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If you want to be healthier eat less processed foods. I've cut out soda and fast food entirely. We have a Whole Foods Market around the corner from us and they have a very nice hot bar. Keeping the portions reasonable I eat veggies and a protein and try to stay away from the starches. Mashed sweet potatoes are actually really good and are very good for you.

I've already been doing this, which is probably the only reason I'm not overweight. We don't have a Whole Foods in the neighborhood, but we do haves few natural food stores, and the local supermarkets have extensive natural food sections.I've pretty much eliminated processed foods from my diet. I tend to break with that when I go out, which isn't often. Otherwise I'm pretty strict about it.

So I've started working out a schedule (in iCal of course, because I'm a nerd :p), but Im getting a lot if conflicting opinions on how many times a week I should work out, and for how long. Any more thoughts on that area?

I'm sure my girlfriend would love if I did p90x lol. :p
 
Worst forums on the internet. Total shillfest. You'll end up getting talked into buying a lot of pixie dust. The big guys think 'fit' means 230lbs 12% bodyfat and stacking a ton of useless overpriced supplements.

Avoid like the plague. Was only good back in the early days, around 2002 to 2004 when it had grown into a really decent community. Since then it went rapidly downhill. Most of the users don't workout, just hang out to troll.

I must agree with this. I don't know why people keep recommending that forum. It's a nightmare for anyone trying to be serious about their health and well-being.
 
but Im getting a lot if conflicting opinions on how many times a week I should work out, and for how long. Any more thoughts on that area?

I'm sure my girlfriend would love if I did p90x lol. :p

I hate to say it, but see my previous post. It depends on what YOU want to achieve and how you heal. As a general rule of thumb you don't want to hit something that's already injured -- doing the same core muscles two days in a row isn't good practice.

With p90x you don't really have a choice. I would say you typically don't need to do more than an hour at a time, but that of course depends on what you really want to achieve (and how you're doing it).
 
For the nerd and in-need-of-fitness in all of us, I recommend using the following two apps:

1. Lose It!
2. RunKeeper

And work out in the gym 2-3 times a week for 45-60 minutes each time.

Monday Chest and Triceps
Tuesday Biceps and Back
Wednesday no weights
Thursday Chest and triceps
Friday Biceps and back.
 
For the nerd and in-need-of-fitness in all of us, I recommend using the following two apps:

1. Lose It!
2. RunKeeper

And work out in the gym 2-3 times a week for 45-60 minutes each time.

Monday Chest and Triceps
Tuesday Biceps and Back
Wednesday no weights
Thursday Chest and triceps
Friday Biceps and back.

And the MyFitnessPal app is also great.

Also, that's a horrible schedule. There's no reason to neglect legs.
 
Worst forums on the internet. Total shillfest. You'll end up getting talked into buying a lot of pixie dust. The big guys think 'fit' means 230lbs 12% bodyfat and stacking a ton of useless overpriced supplements.

Avoid like the plague. Was only good back in the early days, around 2002 to 2004 when it had grown into a really decent community. Since then it went rapidly downhill. Most of the users don't workout, just hang out to troll.

Oh whoops, I haven't used it in years, so not sure about the current quality
 
If you want to lose the extra weight, I recommend the Insanity program; you can pay or get it from other sources.

Or, you can jog (then add ankle weights) or swim which is even better.
 
Swim! Don't get discouraged if you can't do more than 200 yards at first, just keep at it and your fitness will improve.
 
For the nerd and in-need-of-fitness in all of us, I recommend using the following two apps:

1. Lose It!
2. RunKeeper

And work out in the gym 2-3 times a week for 45-60 minutes each time.

Monday Chest and Triceps
Tuesday Biceps and Back
Wednesday no weights
Thursday Chest and triceps
Friday Biceps and back.

That's a terrible workout plan. Where is leg, shoulder and ab training? Your workout plan looks like what most 15-year-old kids are using - just hitting the biceps and triceps all the time.

If you can only workout 2-3 times a week, then it's better to work the whole body every time. No use to break it down to different body parts because you would have too many body parts per day to work them out properly (working out the whole body every time means there is only a day or two break in between).

If you want to lose the extra weight, I recommend the Insanity program; you can pay or get it from other sources.

I've never understood why people pay money in order to lose weight. Consume more than you eat, it's that simple. You don't need special workouts or diets, and you definitely don't need a personal trainer.
 
...I've never understood why people pay money in order to lose weight. Consume more than you eat, it's that simple. You don't need special workouts or diets, and you definitely don't need a personal trainer.
I partially agree w/ you. The proper way to lose belly fat is by dieting (taking in less than what your body consumes a day), but I do believe some people need training regiments; Insanity has no weird/special workouts, just a bunch of normal workouts set in a specific sequence and w/ proper resting in between; no weights neither. Many don't know how to properly set a workout to maximize the return or proper way of working out and they end up either quitting since they are not getting the proper results or injuring themselves.
 
Buy Starting Strength from Mark Rippetoe and go read, read more, then get to work. Just don't do the GOMAD unless you are severely underweight like I was.

You need to do compound muscle building exercises with weight progression to lose your weight and strengthen yourself so when the time comes you won't actually get hurt. (Like lifting something heavy or getting knocked down)

Trust me. I've made up so many excuses in my life about being busy with organic chemistry, how weights are bad for you, etc. It was really pathetic. You have to make time, go for it and keep at it for a month. You'll develop a habit, see some gains, and feel much more healthier.

But as others have said, go to bodybuilding.com forums or the numerous bodybuilding blogs around.
 
In my experience, you have to learn to hijack your reward system to love working out or training. Otherwise it's always going to be a constant battle. Its hard for me to understand fully (cause I forgot) why people don't like exercise, being physical, sports, the like. I thrive on it and love it. But I guess I remember there was a time when I didn't enjoy it as much. And the reason for this was because I sucked at it. The problem with exercise, whatever it may be, (running, sprinting, soccer, rock climbing, heavy lifting) is that when your body isn't in shape, it sucks. It's harder to do. It's painful. Your lungs burn. In high school, I was out of shape and running the god awful mile was the most dreadful thing in the world. MAINLY, because I felt like death doing it.

But over the years, you push through the **** and see improvement and you get HOOKED. You feel better, it no longer hurts but makes you feel great. Going for a run because it feels good is clearly a long ways from running because you have to get off your ass so you don't get fat and unhealthy. Doing it out of necessity is only going to get you walking that "bare minimum" line. You'll only be doing it on and off again whenever you feel like it, or whenever the matter feels pressing.

I've trained some people and noticed that the ones that stick are those that are able to hijack their reward system to like it. And the way to do that, is to enjoy it. And to enjoy it, you need to see and feel improvement. Once you see a small but noticeable change in the mirror, it gets addicting. Taking logs of weight lifting or endurance exercises and seeing myself getting stronger, faster, quicker on paper is a very encouraging thing. Getting compliments from people and feeling good about yourself is a bonus but also a part of that. All those things take over your brain and lets your brain associate exercise and training with good, positive things.


My advice:

Toughen up and set a goal. If you have no destination, you're gonna get lost or give up. Set a goal. Something attainable yet noticeable. Your mentality is wrong. Having a vague, undefined goal of "just wanting to be healthier in general" is not going to cut it cause frankly, even you don't know how to define it. And if you can't define it, you can't know if you failed or not.
Lose 15 lbs. Increase your pull ups from 5 to 25 . Whatever it is, set a realistic, TANGIBLE goal that you can test.

Make a plan or schedule to make that happen. Setting a goal of running a 6min mile is great but if you want to do that by... "some time in the future", it's not going to happen. Give yourself a time frame, and a realistic schedule to do it.

Find a partner. No couch potato type of partner. Someone who will motivate you. I'd say personal trainer but they're expensive.

Just do it. Put on your shoes and go do it.


Getting fit and healthy is not a diet. It's a life style change. And with any lifestyle change, it starts with your mindset and mentality. If you want something bad enough, you'll find a way to get it.

P.S. I remembered, a lot of people use this as an excuse: I don't know what to do. They're not aware or knowledgeable about the exercises to do, how to do them, how frequently, etc. It seems intimidating. In this case, getting a p90x or insanity DVD to have someone just show you visually what to do, will do the trick.
 
As you admit you are "Chunky" around the waist, I'd recommend doing situps and crunches, I know it'll sound crazy but aim for 100 a day, do 10 at intervals throughout the day. This can get a little difficult at work of course ;). This is a way to gently "ease" your way into fitness. Especially around the waist area. This isn't a full routine, however it does gradually build up strength and isn't too demanding on the body. Combine this effort with others.

Crunches do not give you abs. First if you want a lot of ab muscle, crunches alone won't do it. A lot of ab training comes from their support role in things like deadlifts or squats. If the OP is chunky it wouldn't matter anyway. You won't have a six pack if there's fat there, and you cannot actually target fat locations. Basically if you want abs, you lose weight. The other thing that makes your advice terrible is the suggestion that crunches be done several times a day. These aren't the kinds of things you should do more than 2-3 times a week. You can basically do them to failure, but doing sets several times a day is dumb.

Once you get comfortable with that, start migrating to free weights. I would venture to say they're better for you in the long run. If you need a spot, just ask people -- gym rats are usually quite friendly about lifting. During this migration you can think about shifting your schedule -- you can either start going every day and hitting a different muscle class each day, while running every other day, or retain the current every other day but alternate focus on upper and lower body. This restructuring is going to depend mostly upon your availability and heal time -- some people take longer or shorter to heal after an intense workout.

For me personally I still like to do every other day with all muscles at once, plus running, but that's mostly a product of my work schedule and heal time. I also do abs every other day before bed.

Get into a schedule and stick with it.

I worry about people who do all muscles at once. You have to consider multiple things here. One would be the tendency to over train or plateau. The other is that if you spend a lot of time at a desk, you need to be very careful regarding ergonomics if you work out a lot. If you're going from working out to a desk, it's fully possible for things like tendons to not receive adequate time to heal. Other than that the work out everything every couple days is a bad idea if dealing with weights. Assuming once again that you're working down hard, your muscles are in somewhat of a broken down state the following day, recovered on the second day, and see any potential growth on the third day. Stressing out the same things too close together can inhibit this. It's also important not to make your workouts last for hours given the potential for elevated cortisol levels. I've read that some people take a waking pulse to try to determine elevations in cortisol levels, but I wouldn't know what to suggest there.

I hate to say it, but see my previous post. It depends on what YOU want to achieve and how you heal. As a general rule of thumb you don't want to hit something that's already injured -- doing the same core muscles two days in a row isn't good practice.

With p90x you don't really have a choice. I would say you typically don't need to do more than an hour at a time, but that of course depends on what you really want to achieve (and how you're doing it).

You shouldn't do weights every day. You should have resting days and cardio days. It's not a bad idea to take a week off weights every 6-8 weeks where you only do cardio. P90x doesn't seem to provide for much in the way of variation for a given muscle group.

And work out in the gym 2-3 times a week for 45-60 minutes each time.

Monday Chest and Triceps
Tuesday Biceps and Back
Wednesday no weights
Thursday Chest and triceps
Friday Biceps and back.

You should never give this advice again. It's a good way to injure yourself given the lack of rest periods, especially for someone who hasn't trained in the past. Overall I get that you're trying to fully exhaust the smaller muscles, but you're likely to over train them. Chest and lats (what you really meant when you said back) are quite strong. Your arms are likely to fail prior to your chest or back. It's actually easier to work out chest and back one day. Arms and shoulders are synergetic, but it's easier to pair them. You don't really need to go very hard on exercises that isolate triceps or biceps unless you're having trouble working the tricep heads evenly. Trying to force that in with chest and back is likely to result in bad form, as you won't have enough energy left to do them. While it's typical to do something like 3 sets of 8-12 reps, I usually go to muscle failure where I wouldn't be able to do further reps with correct form, with the weight being balanced to that. If I can do more than 12 on one, I'll go up in weight on the next set. That's a general rule, but it's important to vary the exercise types and workout pattern each week to work against plateaus. It's also important to be careful about increasing weight too quickly given that tendon strengthening is typically slower than increases in muscle strength.


That's a terrible workout plan. Where is leg, shoulder and ab training? Your workout plan looks like what most 15-year-old kids are using - just hitting the biceps and triceps all the time.

If you can only workout 2-3 times a week, then it's better to work the whole body every time. No use to break it down to different body parts because you would have too many body parts per day to work them out properly (working out the whole body every time means there is only a day or two break in between).

Abs get some training when working the legs assuming compound exercises like squats and deadlifts, as they play a major support role. I always kept the weight on the low side, didn't use a belt, and watched my form constantly. You're right though. His workout plan is beyond terrible.

I've never understood why people pay money in order to lose weight. Consume more than you eat, it's that simple. You don't need special workouts or diets, and you definitely don't need a personal trainer.

I used to see a trainer regularly, but it was a very good one. He had a background in physical therapy prior to training, and he could answer pretty much anything. Overall I still do fine on my own, but I have seen a couple minor injuries. Most typical trainers you find at the gym suck.

One thing no one seems to have mentioned is eating around weightlifting. If you're going really hard, this matters. Typically you need a small meal or pre workout snack around 60-90 minutes before you work out. This way your muscles are firing at maximum efficiency. Beyond that (keep in mind this assumes you're working out quite hard) you'd have something small after your workout. This does not necessarily mean you eat more overall. Portions matter. Post workout you'll want something like a 4:1-5:1 ratio of carbohydrates to protein. Sugar is really the first thing you need there, especially if you're getting shaky. You can keep something like a banana in your car while you work out assuming it doesn't get too hot. Again I'm not saying to eat way more in a day. You just end up dividing it up differently, and it does depend on how hard you work out.
 
eliminate as much saturated fats and sugars from your diet and that waist should shrink

Saturated fats are not bad for you. That's a myth that's been disproven.

Although you mention you eat "healthy," consider a dietary regimen designed to promote fat loss, such as a low carb diet. I recommend reading up on the Slow Carb Diet (SCD) or the Cyclical Ketogenic Diet (CKD), the latter being the more extreme and limited of the two. Major dietary changes will have a much greater effect on your fat loss and physique compared with the effect of adding a typical exercise routine. This, however, does not mitigate the importance of exercise, as you should definitely be doing both.

Yeah, I've been doing a ketodiet since March and I can vouch for the benefits of putting your body in ketosis. My girlfriend is losing about 1% BF a week on the diet and I have a friend who's dropped about 14 pounds and 3 inches off the waist on it over the last 2 months. And the best part is you get to eat bacon, cheese, etc, so it's easy to feel satiated.

I've also done the Slow Carb diet, which is Tim Ferris' diet, and I recommend just doing a straight ketogenic diet. The Slow Carb diet has a ton of restrictions that in retrospect, don't make much sense. AKA beans are made a staple of that diet even though you can get the same macros through other foods. If you're in ketosis, there's not enough fat in the diet to keep you energized and the cheat day will knock you out. If you're not in ketosis, it feels like you're on a very restrictive starvation diet 6 days of the week and on the 7th you binge til you throw up.
 
I recommend going to a boxing/thai boxing gym or something similar. You will get into shape quickly while also learning something useful. You'd probably want to avoid "hardcore" gyms though.

Also, avoid snacks and try to eat a reasonable share of fruit and vegetables. Other then that, it does not matter what you eat, as long as you are getting regular physical exercise (and I am not talking about walking few miles or morning exercises).
 
With my brother we are doing P90x. Is good.

The main thing? We are not aiming to have a "perfect body", neither archive it in 90 days. My goal? Have it in 10 years, or 20... whatever.

We are almost done in the first round. No "result" in the vanity departament.

The good things, the better things that you can get:

1- You have more energy
2- Increase health
3- You be more capable. At first, I was unable to do 3 push-ups... Now I do several series of 5-10 depending in how weird they are. A lot of the exercise starting p90x were "imposible" but now we can do almost all of them.

Be able is FAR better that look good. Look good is just a nice consequence.
 
I was reading that sit ups and crunches are bad for your back. How much truth is there to that?

Apparently they do stuff up your back - Whenever I've tried to do them they've strained by back, and my friends who are really into the gym say that they're no good either... So I wouldn't do them if I were you.
 
Whatever amount of sex you're having, double it. Watch the pounds fall away.

Well, I don't live with my girlfriend, so that might be an issue, so the only way I could do that would be to also have sex with someone else. :p Not sure my girlfriend would take kindly to that.

Apparently they do stuff up your back - Whenever I've tried to do them they've strained by back, and my friends who are really into the gym say that they're no good either... So I wouldn't do them if I were you.

Yeah, that's what I was reading. I guess I'll pass on those.

I've been doing push-ups and running in place. Not very extensive, but it's a start I guess. I've made a schedule, and I'll be doing that a few times a week. This is on top of the walking that I already do.
 
I just do full body workouts:

-Jog half a mile, serious stretches (not 30 second pieces of junk I see all these wannabe high school jocks doing)
-3x(6-8) Barbell Bench Press
-2x(6-8) Standup Barbell Curls
-2x(6-8) Barbell Skullcrushers
-3x(10-15) Machine Calf Raises
-3x(6-8) Barbell Squats
-2x(6-8) Pull-Ups
-3x(15-20) Declined, Weighted Sit Ups

I started out my freshman year of university at 6'0 155 pounds. Lanky, no muscle. Bad back. I met some cool dudes who invited me to the gym, got me on a great weight gaining diet (gallon of milk a day, lots of protein from nuts + spinach in addition to meat, lots of water), and this workout and it has done me well. Whereas I had a bad back and couldn't do a squat without pain, they gave me simple back workouts until my back was strong enough to do a squat. I now squat 300 regularly without many problems. I am now 6'0 200 pounds without too much body fat, I started out only doing declined situps with no weight and could only do about 10. Now I use 35 pounds behind my head and can do a set of 40, although 3 sets of 15-20 are better.

Honestly, I think a lot of the members from this community can remember how much time I would spend on here everyday doing absolutely nothing, and I was super out of shape. If I can do it I think anyone can do it.
 
Crunches do not give you abs. First if you want a lot of ab muscle, crunches alone won't do it. A lot of ab training comes from their support role in things like deadlifts or squats. If the OP is chunky it wouldn't matter anyway. You won't have a six pack if there's fat there, and you cannot actually target fat locations. Basically if you want abs, you lose weight. The other thing that makes your advice terrible is the suggestion that crunches be done several times a day. These aren't the kinds of things you should do more than 2-3 times a week. You can basically do them to failure, but doing sets several times a day is dumb.

I never claimed they'd give him abs, I said they'd help strengthen his muscles. And im just giving the same advice my physical training instructor gave me, as they're spread out during the day they won't put too much of a strain on the muscle group. Also I suggested doing crunches and situps. Mine has me aiming for 100 pressups a day too now.
 
dude, no joke that sweat room 1-2 hour yoga sessions are killer. Good for balance and core. If it were me, I'd do heavy lifting (never give that up lol), jujitsu and yoga split into days a week.
 
I just do full body workouts:

-Jog half a mile, serious stretches (not 30 second pieces of junk I see all these wannabe high school jocks doing)

I'm just wondering, do you mean static stretches prior to lifting? I usually don't do those until the end, and I don't stretch as hard if I'm lifting (typically stretch harder on cardio days). I figured the half mile was a warmup.


I started out my freshman year of university at 6'0 155 pounds. Lanky, no muscle. Bad back. I met some cool dudes who invited me to the gym, got me on a great weight gaining diet (gallon of milk a day, lots of protein from nuts + spinach in addition to meat, lots of water), and this workout and it has done me well. Whereas I had a bad back and couldn't do a squat without pain, they gave me simple back workouts until my back was strong enough to do a squat. I now squat 300 regularly without many problems. I am now 6'0 200 pounds without too much body fat, I started out only doing declined situps with no weight and could only do about 10. Now I use 35 pounds behind my head and can do a set of 40, although 3 sets of 15-20 are better.

Some of this just sounds weird to me, like the gallon of milk a day. I realize that whey protein is practically the gold standard for weight gain, but dairy is quite taxing to digest, and I've never heard of anyone drinking that much milk. It may be different for you, but most people would put too much stress on their knees squatting 300 for it to be truly healthy. You can get a good workout with much less weight than that when it comes to the legs. I realize everyone is different. If you were experiencing pain while exercising, you were doing too much at the time. Even working through that can do real damage. It's better to use 0 weight than do something that causes pain while lifting.

I never claimed they'd give him abs, I said they'd help strengthen his muscles. And im just giving the same advice my physical training instructor gave me, as they're spread out during the day they won't put too much of a strain on the muscle group. Also I suggested doing crunches and situps. Mine has me aiming for 100 pressups a day too now.

Doh I didn't mean to be inaccurate. Every trainer I've ever used suggested varying the ab exercises like you'd vary any other routine and not doing them more than twice a week. I would do several variations on ab exercises each time, and I basically did them to failure.
 
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