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Getting sick and tired of the Fanboy hate

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macfan881

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Now over the last few months with the whole iPhone situation with the Gizmodo situation to people owning droid phones etc. it seems to me that the being a mac fan or fanboy etc is being coniciderd a bad thing, now last time i checked this is a "Mac" site its sad to see now that any one trys to defend apple on these forums now get called out or trolled etc. any one else besides me getting tired of this recent trend in here?
 
I think it'll pass. Given the fact that happy people are usually quiet and unhappy people are usually loud, it's fallacious to take all the noise as evidence of a cataclysmic failure on Apple's part. I love my iPhone 4 and so does everyone I know, antenna and all. My proximity sensor is not good yet, but I am confident in Apple's ability and intention to make it good.

Today's press conference brought it home. You can return the iPhone, or you can keep it knowing what you know about and get a free gift in the process. Continuing to complain serves no purpose.
 
Getting sick and tired of the Fanboy hate
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Stop making it so easy.

macfan881 said:
its sad to see now that any one trys to defend apple on these forums now get called out or trolled etc.
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The problem is that true fanboy arguments (and the ones that get labeled as trolls) blindly defend Apple with a mentality that is not based on a) reality or b) tact. There are plenty of posters who make reasoned arguments for (and against) Apple- there's nothing wrong with that.
 
How about we simply stop using the term 'fanboy'?

When someone, who might reasonably be called a fanboy, goes beyond stating a simple opinion, and starts distorting the facts, let's call him/her out on that, by arguing against his or her position, in a way that invites a fruitful discussion. To question someone's motivation by throwing out the 'fanboy' accusation and thereby pretty much indicating that you're going to discount his argument regardless of its possible merit, makes no real sense to me.
 
I'm tired of the "fanboy" trend......

I haven't been called one...

I'm not too much of the guy that gets a MacBook and upgrades the memory and memorizes it's memory and internal stuff or idk anything about computer science.. I don't know the history of apple too much either.....I only memorize things from the late 1990s.

I like macbooks, iPods, and iPads, because I like their purpose and design and I have them.

I don't have an iMac, iPhone, or apple TV!.

Am I a fanboy? Idk.....

I like some things and I don't like other things.

What are the characteristics of a fanboy anyways?
 
niuniu said:
I'm a Mac fan. But that's different from being a fanboy which typically means that you're blind to faults and frustratingly skewed and biased. People like me deserve respect the latter deserve everything they get :D
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This is exactly it.

Fanboys see through any problem, or as some people here do, convert that problem into a positive thing and a sole reason why Apple should be worshipped nonstop by all.

Fanboys are a bad thing. Fans are a good thing.
 
Dagless said:
This is exactly it.

Fanboys see through any problem, or as some people here do, convert that problem into a positive thing and a sole reason why Apple should be worshipped nonstop by all.

Fanboys are a bad thing. Fans are a good thing.
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Exactly. When people can't admit that their view is biased, there will be issues. Same applies if their ego is too big so they cannot admit that they are wrong, even though they know they are.

iPhone forum is no longer a forum. It's a battlefield. Too many people join this site in order to troll. It's not a surprise though. If people's only aim is to contaminate their anger, there won't be anything else but chaos.
 
You can take the high road or call them Microsheep or Fandroid.


Hellhammer said:
Exactly. When people can't admit that their view is biased, there will be issues. Same applies if their ego is too big so they cannot admit that they are wrong, even though they know they are.

iPhone forum is no longer a forum. It's a battlefield. Too many people join this site in order to troll. It's not a surprise though. If people's only aim is to contaminate their anger, there won't be anything else but chaos.
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I think most Microsoft FUDsters went to work for Android.

And Microsoft still spends about half a BILLION dollars on "advertising" etc.
 
miles01110 said:
Computer specs in a signature and overuse of :apple: symbols, for starters.
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Yep you nailed it computer specs and a long list of Apple products in a signature. It is the number one warning sign you are wasting your time attempting to engage in any serious debate with a particular individual.
 
Personally, I think that dogmatism has poisoned both camps. You can no longer be someone who just happens to enjoy a product--unless you take a vow of silence. If you weigh in on the argument at all, you are just one of the lemmings rushing toward the edge--completely incapable of forming your own opinions.

I think the real way of detecting a "fanboy" or "fandroid" is not in how they defend their own choices, but in how they attack the choices of others. "Oh, so you bought a Crapple phone? Have fun in your 'walled garden' with your lack of flash or any sort of choice/customization! I guess you drank the iSheep kool-aid!" Or, "Yeah, enjoy your crapdroid. I hope you enjoy your laggy, buggy OS that never gets updated...on a device that runs out of battery all the time. But, at least you get a stylus... /eyeroll"

The whole thing is just stupid. :rolleyes:
 
I don't understand how something like electronic device being emotionally important enough to an individual to generate such an extremely strong emotion as hate.

Hate Hitler.

Hate cruelty.

Hate gratuitously inhumane behavior.

But "hate" an electronic device??!!

Save it for something more important.;)
 
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I don't understand how something like electronic device being emotionally important enough to an individual to generate such an extremely strong emotion as hate.

Hate Hitler.

Hate cruelty.

Hate gratuitously inhumane behavior.

But "hate" an electronic device??!!

Save it for something more important.;)
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I hate this post. ;)
 
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Shrink said:
I don't understand how something like electronic device being emotionally important enough to an individual to generate such an extremely strong emotion as hate.

Hate Hitler.

Hate cruelty.

Hate gratuitously inhumane behavior.

But "hate" an electronic device??!!

Save it for something more important.;)
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Well said as usual Shrink.
And to be blunt I am sick of it also.
IMO and non related topics should be locked (IE. dont ask about an android in the iPhone Forum, or the HP envy in the MBP forum)
 
wrinkster22 said:
IMO and non related topics should be locked (IE. dont ask about an android in the iPhone Forum, or the HP envy in the MBP forum)
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Discussing competitors' products is not unrelated. It's completely fine to ask whether one should buy an Android phone or iPhone, as long as it's done legitimately. The problem begins when people post trollish replies like "Android lags and never gets updated". Then someone else comes in and begins the war: "Oh, look! Another stupid iSheep who has never tried Android! Liking your Kool-Aid, eh?" And we all know the rest.

However, not all threads are like this. I've been into numerous PC vs Mac threads which have been fine. Sure, these debate threads cause a lot more work for us mods than e.g. troubleshooting threads do, but that doesn't mean that we should start playing nannies.

We don't live in an Apple bubble so there is no need to act like that.
 
miles01110 said:
Computer specs in a signature and overuse of :apple: symbols, for starters.
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So I'm qualified ... :apple:

Yes, I call myself the "official Apple fanboy" ; nothing wrong with that ...but I'm open for others, too. But finally be happy to come "home"

And hate is not needed in this context; that's waste of energy and immature.
 
tkermit said:
How about we simply stop using the term 'fanboy'?

When someone, who might reasonably be called a fanboy, goes beyond stating a simple opinion, and starts distorting the facts, let's call him/her out on that, by arguing against his or her position, in a way that invites a fruitful discussion. To question someone's motivation by throwing out the 'fanboy' accusation and thereby pretty much indicating that you're going to discount his argument regardless of its possible merit, makes no real sense to me.
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This. I think calling someone a "fanboy" (or any of its other terms like iSheep) should be a warn-able offense. Its getting seriously annoying on this site.

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miles01110 said:
Computer specs in a signature and overuse of :apple: symbols, for starters.
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The computer specs are actually VERY useful especially in programming, buying advice, or graphics forums were people often ask what type of machine you are running on.

Instead of having to type your specs all the time people can see what you are using. Its why I put mine in there. I've gotten many PM's about how software runs on my machine.
 
chrono1081 said:
This. I think calling someone a "fanboy" (or any of its other terms like iSheep) should be a warn-able offense. Its getting seriously annoying on this site.
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It already is:

Name-calling. Name-calling falls into the category of insults and will be treated as such according to the forum rules, your own opinion about another member notwithstanding. You can't call a bigot a bigot, a troll a troll, or a fanboy a fanboy, any more than you can call an idiot an idiot. You can disagree with the content of another member's statement or give your evidence or opinion to dispute their claims, but you may not make a negative personal characterization about that member.
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http://guides.macrumors.com/Help:Rules_for_Appropriate_Debate

And since name-calling is insulting, it's also a bannable offense:

Insults. Direct personal insult of another forum member (e.g., "You are an idiot.") and other name-calling. Why? Because this isn't grade school. People should be able to discuss or even dispute other's posts without insulting people. You may dispute somebody's opinion but not attack/flame the person who stated it. There are a lot of other non-direct-personal insults that won't necessary get you banned instantly, but depending on the context/nature may lead to post editing, post deletion, warnings, or time-outs. They include telling people to shut up and being extremely or repeatedly rude or sarcastic. It's not your place to tell other users they are not welcome; if they follow the rules, they are welcome. Bottom line -- don't try to tick off others and don't make discussions unnecessarily personal. If somebody else insults you, report their post; their post does not give you a license to break the rules by returning their insults. Although we do not read Private Messages sent between forum members, the rules for appropriate and inappropriate content apply to them as well.
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