Getting frustrated with Apple....

Discussion in 'macOS' started by Zeos, Dec 13, 2014.

  1. Zeos macrumors 6502

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    I am a long-time Apple user, but as Cupertino adds more and more features, it feels like OS X is destabilizing. More beach balls, more bombs/resets/hangs, more failed features like inconsistent Keychain functionality. Anyone else miss the crash-free days of old? It's starting impact my workflow, which is not good.
     
  2. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus

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    There has to be something else going on with your machine. All of my Mac's on Yosemite are running great and I don't have any problems like you describe. I think it would be safe to say that most people are having a positive experience on OS X these days.
     
  3. Spink10 Suspended

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    Although my experience is still better than other OS - I would agree that OS X has been going down hill in stability overall.
     
  4. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus

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    What are you experiencing that gives you that feeling?
     
  5. maflynn Moderator

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    With any new roll out the OS is bugs and issues. This was the exact case with Leopard, Snow Leopard, Mavericks etc.

    Give apple time to clean up the code. By the way, if you want to comment on the old days of computer, then OS 8, OS 9 and System 7 all had stability issues, with extensions and what not.

    I think people look back and on history and forget some of the bad things and look fondly over the good things. Snow Leopard had a lot of complainers and people wishing that Apple did a better job since it was buggy and had a fair amount of crashes.
     
  6. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus

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    Yep, and now I see many people praising Snow Leopard for being one of the best OS's Apple ever released. Go figure.
     
  7. Spink10 Suspended

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    iMessage crashes, more beachballs, Microsoft office crashes (may not be OS X fault), mail still not working correctly, continuity & handoff (maybe its iOS 8 fault or OS X), wifi.

    I was an early adaptor to lion and mountain lion and they didn't give me problems. I know some people experienced problems that just wasnt my experience.
     
  8. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus

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    Yeah, there is something odd going on. Have you tried creating a new user profile and seeing if the same things happen? If not, there may be some file corruption in your main profile.
     
  9. psik macrumors 6502

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    Stop trying to save your job in apple man. It's so clear.
     
  10. Fishrrman macrumors G5

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    OP:
    Could you tell us a little more about which Mac you have, what year it was made, and whether or not it has an HDD or an SSD?
     
  11. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus

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    I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. I'm trying to offer this person some advice the best way I know how. If you have better ideas than I do, please, offer them up. :)
     
  12. Spink10 Suspended

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    I haven't - but it was a fresh install of Yosemite.
     
  13. Cassady macrumors 6502a

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    Getting frustrated with Apple....

    Nothing really noticeable - have had a few incidents, but those have been my trying new things. Still find OSX significantly more stable than the SO's Win 8 machine...
     
  14. redheeler macrumors 603

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    If you use different hardware or software and had a negative experience, that doesn't mean other people haven't had a positive experience with what they use. I've had some issues with Yosemite (mainly Finder freezes while connected to a file sharing server and the occasional refusal to log out and shut down) but overall it has been a positive experience. It has never kernel panicked or frozen beyond usability, not once.

    If your Mac is running slow, have you tried upgrading it with an SSD? It should speed up considerably.
     
  15. pdaholic macrumors 65816

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    My MBP was doing something weird last night in that wifi was super slow at 1.25 Mbps. I thought it was my router, but I decided to restart the laptop and suddenly I started getting 25mbps. I know all the previous releases have had some issues, but I tend to agree that Yosemite has had more problems that have been noticeable to me. The last update definitely helped though with system apps randomly crashing. I believe that pushing out OS's on a schedule, rather than when they are "ready," has led to users experiencing more bugs on iOS and OS X than before.
     
  16. stapoz macrumors member

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    OSX is getting new features because consumers expect this. Of course it decreases the stability but people want news in every new release otherwise they get bored or complain that there is no change in new system
     
  17. crazzapple Guest

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    Apple isn't going to release a free osx update that speeds things up on older hardware. They make their money selling new hardware and so it's in their best interest for new versions to make your older hardware slower.
     
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    A typically cynical point of view.

    The OSX upgrades that I have done have resulted in snappier performance, in my experience. However, as the first iteration of a new OSX is more likely to be somewhat buggy, I have not upgraded until subsequent updates have been released.
     
  19. Eithanius macrumors 65816

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    And they did... For more than 2 years Apple took to clean up the codes from Leopard to what became Snow Leopard with no additional new features, and another 2 years to optimised it to an almost bug-free OS... Read again, almost visually no new features, 2 years of code cleaning and 2 more years for bug squashing and optimisation... 4 freaking years without much new features. (2+2).

    The problem here and now is, the OS X engineering team can't even give themselves enough time to clean the codes and optimise the OS, much less introducing redundant and bug-ridden features. (1+1). Can you say the same about giving them time...?

    Lion = Can't comment since I practically skipped this due to the negative comments.

    Mountain Lion = Audio stuttering bug not solved even at 10.8.5. This was the closest post-SL version of OS X I would use.

    Mavericks = QuickLook and Preview gets trashed because they can't handle large .pdf files. Finder gets awfully slow...

    Yosemite = I can't comment since it has not reach the end of cycle yet, but the outlook is grim. UI went haywire everywhere...
     
  20. Mildredop macrumors 68020

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    As little as ten years ago, Apple had to work hard to be noticed. Now, the money comes rolling in regardless of what Apple produce.

    They've got lazy.

    But if I didn't have to try and could keep releasing the same products year after year with minor upgrades whilst earning billions in profit, I'd do the same.
     
  21. Zeos thread starter macrumors 6502

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    2012 MBP, Mavericks, 512 GB SSD, 2013 iMac; 2 TB Mavericks; 2012 Mac Mini, 1 TB Mavericks. Hardly a day goes by when I don't have to sit back and wait for beach ball resolution, frozen mail, or weird non-responsiveness issues that force a hard shutdown. Then on the iPad... multiple touches to get a response and poor Touch ID. On the 6 Plus, screen rotation problems, screen non-responsiveness, and very poor Touch ID. On both, Spotlight that doesn't show any results or won't respond to typing. Little frustrating things everywhere that add up to a bigger feeling of frustration.
     
  22. AlecZ macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, I really just want to use Mountain Lion for eternity. Sick of these updates. Mavericks literally did nothing for me but make everything a little slower (a lot slower when I had an HDD). I'm especially PO'd about Xcode being completely redone every single year, changing how everything works and sometimes adding bugs.

    For example, Xcode 6 has a compiler bug where it won't auto-synthesize boolean properties in Objective C iff their names are all lower-case. So all of a sudden, some perfectly good code wouldn't compile, and I had to do a workaround. Unacceptable!
     
  23. Jardins de Vin macrumors 6502a

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    Well I believe it's safe to say you're completely wrong. All I can say is: Yosemite in the App Store = rated 2.5 stars

    The problem on this forum is that there's too many people who are bootlicking Apple no matter what. Sad souls.

    But not every version of OS X is bad. If you don't like it, simply don't update. I'm using the latest version of Mavericks and I believe it is the best OS Apple has released. (using Apple since ever – never had something other than Apple)

    We also have several other Macs that are over 10 years old in our House and they work fine for normal stuff like surfing the internet, printing stuff, importing pictures, a little PhotoShop, writing emails…
    I don't understand why people always want the latest. Especially in these days where everything is rushed at Apple, you would definitely not want to upgrade to something like Yosemite.
    Although I must say, I did not have any issues with the first versions of Lion, Mountain Lion and Mavericks.
     
  24. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    That's funny. Mavericks gave me an additional 90 minutes of battery life on my 2009 MBP through new features like timer coalescing and the dramatically improved memory compression techniques...but hey what do I know?:rolleyes:
     
  25. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus

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    Completely eh?
     

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