iPhone X Gmail no longer gets pushed.

vhl71

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Noticed that my gmail no longer gets pushed to my iPhone X since yesterday. All other emails automatic show up even when the phone is locked. But not gmail.
For example when I work up this morning there was a bunch of emails on the lock screen from our mail accounts and I started reading them. Then only gmails showed up even though the time stamp on them indicate they arrived on the server earlier.
Has anyone noticed this?
 

bigjnyc

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Are you using the Apple mail app? because push for gmail ended for that a long time ago, unless you have a business account. If you're talking about the Gmail mail app then it should still be pushing.
 

vhl71

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Are you using the Apple mail app? because push for gmail ended for that a long time ago, unless you have a business account. If you're talking about the Gmail mail app then it should still be pushing.
Yes. I’m using the Apple mail app. May be I didn’t notice it before. I always thought it was getting pushed as I was getting notifications on my lock screen. May be it was never the case.

This may be a bigger issue for me. I was looking at Microsoft exchange or google business email for my business email account.
 

KrisLord

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Notifications on your lock screen and whether or not you have push are likely unrelated.

Have a look in mail to see what frequency it’s set to receive email.

There’s options for a check every 15 minutes which would mean they’re on the lock screen when you wake (unless they are less than 15 min old)
 

bigjnyc

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Yes. I’m using the Apple mail app. May be I didn’t notice it before. I always thought it was getting pushed as I was getting notifications on my lock screen. May be it was never the case.

This may be a bigger issue for me. I was looking at Microsoft exchange or google business email for my business email account.
If you get a google business account you should be fine. that will enable push... But make sure you confirm that first as I don't know if its changed.
 

vhl71

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That’s really strange for google to do this just for Apple mail app. On android, I used the outlook mail app and that got my gmails instantly. If they kept the instant mail delivery only to gmail app, I understand. But why to have restrictions on Apple mail only??
 

Cmd-Z

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What about this article??
https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/06/ios-11-appears-to-restore-gmail-push-in-apple-mail/
Also the outlook app on iOS gets the gmails pushed. Very strange. How come only the Apple mail app can’t get this working??
That article was back when iOS 11 was in beta, not sure if any of that applies now. The article does note that the Fetch schedule of "Automatically" applies when on power and Wi-Fi, and the same limitation is noted today in Settings.

I don't think it is so much of an Apple limitation, it is Google's support of IMAP that is the issue. For Gmail app and the Android environment, I think they use a different protocol than IMAP and that is why 'push' works under those scenarios. If you do a little research you'll see that Android has suffered from push issues over the years too, maybe you never got hit by that.

You used to be able to set up a Gmail account in iOS as an Exchange account, that supported push. But Google pulled the plug on this 5 years ago (unless you have a [paid] G Suite account).
 

onepoint

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Settings > Accounts & Passwords > Fetch New Data

If set to “Automatic” Gmail will push only when connected to WiFi and plugged into power. My understanding is that otherwise it’s the same as Manual (you have to open the app to pull new email).

Which is bullsht on Apple’s part. Why we are not provided the ability to push Gmail when plugged in and on WiFi, otherwise fetch every X minutes, is beyond me - but, conveniently, using iCloud or non-Google email this isn’t a problem (because push works).

Google is to blame for dropping the Exchange push support from free accounts, and Apple is to blame for not providing more comprehensive push/fetch options than those that seemingly only restrict Gmail users.
 

Thor_1

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Using the gmail app. Get emails
I didn't like Gmail set up as Exchange...it was odd.

It's been mentioned before many times about using the Gmail app for notifications. I'm doing that right now.

I use the gmail app and have zero issues.
 

Rdboyz

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Using the gmail app. Get emails



I use the gmail app and have zero issues.
My only problem with the gmail app is I can’t customize the sound. I sleep through the email since it’s a low pitch ding.
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I didn't like Gmail set up as Exchange...it was odd.

It's been mentioned before many times about using the Gmail app for notifications. I'm doing that right now.
It has no sound or vibration. You constantly have to be looking at your screen in order to see if you got a new mail it’s annoying im a way can’t customized a sound or put no ringtone to it.
 

ATC

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I just switched from using the default iOS Mail app to Spark and now all my accounts are being pushed (including my Gmail account). Oh and the app is way better than the default Mail app in every way, and it’s free.

Edit: Email app (Edison Mail) is even better than Spark. After using it for a few days I now have no interest in ever going back to the default mail app.
 
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Rdboyz

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I just switched from using the default iOS Mail app to Spark and now all my accounts are being pushed (including my Gmail account). Oh and the app is way better than the default Mail app in every way, and it’s free.
I will definitely check it out. Thanks tho it’s annoying that in order to get instant notifications I have to be connected to Wi-Fi and phone on power. ‍♂
 

bpeeps

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Simply put, the third-party apps that can push Gmail are using your saved credentials at their "own" servers which get the pushed Gmail and send it on to you.
Yep, and most of them grab your data in the process.