I game on console, currently PS4 and will switch to PS5 or PS6. Can't imagine using a PC for gaming as I wouldn't want to have to think about system requirements and such. If a game is released for my console, I know I can play it, it's straightforward and I don't have to tweak settings or think about whether something on my computer can corrupt the game file.
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Giving up PC for console?
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Precisely. It all depends on pricing but if rumours are to be believed, the next Xbox could cost around 1000, the PS6 people think will be 500 to 700, and this Steam Machine could be the same or possibly nearer the 500 mark. If it performs well enough then it opens the floodgates, cause one thing I know is games on Steam are CHEAP! I have my PS5 and yes you get discounts, but not on games at lunch where as on Steam you can buy a key for a lot less then retail at launch for the same game. I am certainly intrigued by it. Plus being so small I could fit it in easily anywhere, on my desk or next to the TV. If Valve gets support from devs for anti cheat well, then I can see Xbox going for good and Sony being a bit damaged. Nintendo ironically surviving due to the vice like grip they have on their IP, the total opposite to Sony and Xbox.
Following the price hikes to Game Pass we sold our Xbox Series X and got a PS5 Digital Slim the new one as Argos in the UK at the time were doing a deal on it where was £329 so we did not lose out from swapping over.
We save money monthly on the Game Pass vs the PS+ and seem to enjoy it more, the GUI I find is a lot nicer, the controllers about the same.
My PC is now coming up on 6 years old, its a 2080ti with a R3 3900X so no slouch but its struggling with 4K gaming, plus the only games I really play is World of Warcraft and Civ 6.
My next desktop machine is likely to be a Mac Studio, not that I need that power, but I do some video editing for some desktop games we play, also makes my office a lot quieter lol. I am also getting on in years and spending hours in my office chair is not ideal, not when could go game on a comfy arm chair lol
We save money monthly on the Game Pass vs the PS+ and seem to enjoy it more, the GUI I find is a lot nicer, the controllers about the same.
My PC is now coming up on 6 years old, its a 2080ti with a R3 3900X so no slouch but its struggling with 4K gaming, plus the only games I really play is World of Warcraft and Civ 6.
My next desktop machine is likely to be a Mac Studio, not that I need that power, but I do some video editing for some desktop games we play, also makes my office a lot quieter lol. I am also getting on in years and spending hours in my office chair is not ideal, not when could go game on a comfy arm chair lol
That's what I went with, and its more then enough power with the M4. If you can wait until the M5 Extreme comes out, then that machine will be a beast and should be comparable with a high end 50 series gpu, maybe even the 5090 (all conjecture at this point).
I am in the process of moving house, then need to convert the new garage into a home office, so not looking to do the swap till probably March/April next year by which point should have a better idea about the M5 Studio
I went to PC after the gamepass disaster and man, I forgot how tedious is a PC to just play a game. That graphics options, drivers things, fans things, BIOS things, etc, etc.
When I was a child I used a combination of console and PC (PS1 and then Xblox Classic), then I went full PC with just portable consoles (PSP). In 2017 we bought a PS4 and that was the beginning of my console journey that ended with the sell of my Series X due to gamepass price hikes.
Bought a 9060XT (upgraded from a 1070) paired with a 5600G and 16GB of RAM. Its a really good GPU that move all in a good way (1440p) but then I bought some fans for the case.. I bought them with 3 pins instead 4 pins so I can't control the speed so they are really loud. Then my RAM is DDR4 and the processor is AM4 so, if want to upgrade the CPU, I need to buy mobo, RAM and CPU.. Was really scared about the need of upgrade the power supply but thankfully, the GPU has around the same consumption as my old 1070 so all good. There is also that f.cking Windows with the urgent to update to windows 11 (i have windows 10 and no, i dont want to install windows 11 on my PC gamer Microsoft).
I don't know man. I remember just hitting the Xbox button in the controller that turned on the TV and the Xbox, choose a game and just play. The initial configuration for a PC is just not as simple and at this age, I just want a simple experience. I usually connect the PC to the TV in the living room but then, the sound is set to go out in my monitor so, I need to config that to go out in the TV before playing a game. I just can't hit the button and thats all
I stick with the PC for a while because the investment in the GPU but probably I will just buy a console in a couple of years, I don't know.
When I was a child I used a combination of console and PC (PS1 and then Xblox Classic), then I went full PC with just portable consoles (PSP). In 2017 we bought a PS4 and that was the beginning of my console journey that ended with the sell of my Series X due to gamepass price hikes.
Bought a 9060XT (upgraded from a 1070) paired with a 5600G and 16GB of RAM. Its a really good GPU that move all in a good way (1440p) but then I bought some fans for the case.. I bought them with 3 pins instead 4 pins so I can't control the speed so they are really loud. Then my RAM is DDR4 and the processor is AM4 so, if want to upgrade the CPU, I need to buy mobo, RAM and CPU.. Was really scared about the need of upgrade the power supply but thankfully, the GPU has around the same consumption as my old 1070 so all good. There is also that f.cking Windows with the urgent to update to windows 11 (i have windows 10 and no, i dont want to install windows 11 on my PC gamer Microsoft).
I don't know man. I remember just hitting the Xbox button in the controller that turned on the TV and the Xbox, choose a game and just play. The initial configuration for a PC is just not as simple and at this age, I just want a simple experience. I usually connect the PC to the TV in the living room but then, the sound is set to go out in my monitor so, I need to config that to go out in the TV before playing a game. I just can't hit the button and thats all
I stick with the PC for a while because the investment in the GPU but probably I will just buy a console in a couple of years, I don't know.
What do you mean bios? I never needed to keep messing with my fans after the initial setup.
Once I have my fan curve setup on my PC, its done, no need to change. After I built my PC, I did go into the bios, to tweak it (totally optional). As for graphic options - each game configures what it thinks is the best for you. You can tweak it, or ignore it
I can't remember a time when I had to mess with much of the Pc's configuration after buying a game. I will be completely honest, when buying a game, I will tweak its graphic settings. I prefer lower fidelity if that will buy me higher FPS. I also don't care for ray trace, and the overhead it brings to the table. This configuration takes all of 2 minutes in any new game and its a change once and never mess with it again.
The 9060 is a decent GPU, 5600g is a midrange processor. You still have plenty of options for zen 4 processors. 5800x3d (very pricey at this point), 5700x3d (I'd get this one) and 5700 X
Not to be cold, or mean, but your earlier comment about fans and managing them is directly related to your buying the DC fans (3 pin) as they're more limited to managing. Also without knowing any details, the type of case you're using and cpu cooler plays directly into your PC's ability to cool itself and a fans capability. I opted for an oversized cpu cooler from noctua along with their case fans. I recommend getting some PWM noctua fans, also review how your air flows in the case, i.e., is it restricted and use a better cpu cooler. The cpu cooler that comes with AMD cpus can be fine, but I think if you upgrade it, your cooling will improve to the point where fan noise will be a thing of the past (especially when using PWM fans).
The 5600XT is also fine (I got one for my child's pc to go along with the 3060ti they are using). Montech also makes pretty good air coolers for CPU's and they are muuuuch cheaper than Noctua (I say this as a Noctua fan user).
I have been a 'PC gamer' since the Apple ][+ and have always been predominantly PC with probably my heaviest gaming between 1995 - 2010 and 2022-now. I played loads of games on my Macs during the '95-'10 period as for me that time period was the 'golden age' of Mac gaming ... now is the opposite of that.
Aside from PC gaming I've always loved portable gaming - so I had handhelds starting with original GameBoy in '89, then GBA and SP in ~2001, PSP, DS, PS Vita and then Switch. Still play some games (early Legend of Heroes Trails games) on PS Vita and Switch. Portable also means moving to laptops around 2000 with Powerbook Pismo and Toshiba Tecra then Dell Inspiron/XPS and Powerbooks, and so on.
Now my 'PC gaming' means Steam Deck. I pre-ordered the first one and was in the initial batch of the LCD and OLED models and they make up >95% of my gaming at this point. And they are wonderful - playing The Outer Worlds 2 now perfect 'out of the box'.
Aside from PC gaming I've always loved portable gaming - so I had handhelds starting with original GameBoy in '89, then GBA and SP in ~2001, PSP, DS, PS Vita and then Switch. Still play some games (early Legend of Heroes Trails games) on PS Vita and Switch. Portable also means moving to laptops around 2000 with Powerbook Pismo and Toshiba Tecra then Dell Inspiron/XPS and Powerbooks, and so on.
Now my 'PC gaming' means Steam Deck. I pre-ordered the first one and was in the initial batch of the LCD and OLED models and they make up >95% of my gaming at this point. And they are wonderful - playing The Outer Worlds 2 now perfect 'out of the box'.
The member has a 5600G, not the 5600xt
the 5600xt cpu has more cache, is PCIe 4 (the 5600G is PCIe 3). The 5600g tends to be more budge level computers where the 5600xt is a good processor for gaming given the 2x cache allotment (over the 5600g)
Yes, I got the point about the BIOS that you only need to set it up at the first boot but again, you don't need to do that with a console. Also, did you see the Secure boot/ TPM 2.0 thing with Battlefield 6?
Yes, the thumbnail and the title are not the best but the content is good and his point is really valid in my opinion.
I don't worry, you are not being mean or something like that. It was my fault of not knowing about these different types of fans. But again, do you need to be aware of PMW or DC fans with a console? Do you need to care about graphics with a console? Do you need to worry about going to BIOS to see if Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 is enabled in order to play Battlefield 6 with your Xbox/PS5 friends?
Believe me, I'm not that tech insane guy but I know about these things (except the fans..glad those were cheap). It's just going from a console experience where you usually don't care about all these thing to a PC where caring about all these things is needed. Maybe I just need to relax a little and just enjoy the PC again.
After all, Helldivers 2 works and look much better than my Xbox Series X.
Thank you for the recommendation about Noctua fans and the processor update. Will see if I can update for one of those next year and that's all. Those RAM prices are no thank you for me, 16Gb is enough for now
Microsoft Flight Sim coming to PS5 has me looking at one of those again honestly, especially as they are going to bring PSVR2 support for it.
I echo the thoughts from @aespana above.
For gaming stuff, I simply don't want to spend time with settings and updates and endless options. I just don't enjoy that part anymore.
I echo the thoughts from @aespana above.
For gaming stuff, I simply don't want to spend time with settings and updates and endless options. I just don't enjoy that part anymore.
I haven't played BF6, I mostly play single play RPG and simulation type games. I think there could also be issues with various kernel anti-cheat technology in some games but my gaming style is such I haven't run into that.
Make sense. Yeah, I heard the also Valorant and Fornite I think also require that kind of security level to install their anti-cheat systems.. That is madness in my opinion.
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So in a bit of a twist, a PS5 has been introduced into the lineup. Not totally mine but can use it. Just the regular model with the disc drive. No PS4 games on hand.
In another surprise found that we could just plug the thing in, not connect it to the Internet and play the included astro not game and didn't even to connect to play resident evil 2 that I knew of.
Kind of strange I guess considering I'm also a steam user.
In another surprise found that we could just plug the thing in, not connect it to the Internet and play the included astro not game and didn't even to connect to play resident evil 2 that I knew of.
Kind of strange I guess considering I'm also a steam user.