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give me a reason to get a mac

Oh yeah I forgot to mention. On the topic of spyware, no-one in their right mind should use Microsoft Internet Explorer on ANY platform unless it is essential for some compatibility issue (or company policy)... it's antiquated and is the #1 target for spyware/virus writers.

Safari on OS X and Firefox on XP/OS X/Linux are better choices.
 
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honestly- a PC is just as good as a mac..i have been using both for 20yrs...
there really is no difference between the two if you are doing commond computing tasks. Outside of great industrial design from apple- note how successful ailenware PC's sell due to their branding- if you are not running CAD apps or 3d games the bottom line is the cash you have to spend.

I would take the money that you are considering blowing on a mac and just put into a stock fund-because at this rate you will come out ahead in the end long after your college days are over.

Mac people are fanatical as shown here on this board...any besides- isn;'t the best selling product from apple a consumer device anyway??? 😛
 
PCMacUser said:
Oh yeah I forgot to mention. On the topic of spyware, no-one in their right mind should use Microsoft Internet Explorer on ANY platform unless it is essential for some compatibility issue (or company policy)... it's antiquated and is the #1 target for spyware/virus writers.
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Obviously you haven't tried IE on Windows XP SP-2. It now requires that the user authorize installation of ANYTHING requested by a web page... this is even true for Microsoft's utilities (such as the Office Update detection engine). Since I updated to this, not one piece of spyware has managed to install itself on my systems.
 
markomark said:
honestly- a PC is just as good as a mac..i have been using both for 20yrs...
there really is no difference between the two if you are doing commond computing tasks. Outside of great industrial design from apple- note how successful ailenware PC's sell due to their branding- if you are not running CAD apps or 3d games the bottom line is the cash you have to spend.

I would take the money that you are considering blowing on a mac and just put into a stock fund-because at this rate you will come out ahead in the end long after your college days are over.

Mac people are fanatical as shown here on this board...any besides- isn;'t the best selling product from apple a consumer device anyway??? 😛
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Hmm... last time I checked, viruses, worms, and spyware had quite an effect on common tasks 😉 I agree, PCs can be good too, but only if it's not running Windows.
 
clayjohanson said:
Obviously you haven't tried IE on Windows XP SP-2. It now requires that the user authorize installation of ANYTHING requested by a web page... this is even true for Microsoft's utilities (such as the Office Update detection engine). Since I updated to this, not one piece of spyware has managed to install itself on my systems.
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I still say IE sucks, mainly because of the fact that MS refuses to conform to W3C web standards, and the fact that it can't properly render PNG files...
 
clayjohanson said:
Obviously you haven't tried IE on Windows XP SP-2. It now requires that the user authorize installation of ANYTHING requested by a web page... this is even true for Microsoft's utilities (such as the Office Update detection engine). Since I updated to this, not one piece of spyware has managed to install itself on my systems.
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Yep I do have IE for SP2. The point I was trying to make was that it is TARGETED by hackers, etc. Whenever MS bring something new out, people try to figure a way to hack it/find vulnerabilities. That's all. Microsoft has done a lot of hard work to make their software safer - I've witnessed a lot of developments at Microsoft's 3 day TechEd security seminars - but the fact remains that they will always be the first to be hacked.
 
markomark said:
Mac people are fanatical as shown here on this board...any besides- isn;'t the best selling product from apple a consumer device anyway??? 😛
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Hehe, both points you make are true.

People always need something to believe in, whether it is a political ideology, a religion or whatever. Apple-fanatacism fills this void for many people. They want to run into the streets and tell strangers how their lives would be so much better and happier if they bought an Apple product. But this is what kept Apple in business during their dark years... 😀

I mostly deal with the ugly side (hardware and software faults) of computers - whether it be Apple or PC... so I'm a platform agnostic heheh...
 
thanks for everyone's response. 😎 i'm just gonna think about it and wait it out til this summer. but keep the opinions coming if you have something to say 🙂
 
PCMacUser said:
Yep I do have IE for SP2. The point I was trying to make was that it is TARGETED by hackers, etc. Whenever MS bring something new out, people try to figure a way to hack it/find vulnerabilities. That's all. Microsoft has done a lot of hard work to make their software safer - I've witnessed a lot of developments at Microsoft's 3 day TechEd security seminars - but the fact remains that they will always be the first to be hacked.
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"The foolish man builds his house upon the sand..."

Somehow I am constantly reminded of that weird song I learned in childhood about the foolish man choosing to build his house upon the sand who later gets stuffed when the rains start coming. he learns a valuable lesson on how foundations, newtons laws, really can get you if you don't pay attention to all the details.

How is this relevant? Microsoft has built their system (or stole bits and pieces of technology from smaller firms then told them to piss off) on the sand. They built a system that is easy to target for hackers. I mean c'mon who honestly wasn't smoking crack when they thought "hey we can really kill netscape here cuz we can integrate our web browser into the core OS...this won't be used surreptiously at all in the future...(tongue in cheek)..." but the high level of coupling in their system is the reason they get hacked so bad all the time. They are just learning that some vestige of priviledge separation, which comes for free on all Unix systems, is really there for a reason. And yes you take a performance hit running apps in user space vs. kernel space but hey if something nasty happens you have a much better chance of shutting down the errant process.

There was some really fantastic quote about this on the web, maybe it was on slashdot. "Those who do not understand UNIX are forced to reimplement it...and poorly."

Which is why LongHorn or LongHorn++ is going to be a microkernel UNIX system under the hood running multiple virtual instances of a WindowsLegacyClient. There is a reason they bought out Connectix for big $$$, they have a strategic marketing vision I am sure. They have to get away from the existing codebase man it is just too much for anybody (except the hackers looking for exploits) to maintain anymore.

-jaromski
 
Lacero said:
IS this thread made to waste our time with you?
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not at all. i'm seriously debating on getting a mac this summer. sorry i didn't respond this weekend b/c i was out of town.

there were 2 ibooks in my class today. i was sitting beside a guy with a 12". he was watching a movie before class started. it seemed he paused the movie, started listening to itunes (with headphones), was checking his email, and talking on yahoo im. i had my eye on the computer, and it looked pretty sweet. i can't get over how the OS looks and stuff. it looks so smooth.
 
Just get one

I am a It Manager for a health group. I have never really been a true member of the windows, linux, mac camps... I just use learn what is popular... but after too much patching and repairing work and home machines, I decided to try something different.

I bought this powerbook on the 19th.. It is truley Awesome. My favorite part is the fact that "sleep" actually works on these macs. Sleep would Always **** up and force a reboot on my old machines. I haven't turned this computer off in 9 days. I just shut the lid and goes to sleep. I just open it up and i am rolling.

They only sucky thing is the fact that you have to learn where everything is... At first I didn't like the way that I had to learn an entirely new keboard shortcut to minimuze windows, or the way things behave differently... but now that i am familiar with it I absolutely LOVE this OS and the build quality of this powerbook

However,
I am still uneasy over not utilizing AV... but it's quite nice.
Hope this helps.
 
thanks for the response. maybe i will eventually convert. if i do get once, i'm sure if i should get a mac mini or a powerbook. but before i decide that, i want to just get other's opinions and stuff
 
yeah, I hope my posts helped you, but I had no idea when I posted that link to my website that by now over 60 of you would go and download my movies! I guess that sounds naive now, but really I didn't expect that that many complete strangers would be interested. Just to be abundantly clear, the movies are JOKES, inside jokes between my friends and I, as my rampant overuse (is there any other kind) of the Ken Burns effects should suggest.

The first one was made on my old G3 iMac with iMovie 3 (painfully slow) and the second was slapped out on the PowerBook with iMovie 4. The footage was shot with a Canon PowerShot S400 (still) camera in 320x240 movie mode.

If nothing else, I think the point stands that even someone like me who knows nothing about video editing can put something together in a short time with iMovie that at least amuses his friends. But for those of you out there that sat through them expecting something worthwhile ... I apologize!
 
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