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DBZmusicboy01

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I am confused?

All it needs is skin contact and it knows?
so its an amazing device that measures diabetes ?
 

Thai

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Yep. If it's possible via perspiration Apple will figure it out and for people with diabetes it will be an enoumrous developement.

That may indeed be the most powerful weapon to attract NEW users (from Android and older folks)! It makes the iPhone and Apple Watch a NEED rather than a WANT. Just imagine being able to graph your sugar levels throughout the day and give warnings when it is too high or low...all without pricking your finger!

I also want Apple Watch to be able to measure oxygen level too...imagine the tool that it can be to sleep apnea or folks with lung disease! You can literally diagnose sleep apnea or monitor effectiveness of treatment!

Talk about Apple Watch being a game-changer or "killer" feature. I am excited about the future. If one or both are featured on S3, then i will finally be able to upgrade from my S0.
 
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Kyle76

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I use the Dexcom. It's a big reason I pulled the trigger on the watch. I can see my reading at a glance. Non-invasive would be great, but it's probably years away. Dexcom just got FDA approval to be able to say that dosing decisions can be made based on its readings, and it's been on the market for awhile.
 
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DeepIn2U

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Yep. If it's possible via perspiration Apple will figure it out and for people with diabetes it will be an enoumrous developement.

BUT ... how much perspiration is required for detection? Not sure about you or if this is a personal makeup and based on avg climate location etc but I don't normally perspire on cool days - Canadian Toronto 0-16/19 Celsius (no sun) or Sun and cool winds with appropriate clothes. Sorry I'm new to this BUT I know my mother would LOVE not having to poke her fingers.
 

galenmd

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I posted this in another thread. I am interested to see if anyone with the Dexcom has updated their watch to OS4, which should allow direct communication of the G5 transmitter to the watch, bypassing the phone. Though the betas of iOS11 and wOS4 are out, I do not know if the capability of WatchOS direct Bluetooth communication to devices has been yet activated, for Dexcom or otherwise
 
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mikemj23

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My guess is that Non-invasive glucose monitoring is years off, especially because of how difficult it is to get through the FDA. If it's close (within next 3 years) Apple would have been working on this for years.

I've worn a Dexcom sensor for years now and besides insulin it is the key tool for me when it comes to treating my diabetes. I cannot be without my glucose sensor, feels like I'm completely flying blind without it. The Dexcom sensor still requires a very thin piece of wire/filament (for lack of a better term) under the skin to measure glucose levels via interstitial fluid. The wire is inserted manually by the user via needle and then the needle is removed and the wire (which is inside the needle) is left under the skin and a wireless transmitter is attached.

As @galenmd mentioned, enabling direct BT communication between the transmitter of my sensor and the AW without the need for the iPhone to be the pass through is a major advance on it's own. Would love to know if watchOS 4 beta 1 enables this.

I pray that Apple is working on non-invasive glucose monitoring and that it is close. Close to me would be within the next 5 years. There is no doubt that if Apple integrates this technology into a band or the Watch itself, it would cross the company into a whole new product category. iPhones, iPads, Apple Watches are one thing, but adding functionality to improve the lives of users with chronic diseases would be a game changer.
 
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galenmd

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According to a recent interview with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer, the software for direct Bluetooth communication between the watch and the G5 sensor is yet to be fully developed.

As quoted in 9-to-5 Mac:
Hardware-wise it’s ready to go… what we will have to do is once the new OS for the Watch comes out, we’ll have to fine tune our app and get it ready and make sure it works… Then we’ll submit our app to the FDA for review… We absolutely will support the feature.. We will give patients the ability to see their data directly on the Watch… for the current G5 system and systems after that…

I believe we will continue to have set up with the phone app… a patient doesn’t have to enter data that often… they have to enter a couple calibrations a day… Those things are to be worked out during our human factors testing and our discussions with the FDA, in addition to our discussions with Apple.
He also confirmed that there are no advances in non-invasive glucose monitoring. If Apple can figure that out, that would change the world.
 
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