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Well... I guess it is better than having no backup at all and risk losing everything.

That said, the ideal thing would be to set aside your current backup and make a new one on a second disk. This way you avoid having the corrupted data on the disk replicated onto the backup set, then restored to the new disk.

If he is using time machine and it is corrupted he can always just use an earlier one.


Barney
 
If he is using time machine and it is corrupted he can always just use an earlier one.


Barney

But you would not necessarily find the corruption until days or even months later and your backups might have been purged off by then. The safest route is to stop backing up from the bad disk onto your backup set so you don't make things worse.
 
Well... I guess it is better than having no backup at all and risk losing everything.

That said, the ideal thing would be to set aside your current backup and make a new one on a second disk. This way you avoid having the corrupted data on the disk replicated onto the backup set, then restored to the new disk.

That is a good thought.

Also lemme ask, how HDD failure effects Internet browsing? as since yesterday when all this started happening , webpages take a long while to load even though speed test shows full speed. Also when I access network drives even they are responding slow for writing and reading both.

Like for example just a right click to open a thread at this forum takes a while to even recognize that I want to right click and then populate options.
 
That is a good thought.

Also lemme ask, how HDD failure effects Internet browsing? as since yesterday when all this started happening , webpages take a long while to load even though speed test shows full speed. Also when I access network drives even they are responding slow for writing and reading both.

Like for example just a right click to open a thread at this forum takes a while to even recognize that I want to right click and then populate options.

It can certainly slow everything down. When you are browsing your web browser caches the pages you visit, so if the drive is having trouble writing that cache to disk... you are gonna have a bad time. :(

Lots of things you do on OS X are cached and written to disk... many apps have their own disk cache also.
 
Newbie question and sorry if I'm hijacking the thread but is it wise to backup a computer that is obviously having problems?

No.

It is wise to backup a computer before it has problems. ;)

It is desperate if you are having to backup a computer that is having issues that may be a failing disk. However usually a backup will only complete if the HDD data is valid and readable but there is a risk you can backup some corrupt data.

If you have a sequence of backups as with Time Machine over a period, you can always go back to an older version of the data if any data or App has issues. If you are only taking the backup because the HDD is showing symptoms then you risk it being too late.

If the backup is taking longer than normal then it is possible the HDD is having to retry reading data from the disk.
 
If I have to do fresh install of Mavericks? How can I do that and what will I lose? As my back up is taking way too long with Time Machine, so I have manually backed up some stuff like music, pics and documents. Only thing left is apps and their data I guess. But I can restore apps or back them up manually?
 
If I have to do fresh install of Mavericks? How can I do that and what will I lose? As my back up is taking way too long with Time Machine, so I have manually backed up some stuff like music, pics and documents. Only thing left is apps and their data I guess. But I can restore apps or back them up manually?

Right now use this utility from Apple with a 1GB or larger USB key to make a recovery key. After you make it, test it with an option key boot to the USB drive to make sure it will work.

Then when you get the new drive in the just option key boot to the USB key and use Disk Util to erase the new drive to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Then quite Disk Util and click reinstall OS X at the top. That will DL Mavs 10.9.3 and install it on your system.

After the install run through the setup and recreate your user account. Then manually drag your data back in. Some app can be dragged in like this also, but others that have installer routines like the iLife/iWork apps and anything from MS or Adobe for example will need to completely reinstalled.

App Store apps can just be redownloaded from the App Store.

You will lose any data of course that is not backed up and all your system settings will be back to defaults. Do you use iCloud for contacts and calendar? If so you can just turn that back on and have that data.
 
Right now use this utility from Apple with a 1GB or larger USB key to make a recovery key. After you make it, test it with an option key boot to the USB drive to make sure it will work.

Then when you get the new drive in the just option key boot to the USB key and use Disk Util to erase the new drive to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Then quite Disk Util and click reinstall OS X at the top. That will DL Mavs 10.9.3 and install it on your system.

After the install run through the setup and recreate your user account. Then manually drag your data back in. Some app can be dragged in like this also, but others that have installer routines like the iLife/iWork apps and anything from MS or Adobe for example will need to completely reinstalled.

App Store apps can just be redownloaded from the App Store.

You will lose any data of course that is not backed up and all your system settings will be back to defaults. Do you use iCloud for contacts and calendar? If so you can just turn that back on and have that data.

Thanks once again. Will try initially fresh install to make sure I don`t get anything thats problematic. Then will see how I might be missing some things.

Is it possible that I get a fresh install and then use my back up to fill in some gaps? is that too much of ask?
 
Thanks once again. Will try initially fresh install to make sure I don`t get anything thats problematic. Then will see how I might be missing some things.

Is it possible that I get a fresh install and then use my back up to fill in some gaps? is that too much of ask?

You can manually move some things in from your backup, but let me warn you off of one thing. Don't install and make your account, then try to use Migration Assistant afterwards to import things into that account. You will get duplicates and a huge mess. If you are going to try using the migration tool, do it at the end of the install and let it import your account and data for you. Of course, this is then not truly a "clean" install.
 
You can manually move some things in from your backup, but let me warn you off of one thing. Don't install and make your account, then try to use Migration Assistant afterwards to import things into that account. You will get duplicates and a huge mess. If you are going to try using the migration tool, do it at the end of the install and let it import your account and data for you. Of course, this is then not truly a "clean" install.

It sounds like you could have a hard drive that is failing. Do you have a good backup with Time Machine or other backup software?

Hi,

you might use Disk Utility to check/repair the disk, repair the permissions, then boot in safe mode, etc...

I suggest a "all in one" solution : download and run "Maintenance" (this is a light version of "Onyx").

Any warning message from Maintenance ? Let us know.

Then see how the Mac behaves and let us know.

http://www.titanium.free.fr/downloadmaintenance.php

Almost guarantee it's the hard drive, I had the same issue, put an SSD in since Apple kept telling me it wasn't the hard drive causing the issue, and as soon as the SSD went in it all issues were gone. I had tried everything before buying an SSD, which I reccommend you do!

Okay Guys, this HDD replacing idea flopped badly. I got new Samsung 840 EVO, today I replaced old HDD with that SSD. And I did a fresh install of OSX instead of restoring from backup to make sure I don`t get any corruption.
But problem still persists same as before. Nothing changed. Infact getting new OSX installed and then getting back to this forum and sharing this took a big chunk of my day. So that tells you how slow things are. Spinning beach ball for every little thing.

I m so bummed. I use this laptop for school work etc so it took me a lot of effort to just finish stuff for today but things are pilling up and I need to resolve this problem soon. If I had money I might get a new laptop but not possible. So have to repair this somehow.

I need to find out what is it thats causing this, because i don`t think now that it was Hard drive. What you guys suggest?
 
Okay Guys, this HDD replacing idea flopped badly. I got new Samsung 840 EVO, today I replaced old HDD with that SSD. And I did a fresh install of OSX instead of restoring from backup to make sure I don`t get any corruption.
But problem still persists same as before. Nothing changed. Infact getting new OSX installed and then getting back to this forum and sharing this took a big chunk of my day. So that tells you how slow things are. Spinning beach ball for every little thing.

I m so bummed. I use this laptop for school work etc so it took me a lot of effort to just finish stuff for today but things are pilling up and I need to resolve this problem soon. If I had money I might get a new laptop but not possible. So have to repair this somehow.

I need to find out what is it thats causing this, because i don`t think now that it was Hard drive. What you guys suggest?
Then it's the SATA cable if the SSD didn't help. You may need to get it checked by the Apple Store if you have one or any other authorised repair centre.
 
Perhaps stick the SSD in an external drive case, see if the computer runs OK from that, to check whether the internal SATA cable is involved in the problems. External USB3 cases are incredibly cheap these days.

Then if it works, replace the SATA cable.

If the computer then works properly with the SSD back inside, you have a spare external case you can put the computer's old disk into.

Cheers.
 
Perhaps stick the SSD in an external drive case, see if the computer runs OK from that, to check whether the internal SATA cable is involved in the problems. External USB3 cases are incredibly cheap these days.

Then if it works, replace the SATA cable.

If the computer then works properly with the SSD back inside, you have a spare external case you can put the computer's old disk into.

Cheers.

Only problem is time. If I order enclosure would get in 2-3 days at least, then if need cable that would take another 2-3 days. So I am looking at a week or more in total time if needed to replace cable. But what I was wondering was if straightway going to get a new cable and see if that improves? Where I can buy this cable? And what is it called to get the right cable?

but then I thought of a idea, that I can run down to local best buy and get enclosure from them today and test it out today itself. if that corrects the things then can easily get cable in next 2-3 days. Would this enclosure work fine - > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dynex-2...lack/5190553.p?id=1218623897772&skuId=5190553
Its on expensive side but i can get it today and won`t have to wait for shipping. Also if I don`t need it can return as easily.
What u think?

Also if I were to take laptop to local Apple store, how long they take to diagnose the problem and do they charge to find out whats wrong?
 
but then I thought of a idea, that I can run down to local best buy and get enclosure from them today and test it out today itself. if that corrects the things then can easily get cable in next 2-3 days. Would this enclosure work fine - > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dynex-2...lack/5190553.p?id=1218623897772&skuId=5190553
Its on expensive side but i can get it today and won`t have to wait for shipping. Also if I don`t need it can return as easily.
What u think?

Also if I were to take laptop to local Apple store, how long they take to diagnose the problem and do they charge to find out whats wrong?

It does sound like a bad cable. Unfortunately there is no good way to diagnose this other than eliminating the cable in the chain by using an external to test. The one you linked at BB there will work fine.
 
Just came back to confirm, that things started working fine when running my old and new ssd both from external enclosure. So most def. its cable. Will get a new cable now.
 
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