this is a major PR trap for companies like Google and Facebook who have made billions on ignorance of people.
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Gmail iOS App Has Out of Date Warning After 2 Months of No Updates as Google Delays Privacy Labels [Updated]
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Google as well as many others differentiate what they do in ”tracking” and ”analytics” - which is, on a more general level, a very similar if not the same thing.
Compliance with Apple’s new privacy rules may well rule out all sorts of “analytics” in apps that show targeted ads. It’s not just that single device identifier or putting up a vague descriptive list of labels in the App Store. I mean Facebook put up this monstrosity - for sure just the least required denominator for that listing. A preposterous definition of “just some data” (and I assume it’s inconceivable for most of us how this data can be and is used).
Compliance with Apple’s new privacy rules may well rule out all sorts of “analytics” in apps that show targeted ads. It’s not just that single device identifier or putting up a vague descriptive list of labels in the App Store. I mean Facebook put up this monstrosity - for sure just the least required denominator for that listing. A preposterous definition of “just some data” (and I assume it’s inconceivable for most of us how this data can be and is used).
Surely 'market' and 'users' are very different things. I may have a gmail account but I don't actively use it, for me it is only used to fire system health messages from my NASs.
The overwhelming bulk of my email traffic is, in descending order: business-hosted email, own-domain email and finally iCloud email.
I find it hard to believe that the volume of data exchanged by Gmail is anything close to that provided by other major providers.
This. People drank the kool-aide regarding Google and Gmail respecting privacy. I've seen posts on this site lecturing us that Google is just as privacy focused as Apple and we'd all know that if we would just read their privacy policy. Sure, ok. They've used up every delay and excuse they could come up with. At this point it is obvious they are doing their best to avoid a reckoning. Probably some massive reengineering going on to try and segment data harvesting away from iOS and iPadOS so they can put up a less frightening privacy label and not admit to everything that has been going on and will continue to go on if you touch their services from any other access method.
Just curious, why does Apple iOS allow these apps to track my online activities anyway ?
Why does Apple allow the Facebook app to get my financial info, purchases, contacts, search history, health data and other sensitive info ?
So Google has to declare what they’re up to on my iPhone but Apple has been allowing them to do this for years.
Apple is complicit in this data harvesting right ?
Why does Apple allow the Facebook app to get my financial info, purchases, contacts, search history, health data and other sensitive info ?
So Google has to declare what they’re up to on my iPhone but Apple has been allowing them to do this for years.
Apple is complicit in this data harvesting right ?
You are the one who downloaded these apps.
What Apple is doing is giving users the tools to be more aware of what apps are doing with our permissions and data. But ultimately, the choice lies with the user on what they are willing to give up.
Apple weren't 'allowing' it. The data harvested is all data you willingly gave over to somebody exchange for legitimate goods or services. You just didn't know how many of those somebodies had deals to to share and cross reference that data. They didn't harvest it from your phone while you were sleeping - you gave it to them via your interactions with websites and 3rd party apps. You just didn't know that your 3rd party finance app, was sharing data with your insurance company's website, your 3rd party driving navigation app, your favourite web search, and the service where you share photos with family.
In a fair comparison, is Apple any better than what Facebook, and Google are being accused of? I regularly see the argument being made by people who won't touch an apple device because of features like Siri, and iCloud and apple collecting data through those as well. When I look at the situation, it seems like everyone is pointing the finger at the other, and the one they're pointing at is no better.
If we shouldn't be surprised, then why is Google dragging their feet?
Same here. Everybody should know about https://takeout.google.com/ where you can download an archive of each google service you might have. I did my email and you get an mbox file you can load into Thunderbird / Mail whatever. Then spend a day deleting 6 months at a time thru Gmail. "before:20xx/01/01" is your friend in that task.
dinobear, I bet you could even load that into your personal server and have it online. Are you doing mailinabox?
Since my gmail inbox is a mess, I'm keeping it away from my new server. It's nice starting fresh and staying ontop of unread emails now. I'm still keeping gmail to reference old emails or catch anything coming in from my long history with that gmail address. For my hosting I'm using Cloudways and they have an option to use Rackspace for their email functionality. So far it's working out great. Super fast, spam filter is great.
I run my own business so I like moving away from the gmail address I made in college (which I didn't use my name for). My own domain feels a bit more professional (I got firstname@lastname.x). Just going to be a while before everyone updates their address book with my new email. But with time gmail will be totally phased out.
Get spammed as in anyone you give your email address to commercially sell it. Not spam filtering.
Which very sadly a large chunk of people per app store reviews do not know the difference between and complain their email app doesn't filter spam or they have gotten more spam since downloading x/y mail app 🤦♂️
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Sorry, I had no idea what /s meant. Don't apologize for not being in the cool set.
For real? They update their apps constantly....
Edit: Gah, I missed the /s tag!! My apologies!
This is war, war!!
If they are not planning to update their apps, no point owning an iphone...
Perhaps the most useful app for me is: youtube, then the rest gmail, Google Maps, Google News.
The only useful app for me on iphone is Music period.
If they are not planning to update their apps, no point owning an iphone...
Perhaps the most useful app for me is: youtube, then the rest gmail, Google Maps, Google News.
The only useful app for me on iphone is Music period.
"shaking" i don't think so, they are the competition they are Android.
I think this is war...Let's se what Apple can do without Google....
YouTube is useful, fine, but the others?
It's not like there are faster, built-in iOS apps for all of them...
Also, the prospect of being spoon-fed "google news" from your filter bubble isn't too endearing either.
Apple will be fine they don’t depend on google at all. Android devices certainly do but not apple