Gmail accounts + Apple Watch. Major issues with notifications.

[fs454]

So I'm hitting a pretty big snag here with timely notifications on the watch. My company email runs through Google Apps, as well as my personal email that isn't my iCloud mail. Something doesn't seem to be supported correctly with Gmail addresses and Apple's stock iOS mail app as you never quite get push notifications or emails instantly like you do with the Gmail iOS app. This hasn't been a big deal on the phone as you're constantly checking and refreshing, but it kind of sucks big time now that its possible to receive them immediately, and being in the music / film industry we need to be 100% on top of things in real time.

You're left with two options on the Watch:


1. Use the stock Mail notifications, be able to read the entire email, but receive them in chunks 30+ minutes later than they arrive.

2. Use the Gmail app's push notifications, receive them the second they come in, but only read the first two lines with your only option being to "dismiss".


Why is there such an issue with Gmail and iOS Mail? Is this something likely to be solved or am I overlooking something here? There's such a tangible possibility to have this be smooth but it totally isn't. It's really my only gripe with the watch, it's been incredible otherwise.

 

[melman101]

Sadly you are right on.

However, if you use Google Apps for business, you can set up the Google email as an exchange account on iOS mail and get instant push notifications.

Sadly, if you are using a personal gmail.com, Google ended support for that a long time ago :-(. I have yet to decide what I'm going to do myself.

https://support.google.com/a/answer/135937?hl=en

 

[fs454]

Sadly you are right on.

However, if you use Google Apps for business, you can set up the Google email as an exchange account on iOS mail and get instant push notifications.

Sadly, if you are using a personal gmail.com, Google ended support for that a long time ago :-(. I have yet to decide what I'm going to do myself.

https://support.google.com/a/answer/135937?hl=en

I wonder why they ended support! That's insane. Well, I admin my company's Google Apps for Business account so I'll be able to do the Exchange deal over there which is exactly what I need it for the most.

I guess I can use my iCloud mail as my primary personal and clean up most of the issues this way, it's just really strange you can't do exchange anymore on Google. I'd gladly pay like, a few bucks a month to enable exchange on an account-by-account basis for personal @gmail.com addresses.

 

[LongZheng]

You can also try the Outlook iOS app. https://appsto.re/au/8OwV4.i

It processes emails server side and supports the new Gmail APIs which send email notifications instantly. Outlook's push notifications allows you to archive or delete the email so would also work on the phone.

There's no native Watch app yet.

 

[b0fh666]

gmail accounts + apple anything : major f-word-up

 

[TreoRenegade]

CloudMagic provides instant gMail notifications. It now has a Watch component. No comment there, as I'm still awaiting delivery. Universal.

 

[bjdraw]

Having the same problem. Was thinking of trying the Inbox app or hoping for an update. Not a big deal either way as I prefer to read long messages on my iPhone anyways, but it would be nice to delete or mark as read like I can with the Outlook app and my work email.

 

[xraydoc]

Gmail via the native iOS email app uses Fetch. You can change the Fetch interval to as rapid as every 15 minutes. Keep in mind that it'll use a bit more battery juice to check that frequently.

I use a service called Neuvasync that will "convert" your standard Gmail account to an Exchange account for true Push email and notifications through the native iOS email app.

It does cost a few bucks, and you do have to use your login credentials with a third party (though I use 2-step authorization and use an app-specific password for them), but it's been working great for me for over a year.

 

[dukejl]

I use the Google Inbox app and I see notifications instantly on my watch. I prefer it over the Gmail app but that app should do the same thing.

http://www.google.com/inbox/

 

[bunnicula]

Sadly you are right on.

However, if you use Google Apps for business, you can set up the Google email as an exchange account on iOS mail and get instant push notifications.

Sadly, if you are using a personal gmail.com, Google ended support for that a long time ago :-(. I have yet to decide what I'm going to do myself.

https://support.google.com/a/answer/135937?hl=en

Yeah... I had to set up a Google Accounts deal to get all mine the way I wanted them a few years ago.

It's worth it if you have your own domain.

 

[Armen]

So I'm hitting a pretty big snag here with timely notifications on the watch. My company email runs through Google Apps, as well as my personal email that isn't my iCloud mail. Something doesn't seem to be supported correctly with Gmail addresses and Apple's stock iOS mail app as you never quite get push notifications or emails instantly like you do with the Gmail iOS app. This hasn't been a big deal on the phone as you're constantly checking and refreshing, but it kind of sucks big time now that its possible to receive them immediately, and being in the music / film industry we need to be 100% on top of things in real time.

You're left with two options on the Watch:


1. Use the stock Mail notifications, be able to read the entire email, but receive them in chunks 30+ minutes later than they arrive.

2. Use the Gmail app's push notifications, receive them the second they come in, but only read the first two lines with your only option being to "dismiss".


Why is there such an issue with Gmail and iOS Mail? Is this something likely to be solved or am I overlooking something here? There's such a tangible possibility to have this be smooth but it totally isn't. It's really my only gripe with the watch, it's been incredible otherwise.

It has been like this since Google decided not to support push anymore. It's not Apple's fault.

 

[viachicago22]

This thread may be helpful as well.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1874486/

 

[twisted-pixel]

I use neuvasync. It's a subscription service but works flawlessly

 

[lchlch]

I believe the easiest solution is to forward all your gmail to your iCloud.

Than slowly transition over.

 

[melman101]

****, now I'm really thinking about what to do.

What I don't like about using icloud e-mail is that the login is tied to my GMail.

This sucks.

 

[Bigserver1]

Is anyone using Mailbox on the watch? That's the app I use on my phone (I'm obsessed), but I haven't heard anything about the experience on the watch. They sync directly with gmail and offer push notifications.

If it works well, it's a very worthwhile switch. All of the new swiping actions in Mail have been directly ripped off from mailbox. Hopefully it works well.

 

[spampy22]

I use Microsofts outlook client and it works flawlessly. Just add your gmail and other email accounts to it and they all push instantly

 

[Rayban]

This is why I switched from gmail. I just have it forward all my messages to another email account that supports push. I now use outlook but may completely switch to iCloud soon.

 

[melman101]

I use Microsofts outlook client and it works flawlessly. Just add your gmail and other email accounts to it and they all push instantly

Does it have a watch app?

 

[spampy22]

Does it have a watch app?

It doesn't have a specific app on the home screen of the watch but they come over via push beautifully and can read the entire email with an option to mark it Read, Archive, Delete, save for later. The only email client I know of that has a specific app on the home screen of the watch is Apples Mail app.

 

[melman101]

It doesn't have a specific app on the home screen of the watch but they come over via push beautifully and can read the entire email with an option to mark it Read, Archive, Delete, save for later. The only email client I know of that has a specific app on the home screen of the watch is Apples Mail app.

Hmm I use the GMail app on the iPhone. I wonder if that would work just the same.

Can't wait to get the watch. LOL.

 

[Kent01]

So I'm hitting a pretty big snag here with timely notifications on the watch. My company email runs through Google Apps, as well as my personal email that isn't my iCloud mail. Something doesn't seem to be supported correctly with Gmail addresses and Apple's stock iOS mail app as you never quite get push notifications or emails instantly like you do with the Gmail iOS app. This hasn't been a big deal on the phone as you're constantly checking and refreshing, but it kind of sucks big time now that its possible to receive them immediately, and being in the music / film industry we need to be 100% on top of things in real time.

You're left with two options on the Watch:


1. Use the stock Mail notifications, be able to read the entire email, but receive them in chunks 30+ minutes later than they arrive.

2. Use the Gmail app's push notifications, receive them the second they come in, but only read the first two lines with your only option being to "dismiss".


Why is there such an issue with Gmail and iOS Mail? Is this something likely to be solved or am I overlooking something here? There's such a tangible possibility to have this be smooth but it totally isn't. It's really my only gripe with the watch, it's been incredible otherwise.

Google and Apple aren't exactly friends. They ended push service on their web mail awhile ago and reserved it for their app.

iOS hasn't had push ability through its baked in email app for Gmail in quite some time.

 

[jmmo20]

Gmail via the native iOS email app uses Fetch. You can change the Fetch interval to as rapid as every 15 minutes. Keep in mind that it'll use a bit more battery juice to check that frequently.

I use a service called Neuvasync that will "convert" your standard Gmail account to an Exchange account for true Push email and notifications through the native iOS email app.

It does cost a few bucks, and you do have to use your login credentials with a third party (though I use 2-step authorization and use an app-specific password for them), but it's been working great for me for over a year.

Not anymore .. they now support openauth (I believe that's the name) so it does connect to gmail but it goes through google´s login screen, then once authenticated, google provides a token to nueva sync.. so they never actually know the login credentials.

 

[Ambush083]

I have over 50 labels in Gmail most likely that have rules / filters to go in these different folders.

I use ALL MAIL to see everything new. It does not notify on my Watch if I have a new e-mail, but on my phone it seems to. Anyone know a fix?

 

[bjdraw]

I second the recommendation for Outlook. It works great with the Watch despite not having an App lots of actionable on watch Options and instant alerts. I only use it to read my work email, but am considering using it for GMail as well.