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Gobi (PPC 750GX) - This Summer?

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The Register writes about the upcoming G3 processor from IBM, codenamed Gobi. In their article, they reference the various rumors that have already been circulating as well as some unverified comments from this site (MacRumors).

Of interest, they add further confirmation that Gobi will be shipping at 1+GHz speeds this summer and is expected to be pin-compatible with the current 750FX.

It's still unclear what role these chips will have in Apple's upcoming hardware.
 
Article Link
https://www.macrumors.com/2003/05/12/gobi-ppc-750gx-this-summer/
This sounds perfect for an across the board increase to 1Ghz as the minimum entry level clockspeed this summer.

It's been long time coming too.
 
AltiVec support for the G3 - finally!

This means that Apple probably wont ever put G4s in the iBook - soon all the product lines will be IBM only chips. Bye bye Moto.
 
ibooks maybe?


Maybe when all the line has gone to PPC970 the iBooks will be on these babies, will they be powerful enough to have a DVD Burner tho?
 
Strange that there is more info available for the PPC 970 than the 750GX.

I wonder why all the secrecy?
 
Originally posted by gotohamish
AltiVec support for the G3 - finally!

This means that Apple probably wont ever put G4s in the iBook - soon all the product lines will be IBM only chips. Bye bye Moto.
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I agree. This seems to be exactly what Apple is going for, which suits me just fine. The one thing about this though is that it may put the 12" ibook (if this is where it is going to end up) in a better light than the 12"PB. Unless of course we get a 970 PB at the same time :D
 
Originally posted by blueBomber
I agree. This seems to be exactly what Apple is going for, which suits me just fine. The one thing about this though is that it may put the 12" ibook (if this is where it is going to end up) in a better light than the 12"PB. Unless of course we get a 970 PB at the same time :D
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We all know Apple wants rid of the G4 asap - I can see 970/G5 powerbooks a lot sooner than we're used to with chip-transitions.

I think Apple might rename this chip for the iBooks though - especially if the Pro machines become 'G5' as then a G3 would look odd. maybe there's a whole new name structure on the way. xBooks and Xstations? xMac?
 
CRAP! I was gearing up to buy an iBook in the begining of June, now I have to freaking wait!!!!!!! I figured I was safe with an update so recent, but if the GOBI is comming this summer, I will hold off. Arrrggghhhh!
 
Originally posted by gotohamish
AltiVec support for the G3 - finally!
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Where did you get that idea? The article specifically said that Altivec would appear in the chip AFTER the 750GX. Unless that was what you were referring to (but that's not the one that they are saying will ship this summer).
 
It could mean apple standardising on DDR400.

I know a 200Mhz SDR frontside bus coupled with 400Mhz DDR is going to be as effective as the current 167Mhz SDR frontside bus of the G4 minitowers running on DDR333 but it would allow apple to maximise the bandwidth each system has available to it without using different RAM.

I know there's been no mention of the PPC7457 in months but let's assume that ends up in the TiBooks later in year we'd have a nice little lineup :

iBook : Gobi with DDR400 (1.5Gb/s)

TiBook, eMac and iMac : 7457 with DDR400 (1.5Gb/s)

Powermac and Xserve : 970 with dual channel DDR400 (6.4Gb/s)

This would give apple a huge boost in 'perceptual' bandwidth, their whole range would appear to have standardised on DDR400. For people more in the know, the PPC970 based systems really would scream and I'm sure with the larger L2 of both gobi and 7457, the iBook and eMac/iMac would certainly give the Pentium-M and the Celeron a run for it's money even though they'd still be fairly starved of bandwidth even with a 200Mhz FSB.
 
Originally posted by drastik
CRAP! I was gearing up to buy an iBook in the begining of June, now I have to freaking wait!!!!!!! I figured I was safe with an update so recent, but if the GOBI is comming this summer, I will hold off. Arrrggghhhh!
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I was going to buy one myself, damn you IBM, well no, thank you IBM.. Hell i dont know anymore.
 
Personally, I think the Register is full of doodoo. They have zero credibility in my book, after the G5 hype fiasco. This report doesn't say anything new; it's simply recycling old rumors. And the reason why the G3 hasn't hit 1 ghz with the 750FX is not because of technical reasons, in my opinion, but because of marketing reasons. Apple, likely the main buyer for a 1ghz chip, is not gonna put in a 1ghz chip in the iBook as long as the Powerbook is stuck at 867/1000mhz.

Originally posted by blueBomber
I agree. This seems to be exactly what Apple is going for, which suits me just fine. The one thing about this though is that it may put the 12" ibook (if this is where it is going to end up) in a better light than the 12"PB. Unless of course we get a 970 PB at the same time :D
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I wouldn't worry about this at this point. The 750VX, if it really exists, is said to be sampling at the end of the year. It's not gonna make its way into any computers until late spring or summer of 2004, a year from now. By that time, a lot of things will have changed to the lineup of CPUs.
 
Re: PPC 970

Originally posted by Nutzoids
I know it's a little off the point but has anyone eles een these links about the ppc970?

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/newsletter/pdf/dec2002.pdf

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/A1387A29AC1C2AE087256C5200611780/$file/PPC970_MPF2002.pdf


Both are adobe and both came straight from IBM's webpage!

Let me know:confused:
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Our Apologies
You have attempted to enter a controlled access area. IBM Microelectronics uses a entitlement process to protect potentially sensitive data. Please use the Sign In link at the right side of the page to log in.

HTTP Web Server: Lotus Notes Exception - Entry not found in index
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Can't find the second one... Did you have to sign in? Do you happen to have a copy?
 
Originally posted by drastik
CRAP! I was gearing up to buy an iBook in the begining of June, now I have to freaking wait!!!!!!! I figured I was safe with an update so recent, but if the GOBI is comming this summer, I will hold off. Arrrggghhhh!
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Gobi chips are coming this summer. Not necessarily iBooks based on them. Once IBM starts shipping, then you can figure there may be a new iBook on the way. You can wait for ever, (there will always be something better 6-9 months later) or you can get what you need now.
 
Re: PPC 970

Originally posted by Nutzoids
I know it's a little off the point but has anyone eles een these links about the ppc970?

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/newsletter/pdf/dec2002.pdf

http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/A1387A29AC1C2AE087256C5200611780/$file/PPC970_MPF2002.pdf


Both are adobe and both came straight from IBM's webpage!

Let me know:confused:
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Reading the first PDF, I noticed that the PPC 970 is supposed to be produced at the fishkill FAB. Earlier today I noticed this on another rumors site:

http://www.siliconstrategies.com/story/OEG20030509S0034

It says that there is a rumor that IBM is gutting the Fishkill (no pun intended:D ), and going to be turning it over to AMD for advanced processor manufacturing.

Doubtful, but interesting none the less.
 
just my 2 cents

I definitely feel these may go into the mini-tablet, if there really is going to be one.... If so, they will go into the mini-tablet first, then into the next round of ibook updates, which most likely by that time will also recieve a new-improved enclosure.. which I feel has room to be more indestructable than it already is..
 
Originally posted by drastik
CRAP! I was gearing up to buy an iBook in the begining of June, now I have to freaking wait!!!!!!! I figured I was safe with an update so recent, but if the GOBI is comming this summer, I will hold off. Arrrggghhhh!
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Upgrade when the reasons to do so are compelling enough; it's also wise to coordinate your purchase with a recent update. If you thought the current iBook was compelling enough yesterday, you could get it and have the best iBook available for the next 4-5 months.

Always waiting for the next big thing gets you a better computer tomorrow, but means you are using an older computer today. (Works out fine if you also own a time machine.)
 
Re: Re: PPC 970

Originally posted by Actuary
Can't find the second one... Did you have to sign in? Do you happen to have a copy?
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I don't have any Login or Password for those links. They took a while to come up, but they did come up in Adobe Acrobat Reader! I veiwed them at work on a Windows PC...Sorry but I can't control work! :( I have not tested them on my IBook but i would assume that it would work.
 
Not the end of the G4

An IBM 750 with AltiVec would not be the end of the G4... it would BE a G4, and give Apple a new G4 supplier for consumer Macs. Good news.
 
As long as it runs cooler that the G4, I'm in. That would be a powerful moble alternative.
 
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