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Getting my diploma without walking?
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That would be considered an "unusal" haircut, and those are not allowed. I don't have a school book for the wording, but something along the lines of what they call "unusal or bizzare haircuts are not permitted". I have been fighting their rules for years now, letting my hair grow and grow until I am told several times that if I don't cut my hair I will be subject to BEC (Behavior Enrichment Class, or basically In School Suspension). So, due to being involved with extracurricular activies, I bow down and cut my hair at the last minute. Well, this time I am done with everything for the year and have everything minus my diploma (which if others are right, and all that matters is my transcript, then that is not that big of a deal... I just hope they couldn't hold back my transcript.. seems as if they wouldn't have the right). Powerful small town school with very conservative views = lack of civil liberaties (the list goes on for what has been forbidden by school rules, I won't list them all) and lack of logic.
Good idea, in fact I may actually do it. They could always still bitch (and there is a clause that says they have final decision on all things.. basically they can change anything even if it isn't written). In many ways it would be best to just follow the rules, but it just makes me sooo very angry that THEY can tell me how my hair can and cannot be. While yes, it will grow back, the very concept of them telling anyhow how they can wear their hair just makes me so very angry.
Minus the one finger salute (I am a rebel, but not that much of one) I would not be opposed to slicking my hair back, and of course I could lower the collar some and get away with it (I suspect). I have thought of this one, and while it is still letting the school win on one hand they lose on the other. I walk, the family/friends clap, and I go home. Good idea.
So I will slick my hair back (or tuck it under my cap) and go (for the sake of my parents) and walk.... I don't think I will have to trim any hair.. but just the thought of the principal saying what he said in the meeting this morning "student's won't walk if they are not in dress code, and that means those guys in here need to cut their hair" and then he looked right at me and asked if I had a problem with him. I asked the question "Well, aren't I still entitiled to my diploma, even if I choose to not walk" and he says "yes, but is a very long out process". So that drew me here to wonder if anyone knew about the process. The very thought that the school could deny the diploma if you didn't walk seems very un-fair and messed up. If they have a problem with me tucking my hair under the cap or slicking it back, then so be it.. I won't trim my hair, that just tells them "you've won.. and in future years you can do the same thing with any student you want. You control us". That I won't give the impression of.
Heh, my father didn't walk at his graduation from college. I'm not sure if my mother did. And now that I go to the same school they did, I have no intentions of walking. ESPECIALLY not when I can get paid $75 to play in the band for the ceremony!freeny said:Now college $$$, that deserves a walk
Walking at graduation is complete bull. It's basically only so your parents can take more useless pictures of you wearing a stupid outfit. That being said, your parents will probably kill you if you don't walk... so keep that in mind.
My parents didn't give a **** that I graduated highschool, and neither did I. We both expected it, and were just waiting for uni to start.
Who cares about the diploma or the walk.........they're both worthless. Nobody is ever going to ask you for your HS diploma.
Who cares about the diploma or the walk.........they're both worthless. Nobody is ever going to ask you for your HS diploma.
maestro55 said:
This seems like the way to go to me. The principal was only telling you it would be difficult to intimidate you into complying. He can't legally deny you your diploma if you don't walk for any reason. (If it were me, I'd be strongly tempted to tuck it in until the moment he hands me the substitute piece of paper, then take the cap off and shake my hair out into full hippiness just to spite him. But that's just me.)
It's pretty obvious that he's worried about the school's image, in which case tucked-in, slicked-back hair would give the appearance of being clean-cut, and therefore he couldn't have any reasonable objection to that. If he still says no, then I say don't walk unless your parents beg/plead/bribe you into doing so.
maestro55 said:
Got news for you. You are going to spend the rest of your life being told what to do and doing things you don't want to. I'm doing a project at work right now that I think is a waste of time and money. Guess what? I don't get paid to make that decision so I go with the flow, finish the project and move on to something I actually like doing.
Save your energy for battles you can win (like a school board election in a few years).
I saw a sign on my way home today: "Class of 06 the world is yours - Fix it"
ejb190 said:
Doing a project for a job that I am getting paid for, in which I feel might be pointless is very much different from being told by the school administration how someone can wear their hair. We (students) get told all the time by school officials, when we complain about the rules, that we are going to have to follow dress code rules out in the real world. However, really things are being more lax. For instance, I was at the ACM-ICPC (Association for Computing Machinery-International Collegiate Programming Contest) for the opening day this year in San Antonio. The keynote speakers from IBM were wearing blue IBM shirts and khakis (as compared to the suits). No, I didn't see any piercings or long hair on any of the guys, but it isn't uncommon to see a guy with a pony tail or an earring working in an office (my dad had a guy that worked for him who had many piercings).
So while I do understand I may have to follow some dress codes while out in the real world, it is becoming more lax and frankly if someone had a problem with long hair and an d an earring, I don't think I would want to work for them, anyways. So if I was having a hard time finding a job, sure I would follow the dress codes, otherwise I hope I can get a job where it isn't a big deal (I plan on moving up north.. maybe Canada.. or out to California.. so that shouldn't be very hard).
Do what you want.
Yea yea this is a day late and all, but trust me unless your parents are really upset by it, screw walking. Of course this comes from someone who did not walk at HS, BA, or MS grad ceremonies either. Had to walk for my PhD (fiancé and advisor made me). So as you can see I am not really that fond of these things, they are universally filled with tedium and useless pronouncements on how grand your life will be now that you have passed the rigors of the academy. BS.
Life is ultimately about what you deicide it should be and while it may be true that things do require compromise (like appearance in job related environments) the rewards are also more clear-cut. Other than keeping family happy, walking in grad ceremonies has no rewards worth contemplating.
All I have to say is I have great sympathy for you stuck in that cesspit of righteous dubiousness known as the Texas educational system. If those rules existed when and where I went to school I would simply never have graduated from HS. Sit for the SAT, take the GED test and go to college where such nonsense is not an issue. I fail to see how concerns about appearance and all these other dress code/personal conduct codes make one whit of difference in educational outcome. Students from TX are just as unprepared as the ones from other states when faced with their first taste of the rigors that await them in my first-year seminar course.
Yea yea this is a day late and all, but trust me unless your parents are really upset by it, screw walking. Of course this comes from someone who did not walk at HS, BA, or MS grad ceremonies either. Had to walk for my PhD (fiancé and advisor made me). So as you can see I am not really that fond of these things, they are universally filled with tedium and useless pronouncements on how grand your life will be now that you have passed the rigors of the academy. BS.
Life is ultimately about what you deicide it should be and while it may be true that things do require compromise (like appearance in job related environments) the rewards are also more clear-cut. Other than keeping family happy, walking in grad ceremonies has no rewards worth contemplating.
All I have to say is I have great sympathy for you stuck in that cesspit of righteous dubiousness known as the Texas educational system. If those rules existed when and where I went to school I would simply never have graduated from HS. Sit for the SAT, take the GED test and go to college where such nonsense is not an issue. I fail to see how concerns about appearance and all these other dress code/personal conduct codes make one whit of difference in educational outcome. Students from TX are just as unprepared as the ones from other states when faced with their first taste of the rigors that await them in my first-year seminar course.
I agree, I have chosen to not to go the baccalaureate ceremony on Sunday. Friends were giving me a hard time saying I should come, but I have chosen not to go because I really don't want to go and listen to that BS. Also they hold this in the local church and of course it will involve a strong religious side. While I am not anti-religion, I am an Agnostic who doesn't want to go and spend my evening in a church with sort of the side agenda of getting me to become a religious person (maybe I am generalizing, but that is what I have seen so far when I have gone into churches for any reason, and so I tend to avoid them).
As a person who graduated from high school 5 days ago (this past Saturday), I can tell you that it is a complete waste of time. The only reason I walked was because my parents were holding my MacBook over my head making me.
If I were you and you can get out of it, do NOT walk. You will not regret it. Between graduation practice and the actual ceremony, it was about 10 hours which I wish I could get back.
If I were you and you can get out of it, do NOT walk. You will not regret it. Between graduation practice and the actual ceremony, it was about 10 hours which I wish I could get back.
Frozone said:
umm hate to break it to you but you are a bad person to be giving that advice. It not something you will live to regret in 5 day. it more something that you have a good chance of regreting. An exaple from my own life is I skip my sr prom. I didnt regret it at the time but now over 5 years later it is a big regret that I never went to it and if I had it to do over yeah I would go. It something I can never get back skipping out on.
Same thing with the walking. It be years down the road that the regret will set in and the memory from it will be a lot better. At the time when I walk it was boring but at the same time it felt good doing it and now I am very glad I did it. My parents and family where proud of me more so than I was of my self. It is something for family more than anything else. Rememeber no matter what you parents really say they want to see you walk. Do it for you family if for no other reason. They want to see you do it.
I walked in HS, then went to a JR college and walked cause that was the only way they would give it to me, I argued and lost. When I graduated from Chapel Hill, I stood as part of a section in the football stadium, the schools all sat together, education, business, arts,.... we stood in our spot, were blessed and went home.
I can tell you as a father of 3, I want to see my kid make the walk. Do it for the ones that also worked hard for you to get there.
I can tell you as a father of 3, I want to see my kid make the walk. Do it for the ones that also worked hard for you to get there.
Timepass said:
I'm a bad person for telling the truth? I'm not much into the ceremony stuff, and to me walking at graduation was truly worthless. Why would I want to sit there with hundreds of my classmates, most of whom I dislike, and watch them get diploma's. Sorry, but missing graduation is not something I would have regretted.
