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Gizmodo not allowed at the WWDC...

Tilpots said:
You don't invite the guy who robbed your house to the party. You just don't.
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I agree with this for the most part. More of you don't invite a friend who beat you up to your birthday party.
And didn't everyone fight over this a while ago?🙄
 
quagmire said:
http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone
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Notice the "UPDATED" tags. I don't believe the original unedited article stated the names behind the events.

quagmire said:
They thought it could be fake( would be skeptical myself). By plugging it in to the computer, they verified it was in fact a real iPhone. So now they know it was an actual iPhone. This iPhone though had a different product identifiers. Another hint that this was indeed a prototype they had in their possession.
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You can spoof identifiers, and if someone were trying to sell fake iPhones, they would likely emulate that. The Pre did this in order to get iTunes to sync.

So they could either have an imitation or the next prototype. At this point, it's not totally clear.

quagmire said:
I didn't say the investigation is complete. I just said gizmodo didn't do their job to make sure it wasn't stolen because they said it themselves that the phone was lost at a bar and the founder sold it to them.

They only returned it to Apple after they got a letter saying it was theirs so they could publish it on their site for everyone to see that Apple themselves said it was Apple's.
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True, and at that point, they knew it was an Apple device. This was way past the point of delivering dollars for the device, hence the investigation to determine if it was criminal or not.
 
jdm111 said:
Oh yeah? and what about that idiot Captain Chen pulling stupid stunts like this?
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the whole comment section is like that they banned everybody who said anything negative against what Gizmodo did and promoted everyone who is against Apple. Gizmodo is the TMZ of tech news.

Already they do very little tech reporting. Now they are not going to be attending major events. I wonder how long the site is going to last.
 
belvdr said:
Notice the "UPDATED" tags. I don't believe the original unedited article stated the names behind the events.
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Notice the date of original publishing is April 19th.

MR posted that article here containing the engineers name, etc.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/900754/

So gizmodo didn't add the names behind the event at a later date.



You can spoof identifiers, and if someone were trying to sell fake iPhones, they would likely emulate that. The Pre did this in order to get iTunes to sync.

So they could either have an imitation or the next prototype. At this point, it's not totally clear.
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Not clear, but not definite proof that it wasn't a prototype. The external case had codes that Apple uses for their prototypes. Evidence like the codes and how OS X and iTunes behaved and shown on the screen was showing it was a real Apple prototype. And they still went ahead and published it.

They said in their own words they had the prototype for a week. So it wasn't like they were publishing as they were going on with playing with the device. They knew it was real when they started to publish the articles. So they willingly published Apple's trade secrets. Even if the DA doesn't charge anyone with a crime, Apple can still sue gizmodo into the ground for that.
 
The sooner Gizmodo shuts down it's servers for good, the better.

Crap site that I never even used.

Think how differently things could have been had they returned the phone to Apple in return for some scoops in the future? Gizmodo could have done so many things differently, but they chose to rip the phone open and pimp it's guts to the world for everyone to see.
 
puffnstuff said:
the whole comment section is like that they banned everybody who said anything negative against what Gizmodo did and promoted everyone who is against Apple. Gizmodo is the TMZ of tech news.

Already they do very little tech reporting. Now they are not going to be attending major events. I wonder how long the site is going to last.
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I have a feeling that you got banned for being an ass. You came here and made the post and skimming threw it I saw a few more negative comments threw it. Just it looks like they are not going to put up with trolls making new accounts or people trolling.

New accounts get very little slack at a lot of places
 
WeegieMac said:
The sooner Gizmodo shuts down it's servers for good, the better.

Crap site that I never even used.

Think how differently things could have been had they returned the phone to Apple in return for some scoops in the future? Gizmodo could have done so many things differently, but they chose to rip the phone open and pimp it's guts to the world for everyone to see.
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It's called journalism. A journalist who doesn't investigate any leads is a bad one.
 
maflynn said:
Gizmodo did not rob, steal or take anything from apple. In fact when apple requested the phone back, gizmodo asked for the request to be in writing, once that occurred that complied.

So now because of an apple employee foolishly losing it at a bar, and gizmodo doing the news reporting thing and reported the details of the found phone. They are excluded from covering an apple event.

If that isn't being vindictive and petty I don't know what is. Jobs has a reputation of being vindictive, and apple appears to be getting that reputation.
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Gizmodo did rob, steal or take important thing from apple. When apple requested the phone back, gizmodo screwed apple while requesting to be in writing and published it. 😡 Apple should ban the criminal.
 
Whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty? 😕

Apple is going to wind up looking like the immature crybaby kid who gets mad and doesn't invite someone to their birthday party. I couldn't care less about Apple losing revenue over the leak, how many times have their customers been burned by a product launch a few weeks after buying a very expensive laptop/phone/etc.

The proper way to handle this was to ask Giz to return the phone, and thank them that the phone didn't wind up in the hands of a Chinese counterfeiting organization. 🙄
 
quagmire said:
Notice the date of original publishing is April 19th.

MR posted that article here containing the engineers name, etc.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/900754/

So gizmodo didn't add the names behind the event at a later date.





Not clear, but not definite proof that it wasn't a prototype. The external case had codes that Apple uses for their prototypes. Evidence like the codes and how OS X and iTunes behaved and shown on the screen was showing it was a real Apple prototype. And they still went ahead and published it.

They said in their own words they had the prototype for a week. So it wasn't like they were publishing as they were going on with playing the device. They knew it was real when they started to publish the articles. So they willingly published Apple's trade secrets. Even if the DA doesn't charge anyone with a crime, Apple can still sue gizmodo into the ground for that.
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Not to mention that upon receipt of the device from Gizmodo, Apple claims that there were a few things broken in it. A ribbon cable and a couple other things. Gizmodo has received stolen property, revealed trade secrets and damaged private property, among other things.
 
There seems to be some feeling that SJ has "thrown all his toys from the pram", and "spitefully rejected Gizmodo from their event".

I say good luck to them. That's exactly what I'd have done to a shameless adolescent group of petulant bloggers masquerading as journalists. I understand the remit of journalists going for the scoop, but the way they handled themselves was a little short of juvenile.

People seem to forget the fact that Apple also needs to make an example of them to protect themselves. If it was my company I'd tell gizmodo to go and suck on a bag of dicks.
 
yg17 said:
It's called journalism. A journalist who doesn't investigate any leads is a bad one.
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I know all too well how the media "should" and "does" work ... if you think US journalism is bad you should see how it operates in the UK!

I just think Gizmodo missed a genuine opportunity to become the Apple golden boys of the media/web. If Gizmodo had kept the next generation iPhone to themselves, they could have contacted Apple and negotiated it's return and non-disclosure in return for some major inside news as and when new products were coming.

Now, who's to say Apple would have been that forthcoming? We'll never know, and even if I suspect Jobs would have issued a "return it or else" ultimatum, then Gizmodo could have gone ahead and done what they did anyway, leading us to where we are today.
 
What made me remove Gizmodo from my RSS feed wasn't that they published photos of he prototype it was because of how they treated the Apple employee, that was very disrespectful.
 
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Gizmodo's letter to Apple is something that the appropriate people in the justice system will be able to deal with properly... even if Gizmodo has their too-cute-by-half spin version, heavy on the snark. /// I stopped reading that site. And now they didn't get invited to an Apple conference? How unfair! How sad! Boo. hoo! Oh,_____ (snarky lie)! Oh, _____ (sarcastic halftruth)! Oh, _______ (double snark double-axle spin)! //// Oh, stop.... you're breakin' my heart! The Gawker Corp., King of the victims! Too much.
 
WeegieMac said:
I just think Gizmodo missed a genuine opportunity to become the Apple golden boys of the media/web. If Gizmodo had kept the next generation iPhone to themselves, they could have contacted Apple and negotiated it's return and non-disclosure in return for some major inside news as and when new products were coming.
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When SJ said that Gizmodo tried to extort them (during the AllthingsD interview) I got the impression that the above is exactly what they did.
 
jdm111 said:
Oh yeah? and what about that idiot Captain Chen pulling stupid stunts like this?
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OK, I'm looking at this and what I see is some guy who opens his post by calling everyone at Gizmodo "********s." (and the rest of it looks about as meaningful) Now, I don't know about anyone else, but calling someone a ******** doesn't exactly scream maturity; In fact, it's pretty childish and got an equally as intelligent response. Seems fair to me. Also, if this is the quality of post being edited, and then posters being banned, I fail to see what the problem is.
 
Seriously? Banning people and editing their posts? How childish can Chen be? All this just takes away more credibility from Giz, if Giz even had any to begin with.
 
Apple has unique ability to make enemies. It seems to be at war with just every company out there. Eventually they will suffer from this attitude.
 
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