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WBS make it sound like they are going to make the hedge funds and banks pay for 2008, but are these financial institutions shortening GME the same ones that cause the 2008 crisis? I think they are punishing the innocent here?!


Thanks for the insight. One last question, those short seller are borrowing the stock, so as a stock owner why would I want to loan my stock to a short seller? I know I get interest on it but the idea is that he is going to bring it back when its worth less. Is it because I am betting that its going to be worth more in the future? Who thought Gamestop will go up in price? thats crazy.

Conspiracy time: WBS are the original GME stock owners that lended the stock to Melvin, Capital, and Citron.


Not too crazy, it closed at $325, reading WBS sounded they are going to make it reach $5000. Although they did say the squeeze might not happen on Friday but next week.
I’d say the rest of the market was pretty crazy. Not exactly March 2020, but most of the market bled pretty badly today. But yeah, with GME specifically, Thursday was peak insanity.

For those looking for a stock tip from a shoeshine boy, the next significant WSB target is looking to possibly be silver, SLV specifically. This one looks to be in the beginning stages, so don’t expect massive gains next week.
 
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This isn't investor specific. Psychologists refer to this as BIRG (Basking In Reflected Glory) and CORF (Casting Off Reflected Failure). Sports fans do this. When your team wins fans say "We won." If the team loses the fans say "They lost."
Just like parents and children. If the child wins some contest, it's "My son/daughter! That's my son/daughter up there!"
If the child's ball smashes the neighbors window, it's "Your son/daughter just smashed our neighbors window!"
 
One last question, those short seller are borrowing the stock, so as a stock owner why would I want to loan my stock to a short seller? I know I get interest on it but the idea is that he is going to bring it back when its worth less. Is it because I am betting that its going to be worth more in the future? Who thought Gamestop will go up in price? thats crazy.
Yes correct. It can be lucrative to lend out your shares. Brokers can offer more than 10% on certain issues. But, at the end of the day, you hold a stock because you think it's going to go higher. A short seller thinks the stock will go lower. So, in theory, after you make your shares available to borrow, when you sell those shares you will be better off than by simply holding the stock.

The analysis for GME is the same although circumstances are unique now because it is so overvalued on fundamentals. GME may nevertheless still go higher. There is still a very large short position in the stock that appears to be underwater. If those shorts need to cover to stay solvent, they become forced buyers. If there are not enough shares to purchase, the stock price will appreciate even more. It's just supply and demand at this point. Place your bet.
 
Yes correct. It can be lucrative to lend out your shares. Brokers can offer more than 10% on certain issues.
An additional point: now that essentially all retail investors do not actually possess the shares in their portfolios (shares are held in "street name" by their broker for them) brokerages can lend shares to short sellers without asking permission from holders. Even worse for retail investors, there is no compensation paid when brokers lend out "your" shares.
 
An additional point: now that essentially all retail investors do not actually possess the shares in their portfolios (shares are held in "street name" by their broker for them) brokerages can lend shares to short sellers without asking permission from holders. Even worse for retail investors, there is no compensation paid when brokers lend out "your" shares.
Who then gets the shorting fee? The brokerage?
 
An additional point: now that essentially all retail investors do not actually possess the shares in their portfolios (shares are held in "street name" by their broker for them) brokerages can lend shares to short sellers without asking permission from holders. Even worse for retail investors, there is no compensation paid when brokers lend out "your" shares.
Yes, true, if you have a margin account. Most people do not even know they agree to lend out shares when they sign the broker agreements. I think you can call your broker and participate if you have a cash account and have enough shares.
 
Who then gets the shorting fee? The brokerage?
It is usually lucrative for the broker. This is one of the ways they make money. But it depends on the type of account you have and your relationship with the broker. If you have a cash account and large enough shares you can reach out to your broker to see if you can loan out your shares.
 
Reminds me of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia when Charlie Day plays the Wild Card. Not sure how you predict the behavior of a disenfranchised group willing to lose money if it sticks it to The Man.

The next time a Wall Street analyst makes a prediction/recommendation to Buy, Sell or Hold, they need add that there is a new group of investors that if they act in unison, the stock could go in the (extreme) opposite direction.

It will be fun to see how much higher AMC goes.
 
I bought in. 1 share. If it goes up, yay. If it goes down, oh well. I can afford one share.
The important thing (in my mind) is not the price of the share, but the fact that over the course of just a few short days there millions of people really paying attention to the stock market, and actually putting a concerted effort into learning how it works. For these people it the stock market was just some voodoo thing where you could buy a portion of a company somehow, and there are crazy guys flashing their hands and throwing paper every which way on a floor. Now they learning terms both of the traditional variety, as well as the WSB variety. If these people buy even just one share of stock of GME, they get to see what happens and how it happens. They get to see all the public and even some of the private, sketchy stuff going on. There's no learning like actually doing, and a heck of a lot of people are just now doing.

For me, I have some (not enough, but that's neither here nor there) money in a govt. thrift savings plan account. Every now and then I change up my positions around between various funds, and I enjoy getting statements that say I gained X percentage this quarter, etc. But now, I've got a freaking brokerage account :cool: and I get to call the shots at what I invest in. Yeah, I bought in because of this. But again, so what if it tanks. I'm not disillusioned into thinking this will go to 69,420.69 per share. The lesson with all of this is worth and actually getting in is worth waaaaaaay more than any of this, and so is the fun in sticking it to those huge fund managers. I let all my other future investments be for real, this one is for fun and learning.

Am I wrong with any of this?
 
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I bought in. 1 share. If it goes up, yay. If it goes down, oh well. I can afford one share.
The important thing (in my mind) is not the price of the share, but the fact that over the course of just a few short days there millions of people really paying attention to the stock market, and actually putting a concerted effort into learning how it works. For these people it the stock market was just some voodoo thing where you could buy a portion of a company somehow, and there are crazy guys flashing their hands and throwing paper every which way on a floor. Now they learning terms both of the traditional variety, as well as the WSB variety. If these people buy even just one share of stock of GME, they get to see what happens and how it happens. They get to see all the public and even some of the private, sketchy stuff going on. There's no learning like actually doing, and a heck of a lot of people are just now doing.

For me, I have some (not enough, but that's neither here nor there) money in a govt. thrift savings plan account. Every now and then I change up my positions around between various funds, and I enjoy getting statements that say I gained X percentage this quarter, etc. But now, I've got a freaking brokerage account :cool: and I get to call the shots at what I invest in. Yeah, I bought in because of this. But again, so what if it tanks. I'm not disillusioned into thinking this will go to 69,420.69 per share. The lesson with all of this is worth and actually getting in is worth waaaaaaay more than any of this, and so is the fun in sticking it to those huge fund managers. I let all my other future investments be for real, this one is for fun and learning.

Am I wrong with any of this?
You are making an investment decision based on how you believe the public will react to a market condition (weather, war, politics, health, stick it to the man, etc).
 
You are making an investment decision based on how you believe the public will react to a market condition (weather, war, politics, health, stick it to the man, etc).
I mean, I guess. Q: Do I think it will go up? A: Do I even care. Is it that the important thing for me here? Nah, not really. This particular instance for me was less investing a more a part of just being there and sticking it to a hedge fund. Of course I want it to go up for my sake, but one share of GME isn't going to make or break me! I mean, I might as well "diamond hands" hold this thing till I die. That's what I think a lot of the seasoned vets don't get, a lot of these people straight up don't care about losses with this, they'll hold and hold and hold some more.
 
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Accidentally had a GTC order on amc that I forgot about that executed. Still hold shares and gme. Woulda kept this but it expires in 3 days anyways.

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