Getting my 5,1 ready for Vive VR!

fendersrule

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I've only been able to assess my nvidia-branded GTX 1070 when plugged up to my TV. I've spent about 3 hours now in MacOS doing basic-every-day consumer tasks (Mail, iMessage, Youtube, Chrome browsing, Bootchamp, etc). I even ran Heaven 4.0 (and it stomped the RX 580 in MacOS which was somewhat surprising). Have yet to see a single glitch of any sort. I tested putting the product to sleep and waking it up (very important to me since I have 3 Westmere machines in the house). All is perfect so far. If anyone knows how to make bugs appear, please tell me.

Sometime this week I should be able to put the Mac Pro back in the office and take a closer look on my 27" Cinema Display.
 

fendersrule

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MacOS Heaven 4.0:

RX580:
Screen Shot 2017-11-06 at 6.04.02 PM.png



GTX 1070:
Screen Shot 2017-11-06 at 6.11.05 PM.png

[doublepost=1510018508][/doublepost]Windows 10 Heaven 4.0:

RX580 Undervolted:
HeavenUVFinal.png


GTX 1070:
Uni1070.PNG

[doublepost=1510018957][/doublepost]Super Position gaming:

RX580 Undervolted:
RX580GamingFinal.png


GTX 1070:
1070gaming.PNG

[doublepost=1510019129][/doublepost]
Out of curiosity, could you run bruceX on the 1070 :)
I'd love to! But I don't have Final Cut Pro. :(
 

h9826790

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The Pixlas mod is a bit intimidating :)
Just switched to the Green Team. After discuss with another member here. I agree that I should choose a reference 1080Ti. That should have least problem. Because Nvidia test their web driver with their own reference card.

However, the actual Nvidia brand 1080Ti is considered very expensive, really hard to find in my town, and with the lowest performance cooler. Therefore, I finally go for the PNY 1080Ti XLR8.
XLR8-Graphics-Cards-GTX-1080Ti-OC-ra-new.png


This should be the 2nd safest option. Which has a PCB that 100% identical to the Nvidia reference one. When I go for this route, I found that there are only 2 cards has reference PCB with an after market cooler. The Galax EXOC and this PNY XLR8. In fact, the EXOC's PCB is made by Nvidia.
GALAX GTX1080 Ti White BOX+Card.png

But I end up still pick the PNY card. It's also a 100% reference PCB, so the chance of having incompatibility issue should be also very low. I quite like its 3 fan design. Even though it's not the quietest one, but it's not that loud anyway. Also, I quite like its "always on" fan. May be some users prefer the new "silent" feature, but I am still pretty old fashion, and prefer to keep the card cooler as long as the fan noise is not significant. (The cMP is not a silent machine at the beginning anyway).

The card is very long, but perfectly fit inside the cMP's PCIe compartment slot 1 (with the back plate ON). And this card is "just" a dual slot card. Most of the after market 1080Ti is 2.5 slot card, which I would like to avoid.
IMG_3317-1.jpg

IMG_3319-1.jpg


The web driver enable PCIe 2.0 as expected.
Screen Shot 2018-03-09 at 23.12.56.jpg

My previous R9 380 locked the refresh rate up to 120Hz, and the 1080Ti go up to 144Hz straight away.
Screen Shot 2018-03-09 at 23.08.54.jpg

Perform quite well in Luxmark and GB Metal test (not sure why it says the card ran at 1240MHz, but I don't really care as long as it perform).
Ball.jpg

1080Ti Metal.jpg

This card works fine with just dual mini 6pin including Furmark. For some reason, even though I use a bridge between the card and the mini 6pins. The power draw is not that perfectly even (but it clearly help a lot). From my observation, the difference vary between 2-10W (update: these power draw difference is slot related, the cMP count some of the slot 1 power is drawer from Booster 2). So, since one of the mini 6pin shows the power draw is varying at ~95W under Furmark. I suspect the other one is fluctuating up to around 105W (just a bit above the display limit 97W). With another 60W from the slot. Totally ~260W, pretty much as expected. And since Luxmark and Unigine benchmarks shows the power draw rarely go above 90W from either mini 6pin. That's pretty much representing normal daily very high demand situation. Therefore, even though CUDA-Z heavy test can still shutdown my Mac (I tested it myself). I am still very happy with the power draw (and the distribution). It's well within my own comfort zone.
All balanced-1.jpg

On Windows' side, the driver / software doing a better job. Super high performance.
Heavy ultra wide.PNG

And the power management setting make sure the card always stay within the decided 250W TDP.

I keep SIP and gatekeeper completely off, played few games, tried Safari, Chrome, some basic Photoshop etc, all work flawlessly at this moment. No glitch yet. Not sure if that's because I pick the right card or just lucky. Anyway, I am happy with the switching. The next challenge will be OS update. But I have the 7950 Mac Editing card on hand, nothing can go too wrong.

P.S. This card is definitely not for FCPX, BruceX 35s, and the power draw is about 50-60W in total during the test. Obviously FCPX cannot utilise the card (at least not in this particular situation).
 
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devon807

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1080Ti looks beast :eek: Once I get my 8-core 4,1 Im gonna get a second RX 580 :) I would love to switch back to Team Green but I need OpenCL :(
 

h9826790

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Suddenly realise that we posted quite a few benchmarks but not the VR benchmarks for this post. Let me do it. This is how good the cMP is :D

VR details.JPG
 
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Ahmed ali

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Just switched to the Green Team. After discuss with another member here. I agree that I should choose a reference 1080Ti. That should have least problem. Because Nvidia test their web driver with their own reference card.

However, the actual Nvidia brand 1080Ti is considered very expensive, really hard to find in my town, and with the lowest performance cooler. Therefore, I finally go for the PNY 1080Ti XLR8.
View attachment 733616

This should be the 2nd safest option. Which has a PCB that 100% identical to the Nvidia reference one. When I go for this route, I found that there are only 2 cards has reference PCB with an after market cooler. The Galax EXOC and this PNY XLR8. In fact, the EXOC's PCB is made by Nvidia.
View attachment 733619
But I end up still pick the PNY card. It's also a 100% reference PCB, so the chance of having incompatibility issue should be also very low. I quite like its 3 fan design. Even though it's not the quietest one, but it's not that loud anyway. Also, I quite like its "always on" fan. May be some users prefer the new "silent" feature, but I am still pretty old fashion, and prefer to keep the card cooler as long as the fan noise is not significant. (The cMP is not a silent machine at the beginning anyway).

The card is very long, but perfectly fit inside the cMP's PCIe compartment slot 1 (with the back plate ON). And this card is "just" a dual slot card. Most of the after market 1080Ti is 2.5 slot card, which I would like to avoid.
View attachment 733731
View attachment 733729

The web driver enable PCIe 2.0 as expected.
View attachment 753861
My previous R9 380 locked the refresh rate up to 120Hz, and the 1080Ti go up to 144Hz straight away.
View attachment 753859
Perform quite well in Luxmark and GB Metal test (not sure why it says the card ran at 1240MHz, but I don't really care as long as it perform).
View attachment 753860
View attachment 753862
This card works fine with just dual mini 6pin including Furmark. For some reason, even though I use a bridge between the card and the mini 6pins. The power draw is not that perfectly even (but it clearly help a lot). From my observation, the difference vary between 2-10W (update: these power draw difference is slot related, the cMP count some of the slot 1 power is drawer from Booster 2). So, since one of the mini 6pin shows the power draw is varying at ~95W under Furmark. I suspect the other one is fluctuating up to around 105W (just a bit above the display limit 97W). With another 60W from the slot. Totally ~260W, pretty much as expected. And since Luxmark and Unigine benchmarks shows the power draw rarely go above 90W from either mini 6pin. That's pretty much representing normal daily very high demand situation. Therefore, even though CUDA-Z heavy test can still shutdown my Mac (I tested it myself). I am still very happy with the power draw (and the distribution). It's well within my own comfort zone.
View attachment 753755
On Windows' side, the driver / software doing a better job. Super high performance.
View attachment 733739
And the power management setting make sure the card always stay within the decided 250W TDP.

I keep SIP and gatekeeper completely off, played few games, tried Safari, Chrome, some basic Photoshop etc, all work flawlessly at this moment. No glitch yet. Not sure if that's because I pick the right card or just lucky. Anyway, I am happy with the switching. The next challenge will be OS update. But I have the 7950 Mac Editing card on hand, nothing can go too wrong.

P.S. This card is definitely not for FCPX, BruceX 35s, and the power draw is about 50-60W in total during the test. Obviously FCPX cannot utilise the card (at least not in this particular situation).
[doublepost=1559326036][/doublepost]I have a titan x pascal screen card that has all its connections on Mac pro 5.1 but the screen does not work and the screen boot does not appear.

Please, do you solve the problem?
 

h9826790

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[doublepost=1559326036][/doublepost]

I have a titan x pascal screen card that has all its connections on Mac pro 5.1 but the screen does not work and the screen boot does not appear.

Please, do you solve the problem?
If you want boot screen, send that to MVC for flashing service.

I don’t need boot screen from my 1080Ti. So, I haven’t “solve” this yet.
 

Squuiid

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If you want boot screen, send that to MVC for flashing service.

I don’t need boot screen from my 1080Ti. So, I haven’t “solve” this yet.
I wouldn’t send anything to MVC anymore. He’s AWOL.
 

Synchro3

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Contact MacVidCards Europe for flashing services.

And install the Nvidia web drivers.
 

Ahmed ali

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If you want boot screen, send that to MVC for flashing service.

I don’t need boot screen from my 1080Ti. So, I haven’t “solve” this yet.
My screen card does not work screen regardless of the boot screen, is it related to the power supply ? Or is it related to the so-called nvflashin?
[doublepost=1559434923][/doublepost]
I never use MVC service. So no comment on this. But I only know this option to make his Titan X able to shows boot screen.
Maybe it has to do with load wattage for screen card ???
 

h9826790

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My screen card does not work screen regardless of the boot screen, is it related to the power supply ? Or is it related to the so-called nvflashin?
[doublepost=1559434923][/doublepost]

Maybe it has to do with load wattage for screen card ???
How you power the card?

Did you check if web driver is correctly installed and activated?