Getting Spammed with "Disk Not Ejected Properly"

MaxMike

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While I wait for my new iMac and SMB gives me some issues, I bought a 1TB 970 EVO and a 10Gbps USB-C enclosure from Amazon and it's plugged into one of the right-side Thunderbolt 3 ports on my tbMBP. Over the past few weeks I've had it, I almost always get spammed with the "Disk Not Ejected Properly" warning when I wake it from sleep or even just wake up the screen after a few minutes on inactivity. There's usually so many of them piled on the side of the screen I have to log out and log back in to clear the side of my screen. Tried unchecking "Put hard disks to sleep when possible" and that had no effect. Anyone have any ideas to try and clear this up?
 

neliason

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I have this problem too. I think Mac power management has just become awful. In addition to this my Mac takes several seconds to wake from sleep. The problem started in one of the last High Sierra updates. So, I don’t think there is anything you can do. Apple needs to fix their OS.
 
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MaxMike

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I have this problem too. I think Mac power management has just become awful. In addition to this my Mac takes several seconds to wake from sleep. The problem started in one of the last High Sierra updates. So, I don’t think there is anything you can do. Apple needs to fix their OS.

I had that problem on my 15" on High Sierra but my 13" on Mojave has been alright.

try resetting the SMC... and possibly the nvram as well (google for your particular macs)...

I'll give that a try. Can't remember the last time I reset them.
 

MaxMike

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in general, there's never a need to reset either, unless there is...

I went through resetting them plenty of times as "CPR" for my 2011 MBP. But I tried them and it unfortunately made no difference. Hopefully 10.14.2 isn't too far off or my iMac doesn't show this when it gets dropped off next week.
 

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Its USB, realistically, what did you expect? I depend on Thunderbolt drives. However, I have 1 USB 3 dualie running an ssd and a 5tb spinner. I get "Disk Not Ejected Properly" weekly. Just get used to it. Along with all the 2.4Ghz interference it spews out.
 

fisherking

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Its USB, realistically, what did you expect? I depend on Thunderbolt drives. However, I have 1 USB 3 dualie running an ssd and a 5tb spinner. I get "Disk Not Ejected Properly" weekly. Just get used to it. Along with all the 2.4Ghz interference it spews out.

no, don't get used to it, see if you can resolve it; contact apple perhaps.

all my drives are usb (for YEARS), and i've rarely seen that message.
 
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neliason

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Its USB, realistically, what did you expect? I depend on Thunderbolt drives. However, I have 1 USB 3 dualie running an ssd and a 5tb spinner. I get "Disk Not Ejected Properly" weekly. Just get used to it. Along with all the 2.4Ghz interference it spews out.

There is no reason to expect this as normal behavior and just accept it. The hardware isn’t the problem. The problem is poor software from Apple.
 

MaxMike

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Its USB, realistically, what did you expect? I depend on Thunderbolt drives. However, I have 1 USB 3 dualie running an ssd and a 5tb spinner. I get "Disk Not Ejected Properly" weekly. Just get used to it. Along with all the 2.4Ghz interference it spews out.

I could deal with once weekly if that was the case and attribute it to bumping the cable or something. But this eveytime I put my Mac to sleep and come back to it a few hours later? (see attached)
 

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Its USB, realistically, what did you expect? I depend on Thunderbolt drives. However, I have 1 USB 3 dualie running an ssd and a 5tb spinner. I get "Disk Not Ejected Properly" weekly. Just get used to it. Along with all the 2.4Ghz interference it spews out.
There's nothing normal about this, and there's no reason anyone should get used to it.
 

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Metoos! my usb devices never want to eject as well this year when all applications and other excuses are closed. im having more issues with plugging in devices usb devices and photo card that i never did last year. 2018 was a bad year for my apple products, like the weather in california.
 

Ray2

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Metoos! my usb devices never want to eject as well this year when all applications and other excuses are closed. im having more issues with plugging in devices usb devices and photo card that i never did last year. 2018 was a bad year for my apple products, like the weather in california.
Yes, that's another "benefit" we get with USB 3.1. With my USB drive mounted, it takes three times as long to shutdown and boot times sure feel much longer as well. Fortunately it's off most of the time.
 

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What model enclosure is it?
Its probably a compatibility issue with macOS which needs to be patched with firmware. I have an ORICO enclosure which disconnects itself on macs when its idle but perfectly fine when theres data being transferred. Because I don't have the ability to change the timeout value I ended up writing a shell script that writes a single letter to a text file on the drive every few seconds which prevents it from going to sleep.
 

neliason

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What model enclosure is it?
Its probably a compatibility issue with macOS which needs to be patched with firmware.

I have problems with a Western Digital, Seagate and Samsung SSD drive. These are very common drives built by major manufacturers. The problem isn’t that those manufacturers have problematic firmware. The problem is macOS is, sadly, buggy.
 
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I have problems with a Western Digital, Seagate and Samsung SSD drive. These are very common drives built by major manufacturers. The problem isn’t that those manufacturers have problematic firmware. The problem is macOS is, sadly, buggy.

the problem is that you have a problem, since not everyone has that issue. why do people think everything is a universal issue, if not everyone has that issue? :confused:
 

neliason

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the problem is that you have a problem, since not everyone has that issue. why do people think everything is a universal issue, if not everyone has that issue? :confused:

I didn't say it was a universal problem. I said it was a problem with macOS. Many problems in software aren't universal problems. That doesn't mean they aren't problems.
 

fisherking

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I didn't say it was a universal problem. I said it was a problem with macOS. Many problems in software aren't universal problems. That doesn't mean they aren't problems.

saying it's a problem with the OS is saying it's universal (ie it's not a 'problem i'm having, it's a problem with the OS'... which we all use, and, by definition, would then affect all, or most of us.

since this is not the case, it IS a problem you're having (and one worth pursuing a solution for). good luck!
 

neliason

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saying it's a problem with the OS is saying it's universal (ie it's not a 'problem i'm having, it's a problem with the OS'... which we all use, and, by definition, would then affect all, or most of us.

since this is not the case, it IS a problem you're having (and one worth pursuing a solution for). good luck!

I don’t think so. Saying it is a problem with the OS is just saying it is a problem with the OS. I am pretty confident it isn’t a hardware problem because it didn’t happen before but started happening with an OS upgrade. And if it is a hardware problem it is a Mac hardware problem since it happens with many different USB drives by different manufacturers.

Being an OS problem doesn’t mean everyone is effected. If someone doesn’t have any USB drives then he’d never experience the problem. It might also be that only certain configurations or Mac models experience the problem. But if the fix is in updating the operating system code then it is an OS problem.
 

fisherking

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I don’t think so. Saying it is a problem with the OS is just saying it is a problem with the OS. I am pretty confident it isn’t a hardware problem because it didn’t happen before but started happening with an OS upgrade. And if it is a hardware problem it is a Mac hardware problem since it happens with many different USB drives by different manufacturers.

Being an OS problem doesn’t mean everyone is effected. If someone doesn’t have any USB drives then he’d never experience the problem. It might also be that only certain configurations or Mac models experience the problem. But if the fix is in updating the operating system code then it is an OS problem.

how many people do you know who do not have usb drives? seriously. and if it isn't happening for all or most, it's a problem that some are having... and it's worth looking into.
 

neliason

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how many people do you know who do not have usb drives? seriously. and if it isn't happening for all or most, it's a problem that some are having... and it's worth looking into.

I would think many maybe most people have USB drives. But we have no way of knowing how prevalent the problem is. Many people could be experiencing the problem. They might not care about it. They might not tell anyone or post on a forum. They may not know then can submit a bug report that might be ignored for months.

I agree, it is worth looking into.
 

MaxMike

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What model enclosure is it?
Its probably a compatibility issue with macOS which needs to be patched with firmware. I have an ORICO enclosure which disconnects itself on macs when its idle but perfectly fine when theres data being transferred. Because I don't have the ability to change the timeout value I ended up writing a shell script that writes a single letter to a text file on the drive every few seconds which prevents it from going to sleep.

I'm using this enclosure from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F9VQ4XC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It has a 1TB Samsung 970 EVO SSD installed in it and is connected directly to a TB3 port, no hubs in between. No problems as long as my Mac doesn't go to sleep and the speeds fully saturate the 10Gbps link. I'll keep tabs on Samsung's site to see if they update the drive's firmware. Not sure if I'll see any support for the enclosure since searching the brand doesn't bring up any results other than the Amazon listings. This will probably turn into a secondary drive eventually since my photo library will fit on the local storage on my incoming iMac (couldn't go 256GB on the top-spec) and I keep trying to have iTunes network-attached but run into snags. But Mojave hasn't been bug-free for me since upgrading so I wouldn't be surprised if this gets fixed in an update (hopefully with SMB which I posted a separate thread about).
 

gigatoaster

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Hello there

I had these messages on my new Mac mini. Then, the disk was not recognized. I didn't have backups and lost all my music. Thankfully, I realized the Toshiba External HDD was still working on USB 2.0 on my old MBA from 2011. It took me a full Sunday to backup 1 TB at USB 2.0 into a new HDD. I bought 2 to backup the backup.

But yeah, you're not the only have problem and don't pay attention to people that say "only you have a problem". When people say there is a problem just trust them or avoid posting to tell them they are wrong:

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LuisN

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While I wait for my new iMac and SMB gives me some issues, I bought a 1TB 970 EVO and a 10Gbps USB-C enclosure from Amazon and it's plugged into one of the right-side Thunderbolt 3 ports on my tbMBP. Over the past few weeks I've had it, I almost always get spammed with the "Disk Not Ejected Properly" warning when I wake it from sleep or even just wake up the screen after a few minutes on inactivity. There's usually so many of them piled on the side of the screen I have to log out and log back in to clear the side of my screen. Tried unchecking "Put hard disks to sleep when possible" and that had no effect. Anyone have any ideas to try and clear this up?
Download Amphetamine from the App Store (free) and use the option "Drive Alive" to wake your drives at chosen interval
 
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fisherking

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Hello there

I had these messages on my new Mac mini. Then, the disk was not recognized. I didn't have backups and lost all my music. Thankfully, I realized the Toshiba External HDD was still working on USB 2.0 on my old MBA from 2011. It took me a full Sunday to backup 1 TB at USB 2.0 into a new HDD. I bought 2 to backup the backup.

But yeah, you're not the only have problem and don't pay attention to people that say "only you have a problem". When people say there is a problem just trust them or avoid posting to tell them they are wrong:

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hahaha. wait... what? if you're referring to me, am not suggesting only one person is having this problem; maybe there are hundreds. am only pointing out that there may not be millions... if a problem exists, it exists. and it's worth getting help (from apple, or from forums like this).
 
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