Gmail ActiveSync going away

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  1. whsbuss macrumors 68040

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    I just saw this too and noticed that the account I switched over per Google instructions does not Push.

    This is annoying.

    I'm wondering if I should go back to the Exchange setup until it bombs or if some "fix" will come out in the next month once the whole thing shuts down.
     
  3. whsbuss thread starter macrumors 68040

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    According to the article, current users will be grandfathered(?) so go back to exchange or you won't get it after Jan. 2013.

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    Here's an article on TheVerge.... has some additional info.

    http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/14/...-sync-exchange-support-for-gmail-calendar-and
     
  4. Afbar1114 macrumors 6502a

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    i am confused on this...does this mean they way i have this set up in exchange will go away?
     
  5. whsbuss thread starter macrumors 68040

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    If you have your gmail account setup as exchange currently, you will be grand fathered. But new accounts and new devices after 1/30/13 will no longer be able to use exchange.
     
  6. Afbar1114, Dec 14, 2012
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    ok and what if i need to restore my phone? if i restore from iCloud will it still be there?


    does anyone use iCloud email?
     
  7. whsbuss thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I would assume so but not sure. Read TheVerge article and the link to Google's explanation near the bottom.
     
  8. tann macrumors 68000

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    Hopefully restoring doesn't destroy this, cause I should be able to keep it forever then I assume!
     
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    Do accounts on a free Google apps for domain get to keep it too?
     
  10. whsbuss thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Don't think so. Check TheVerge article near the bottom. There's a link to Google which explains the changes.

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    From what I read, restoring to a new device after 1/30/13 may not work. We will soon find out. I've tried the Gmail app just released but I'm not fond of it.

    Cons so far:

    - default notification sound is soft and short. Needs option to select a different/installed alert tone on the device.
    - no embedded way to set a calendar event from the mail body like in the native mail app.
     
  11. irod87 macrumors regular

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    I like having all my accounts through the mail app. I use exchange for my gmail. Guess its good ill be grandfathered in.
     
  12. whsbuss thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Me too. That's why I posted here. Get it now before you can't.
     
  13. Truckondo macrumors member

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    That blows. So if I get a iPhone 5 or 5s in the future, how will I access my gmail from the stock mail client?
     
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    You still will be able to check it via fetch instead of it being pushed.
     
  15. vistadude macrumors 65816

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    Most people are not using gmail through exchange because it's not the default setup. Most people won't even notice the difference. Gmail through imap and pop will still work.
     
  16. HankHowdy, Dec 14, 2012
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    Just sync calendar and contacts like this. [​IMG]

    They are just making it more difficult. You just have to add the contacts and calendar like as separate accounts and then you can sync forever.
     
  17. whsbuss thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Yeah that's true. Most people see Gmail in the setup and choose that. I hate waiting up to 15 minutes to get email. If/when I am refused exchange setup, I'll have to keep the Gmail app setup just for the notification. Then open the native mail app and d/l the gmail stuff. Wow - this will suck!!
     
  18. GreyOS macrumors 68030

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    Is there an open standard for push email? Should there be one?
     
  19. BlaqkAudio macrumors 6502

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    IMAP IDLE. Gmail supports it, but iOS's Mail app doesn't, that's why you have to setup Gmail as an Exchange account to have push. Supposedly, IDLE support is left out because Jobs said it's a "power hog."
     
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    hopefully there will be a fix and they offer push somehow yet the "grandfather" thing does sound odd and very unclear
     
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    Well, he was mostly right about that. It was not originally intended for mobile use and is not well optimized for it. It also does not support calendars and contacts (and CalDAV and CardDAV by themselves do not support push either).

    There is no open standard for push mail. Some people in the IETF proposed one a few years ago, but it never went beyond draft status (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-maes-lemonade-p-imap-12).

    But I guess Google's move has little to do with technical considerations, but is mostly about nudging non-paying customers towards using their Gmail app, so they can later start displaying ads in the app and monetize the service.
     
  22. HankHowdy macrumors 68040

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    All of our current gmail accounts will still have sync with exchange. We don't have to use the gmail app if we don't want to. This only applies to brand new accounts created in 2013. Google is just trying to make it tougher for iOS users with gmail from 2013 and on. Even new accounts will be able to sync, it will just be tougher to set up is all.
     
  23. cruisencode macrumors member

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    I thought existing devices were grandfathered, not existing accounts? The way I read it, when you upgrade your device, you're screwed. :mad:
     
  24. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    Saw this today ... it sucks! I've had gmail push for years on my iOS devices, so if this goes away I'm going to be pissed! There seems to be no clear answer on grandfathering yet either.

    Either way, I will NOT resort to the Gmail App. I have 1-2 other email accounts I use and I'm not going to have two apps for email alone. So hopefully this is ironed out soon.
     
  25. cruisencode macrumors member

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    Well, here is what the actual blog post from Google says...

     

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