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Is copilot subscription better value than ChatGPT subscription through the App Store?
Different use cases. Think of Copilot as specific to code generation and its integrated to the IDE (integrated developement environment). If you used ChatGPT, you would have to copy and past the answer into your code software. Copilot is integrated, with automatic code complete, and can find where in the code your answer needs to go for you.
 
I’ve been using Codeium with Xcode for the past few months. It’s free (although there is a pro tier you can sign up to if you like). It’s a good way to see if you can benefit from these AI tools without forking out for the privilege.
 
Is CoPilot using openAI o1 preview or o1 mini or is it 4o?
4o by default but it is going to become multi model soon and support o1, Claude 3.5 as well as Gemini. The user will be able to change the model freely and even during a conversation in case one model doesn’t perform as expected.
 
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Xcode’s native code generation is ok.
Sometimes suggestions are amazing, sometimes very time saving, sometimes generate errors.

Not too sure I’d need copilot with this in place for Swift
 
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I'm a bit sceptical about this after trying the Copilot plugin in VS Code for (mainly front-end) web development earlier this year.

I had to disable it again, because the suggestions from copilot were highly opinionated and - more often than not - wrong.

Now, since that I've started using ChatGPT a lot more, and - especially in the paid version - the 4o with Canvas looks promising, but unfinished, and o1 preview is a whole lot better than "regular" 4o for most things front-end programming.

For anyone using Copilot regularly: Has the it become better over the last 6-8 months? If so I might give it another try... :)
 


Popular AI coding tool Copilot is now available for Xcode as part of a public preview, GitHub announced today. Apple developers can use Copilot for coding assistance directly in Xcode, which GitHub says will help developers boost productivity, speed up development, and enhance their overall coding experience.

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GitHub Copilot for Xcode offers multiple useful features.
  • Code completions with real-time code suggestions.
  • Multi-language support, including Swift and Objective-C.
  • Multiline suggestions for code.
  • Content filtering to ensure all code recommendations adhere to professional standards.
  • Option to block suggestions matching public code.
Xcode users who have a Copilot license can use Copilot for Xcode by installing the Copilot extension. As of right now, the feature is available in a preview capacity and GitHub is soliciting feedback from developers.

Copilot is priced starting at $10 per month or $100 per year.

Article Link: GitHub Brings Copilot to Xcode
Swift assist coming in today’s beta
 
I'm a bit sceptical about this after trying the Copilot plugin in VS Code for (mainly front-end) web development earlier this year.

I had to disable it again, because the suggestions from copilot were highly opinionated and - more often than not - wrong.

Now, since that I've started using ChatGPT a lot more, and - especially in the paid version - the 4o with Canvas looks promising, but unfinished, and o1 preview is a whole lot better than "regular" 4o for most things front-end programming.

For anyone using Copilot regularly: Has the it become better over the last 6-8 months? If so I might give it another try... :)

chatgpt only good for getting pattern matching from related github or else . I forget where i see their referencing the sample code .

If the repo is private , it will not refer to it as we tested.

Blackbox ai also good generated idea code .

For me , i just use free version chatgpt. Have paid before copilot but not satisfied with the prompt .

Chatgpt at least remember the prev discussion.

I dont rely 100% auto generated ai code because it can be buggy and not existance method /function. Always refer to documentation or drill down the source code if need more information .
 
In contrast to all Siri & Apple Intelligence bashing, I think the new Xcode with its native smart completion is quite useful and really helpful in my everyday life.

but seem a bit struggle new xcode for my m1 . Not sure because new smart completion or else . I thinking to get m4 mini 😅. I hope whatever ai there smoothly on xcode
 
Everyone needs a copilot. I never take off at the start of the day without one. In my car they are superb, if I don’t turn the steering wheel enough, they autocomplete and do it for me. Same for indicators and brakes.

Then when I get to the office it autocompletes my work too.

Then when works over, I exchange my copilot for a wingman and hit the town. Although it doesnt autocomplete, I still have a great time and mostly get back home in one piece,
 
I dont rely 100% auto generated ai code because it can be buggy and not existance method /function. Always refer to documentation or drill down the source code if need more information .
Oh, I don't trust it at all.

Everyone really, really needs to test and double-check everything that comes out of an LLM. :D

But it can be helpful setting up examples, but then when I go through those examples I do a mix of "quarrelling" with ChatGPT and - as you say - checking the actual documentation, often citing the docs to CheatGPT (genuine typo :p), and when it works as intended - and only then - I use the examples in class.
 
Everyone needs a copilot. I never take off at the start of the day without one. In my car they are superb, if I don’t turn the steering wheel enough, they autocomplete and do it for me. Same for indicators and brakes.

Then when I get to the office it autocompletes my work too.

Then when works over, I exchange my copilot for a wingman and hit the town. Although it doesnt autocomplete, I still have a great time and mostly get back home in one piece,

Watch out, ultimately the goal is to make your copilot replace you.
 
Is copilot subscription better value than ChatGPT subscription through the App Store?
Without any context no one can really give you a definitive answer. What are you trying to do?

This topic is about development tools btw.

I prefer M365 Copilot over ChatGPT because it cites its sources, so you can confirm the answer is correct. All of these search congregation tools make stuff up at times, and without a citation, you don't have the confidence in the answer. It also works in other tools as well.
 
CoPilot is specific to coding. GitHub has hundreds of millions of users. It's already been proven.
GitHub Copilot is. There are other products from Microsoft with Copilot in the name which are not specific to coding. I'm not sure why the article doesn't use clear language, when the citation they use states the actual product name.
 
That's interesting.... I use CoPilot under Visual Studio and VSCode for various languages and find it quite useful. It's actually kind of amazing when you highlight code and ask it to explain it. Since I already have a subscription on the Windows side, it will nice to be able to double-duty it in Xcode.
 
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Oh yes. When I got up this morning, the first thought that came to mind was, "What piece of Redmond bloatware do I want to install on my machines today."
 
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Been using it in a private codebase all day. Seems to get in the way more than it helps. Doesn't seem to suggest anything that doesn't already exist in the current file. Underwhelmed so far. Will give it another few days.
 
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Im a iOS/macOS dev myself.
For anyone that actually used Copilot, is it any good and worth the subscription?
I hate subscriptions, but if it will help me release things faster while keeping my code integrity, it might be a good thing for me. Idk yet.
Wait for swift assist bro…
 
Different use cases. Think of Copilot as specific to code generation and its integrated to the IDE (integrated developement environment). If you used ChatGPT, you would have to copy and past the answer into your code software. Copilot is integrated, with automatic code complete, and can find where in the code your answer needs to go for you.
Can you still talk to it conversationally about what you're trying to do?
 
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