trying to play? It sounds a bit overkill in my opinion, if all you are doing is using photoshop and playing games
Are you serious? 'Playing games' is the most demanding task the Mac will do in everyday use! There is no such thing as 'overkill' when it comes to games!
 

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I'd recommend an SSD especially since if your game playing will be in the windows platform. Boot camp will be installed on the spinning hard drive which will impact performance. I also think installing the memory yourself will be cheaper and not impact your warranty.
 

cameron dunn

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I'd recommend an SSD especially since if your game playing will be in the windows platform. Boot camp will be installed on the spinning hard drive which will impact performance. I also think installing the memory yourself will be cheaper and not impact your warranty.
thanks yes with the 2tb fusion drive and 1 tb external i think it be great
[doublepost=1456576406][/doublepost]what is a 2tb fusion drive I'm still new to the term
 

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what is a 2tb fusion drive I'm still new to the term
A 2TB Fusion Drive is physically a 2TB spinning hard drive as well as a 128GB SSD (very fast flash memory). This two drives are then 'fused' via software to act as one drive. The operating system (OS X) will then decide which data to place on the slower HDD and which to put on the much faster SSD, to give the feeling of a very fast and responsive system. And in my experience it works very well. However, when you install Windows via Boot Camp it only installs on the HDD part of the Fusion Drive, meaning the speed benefit you will get in OS X will not be present in Windows. The easiest way of getting around this is to buy a machine purely with SSD. That way you can have both OS X and Windows on the fast SSD.
 

shftoptk

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Are you serious? 'Playing games' is the most demanding task the Mac will do in everyday use! There is no such thing as 'overkill' when it comes to games!



wow call of duty bioshock and others i think
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You can get away with an average iMac model, but run windows on it. You don't need 32 gigs of ram, you don't need an i7, and you don't need the gpu. But if you want all of that stuff, I am not going to stop you. But it is a waste of money. What you need is 8 gigs of ram, an i5, an ssd or hdd (no fusion), AMD Radeon R9 M380 graphics processor with 2GB of memory.

Just please remember to dual boot Windows on there, games will run 100% better and you will be much much happier. OSX is not designed for games, thus why no modern games are built for osx
 

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what is a 2tb fusion drive I'm still new to the term
This is apple's term that they coined to basically describe a logically joined hard drive and flash storage. What makes this work so well is the OS determines what files are being accessed frequently and it moves those files to the SSD. So you get the speed of the flash storage of items that you work on, and the inexpensive storage option of a spinning hard drive.

To the user, we only see a single drive (default name Macintosh Drive), not two.
 

cameron dunn

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You can get away with an average iMac model, but run windows on it. You don't need 32 gigs of ram, you don't need an i7, and you don't need the gpu. But if you want all of that stuff, I am not going to stop you. But it is a waste of money. What you need is 8 gigs of ram, an i5, an ssd or hdd (no fusion), AMD Radeon R9 M380 graphics processor with 2GB of memory.

Just please remember to dual boot Windows on there, games will run 100% better and you will be much much happier. OSX is not designed for games, thus why no modern games are built for osx

thanks for the help
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This is apple's term that they coined to basically describe a logically joined hard drive and flash storage. What makes this work so well is the OS determines what files are being accessed frequently and it moves those files to the SSD. So you get the speed of the flash storage of items that you work on, and the inexpensive storage option of a spinning hard drive.

To the user, we only see a single drive (default name Macintosh Drive), not two.
thanks for the help
[doublepost=1456756485][/doublepost]also what would you suggest bootcamp? and not done it before, how easy will it be?
 

imacken

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thanks for the help
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thanks for the help
[doublepost=1456756485][/doublepost]also what would you suggest bootcamp? and not done it before, how easy will it be?
If you want my advice, ignore the advice from shftoptk. I think he is trolling. The i7 and M2395X make a big difference in gaming performance. Look at this link http://barefeats.com/imac5k15.html and you will see the performance of the 395X compared to the 380 in games.
As for Bootcamp, definitely not necessary. The only time I use Bootcamp is when there is no Mac version of a game planned, e.g. Witcher 3 or Fallout 4.
There are loads of games for OS X, just look on Steam. Some games I have played over the last year or two on OS X are:
XCOM 2
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Shadow of Mordor
Talos Principle
Layers of Fear
Tomb Raider 2013
Thief 2014
GRID: Autosport
Call of Duty series (some)
Max Payne 3
Elite Dangerous
Hitman Absolution
SOMA
Walking Dead
Bioshock Infinite
F1 2013
Dirt 3
Company of Heroes 2
Spec Ops: The Line
Borderlands 2
Left 4 Dead 2
Empire: Total War
GRID 2
XCOM Enemy Unknown
Metro 2033 and Last Light Redux.
As for running'100% better' in Windows than OS X, well, it's simply not true. Yes, there is a performance improvement in Bootcamp, but, in my opinion, not so great that it merits booting in and out of Windows and out of the environment that you have paid for, i.e. OS X.
Your original suggested spec is almost the same as what I have, and I can assure you that I am very happy with it and all the games I play on OS X!
 
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cameron dunn

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If you want my advice, ignore the advice from shftoptk. I think he is trolling. The i7 and M2395X make a big difference in gaming performance. Look at this link http://barefeats.com/imac5k15.html and you will see the performance of the 395X compared to the 380 in games.
As for Bootcamp, definitely not necessary. The only time I use Bootcamp is when there is no Mac version of a game planned, e.g. Witcher 3 or Fallout 4.
There are loads of games for OS X, just look on Steam. Some games I have played over the last year or two on OS X are:
XCOM 2
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Shadow of Mordor
Talos Principle
Layers of Fear
Tomb Raider 2013
Thief 2014
GRID: Autosport
Call of Duty series (some)
Max Payne 3
Elite Dangerous
Hitman Absolution
SOMA
Walking Dead
Bioshock Infinite
F1 2013
Dirt 3
Company of Heroes 2
Spec Ops: The Line
Borderlands 2
Left 4 Dead 2
Empire: Total War
GRID 2
XCOM Enemy Unknown
Metro 2033 and Last Light Redux.
As for running'100% better' in Windows than OS X, well, it's simply not true. Yes, there is a performance improvement in Bootcamp, but, in my opinion, not so great that it merits booting in and out of Windows and out of the environment that you have paid for, i.e. OS X.
Your original suggested spec is almost the same as what I have, and I can assure you that I am very happy with it and all the games I play on OS X!
great games and i m not comfortable with bootcamp anyways cuz i go to apple for a reason not to have windows loaded on a mac
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If you want my advice, ignore the advice from shftoptk. I think he is trolling. The i7 and M2395X make a big difference in gaming performance. Look at this link http://barefeats.com/imac5k15.html and you will see the performance of the 395X compared to the 380 in games.
As for Bootcamp, definitely not necessary. The only time I use Bootcamp is when there is no Mac version of a game planned, e.g. Witcher 3 or Fallout 4.
There are loads of games for OS X, just look on Steam. Some games I have played over the last year or two on OS X are:
XCOM 2
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Shadow of Mordor
Talos Principle
Layers of Fear
Tomb Raider 2013
Thief 2014
GRID: Autosport
Call of Duty series (some)
Max Payne 3
Elite Dangerous
Hitman Absolution
SOMA
Walking Dead
Bioshock Infinite
F1 2013
Dirt 3
Company of Heroes 2
Spec Ops: The Line
Borderlands 2
Left 4 Dead 2
Empire: Total War
GRID 2
XCOM Enemy Unknown
Metro 2033 and Last Light Redux.
As for running'100% better' in Windows than OS X, well, it's simply not true. Yes, there is a performance improvement in Bootcamp, but, in my opinion, not so great that it merits booting in and out of Windows and out of the environment that you have paid for, i.e. OS X.
Your original suggested spec is almost the same as what I have, and I can assure you that I am very happy with it and all the games I play on OS X!
i also play this game call second life which is like wow mainly play second life
[doublepost=1456759995][/doublepost]also why did they give up on nvidia i keep wondering
 

cameron dunn

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They swap between AMD and NVIDIA GPU's depending on what is available and provides the best performance/power/heat efficiency at the time of release. The next iMac could well have an NVIDIA GPU.
that is neat, i always wonder why they changed from nvidia to amd
 
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