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Gobi (PPC 750GX) - This Summer?

Re: Not the end of the G4

Originally posted by nagromme
An IBM 750 with AltiVec would not be the end of the G4... it would BE a G4, and give Apple a new G4 supplier for consumer Macs. Good news.
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Thank you! Nice that someone is being sensible =). Assuming that IBM does add altivec to a G3, then Apple will call it a G4 - after all, they have already used 4 different chips that have all been called G4, as all it means to them is Altivec-Enabled.

G3 - 32-bit, Non-Altivec (yes, that is a bad description =p)
G4 - 32-bit, Altivec
G5 - 64-bit, Altivec =).

Here's to the G5 soon!
 
I don't think any of the new chips will be G- anything. Apple would do well to stay away from this stigma. When I think of the G4's, all I think of is over-heating, and under performing. I say new look, new name , a clean slate with no past baggage.
 
I'm new so you're allowed to point and laugh, no offense taken.

Basically, I really want a 970 Powerbook...which I know is rumored all over the place...but this seems to me (the pessimist side at least) as being a way for apple to give the Powermacs dibs on the 970 (at least initially) while still "renovating" the powerbooks in the "year of the laptop."

This is all contingent on a Gobi that could outperform a current G4 either in considerable heat/power consumption or architecture...so far that info has not appeared conclusive.

Anyway, someone please tell me a 15" 970 Albook is coming soon.
My faith is waivering.
 
Agreed. New chip, new name, new campaign, new designs, new everything.

All of that mhz myth crap was (is) exactly that, crap. A clever and specific arrangement of words to help "justify" the paultry development of (as it appears) Moto's chips.

Anywhoo, I too think sticking with G-anything is a bad avenue for Apple to keep traversing. I think the G prefix is more a negative that a positive connotation.
 
I have to admit, I'll take the "G" over anymore "Extreme" anything. Who names these things?
 
Originally posted by herr_neumann
Pin compatible eh.... The mean we are going to be able to throw them in our current iBooks? If so, hello upgrade...
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um, is this true? I don't think so... my understanding is that ibook processor cards are not removable regardless of what the new ones are compatible with. Am I correct?
 
I personally would like to see Apple release a cheap G3 tower machine for the $499 price point, but to every man his own pocket book.

Outside of the iBook, I don't see how Apple is going to work this processor into their line-up, unless we see a tablet--but I do not see this coming at any time soon--or a new PDA--which is an already-saturated market.

So, with very few practical uses for Apple, the Gobi processor seems most ideal for the upgrade market. There are still many B&W and Beige G3 owners that would lose sleep in anticipation of a faster PowerMac. Sonnet offers a 1GHz G4, PowerLogix an 800MHz G3. If somebody had a 1.2GHz G3, it may be a compelling, inexpensive upgrade (seeing as how Sonnet's upgrade runs a cool price of an eMac).
 
Re: new chip naming?

Originally posted by mccoma
Heck, 750 and 970 sound good enough for me.
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Yes, they sound perfectly fine. However (and there's always a point against a statement), does Average Joe care for a three-digit number just for a processor name? Not that Average Joe really knows more than a MHz rating, but Apple has always stood for simplicity.

I believe it is time to stray away from the 'G' series and devise a new scheme, but those numbers seem a trifle long.
 
Chip / Machine name

I hope they do get away from naming the machine by the chip in it.

I still like "Machintosh III" and maybe "PowerBook III" - except that there never was a "PowerBook II". Steve could explain that they wanted the name to indicate that it was the portable version of the "Mac III".

No? How about the "PowerBook Pro"?

Also, just to beat that dead horse some more: People, the G4 is not a G3+AltiVec! (althogh the 750vx might be)
 
Hot chips

Originally posted by Websnapx2
When I think of the G4's, all I think of is over-heating, and under performing.
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Hang on a second, I thought that G4s were very cool compared to anything x86. Since when has heat been an issue with G4s? I do not have any temperature tests with me but I am sure that if you find any they will show the G4s to be a lot more heat efficient than Pentiums, Athlons, etc.

Of course the 970 and this new IBM G3 will be even cooler but i think that is due to advancements in chip manufacturing which were to be expected.
 
Re: Re: new chip naming?

Originally posted by rice_web
Yes, they sound perfectly fine. However (and there's always a point against a statement), does Average Joe care for a three-digit number just for a processor name? Not that Average Joe really knows more than a MHz rating, but Apple has always stood for simplicity.

I believe it is time to stray away from the 'G' series and devise a new scheme, but those numbers seem a trifle long.
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Seems to work for high end car makers.:)
 
Re: Chip / Machine name

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
I hope they do get away from naming the machine by the chip in it.

I still like "Machintosh III" and maybe "PowerBook III" - except that there never was a "PowerBook II". Steve could explain that they wanted the name to indicate that it was the portable version of the "Mac III".

No? How about the "PowerBook Pro"?

Also, just to beat that dead horse some more: People, the G4 is not a G3+AltiVec! (althogh the 750vx might be)
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Roman Numeral 3 taboo at Apple
bad times.... bad times....
 
Re: Chip / Machine name

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
I still like "Machintosh III" and maybe "PowerBook III" - except that there never was a "PowerBook II". Steve could explain that they wanted the name to indicate that it was the portable version of the "Mac III".
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Apple will never name anything with a "III" on it, ever again. The Apple III killed that idea.

Besides, Steve Jobs seems to like having 20 products with the same name. It's fun when you call tech support and they spend the first 20 minutes just figuring out which model of the Mac you happen to own: "Oh that's the PowerBook G4 32MB VRAM Dual USB Bronze FW800 15.4" LCD Bluetooth 2X SuperDrive YoYo Opaque Aluminum Magnesium edition!"
 
The rise of the GX and the final 'G' processor?!...

Originally posted by nagromme
An IBM 750 with AltiVec would not be the end of the G4... it would BE a G4, and give Apple a new G4 supplier for consumer Macs. Good news.
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No, technically it's still a G3, but the GX extension to the 750 name of this processor leaves someting to think about. It's a G3, faster than a G4 on non-altivec tasks already (look at the 750FX, which is now used in the iBooks), but is still a G3. Performance-wise it would be the best thing to do: use this 750GX in the iBooks, eMacs and iMacs (before they get the 970s, which the iMacs will probably get first of these three consumer Macs).

But then they would have to market them as having G3 processors; that would not be a very wise thing to do. Well, luckily, those new 750s have this wonderful GX name-extension. Guess what? The new iBooks, eMacs and iMacs, powered by IBM's new GX processor. Sounds pretty slick, if you ask me?!...

G1 (630), G2 (640), G3 (7XX), G4 (7XXX), GX (750). No G5, bummer. But who gives a sh*t, now we finally know (?) the 970 is coming. What will it be called by Apple? Maybe the G-naming scheme dies after the GX and just start using the numbers as the name for the processors. Who knows?! Just as long as they rename the Power Mac to xMac, the PowerBook to xBook and the Xserve to xServe. Looks good next to and differentiates nicely from the iBook and iMac.
 
Re: Hot chips

Originally posted by Sol
Hang on a second, I thought that G4s were very cool compared to anything x86. Since when has heat been an issue with G4s? I do not have any temperature tests with me but I am sure that if you find any they will show the G4s to be a lot more heat efficient than Pentiums, Athlons, etc.

Of course the 970 and this new IBM G3 will be even cooler but i think that is due to advancements in chip manufacturing which were to be expected.
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Especially in the power books, they run really hot. It takes a lot to cool them, so their fan is noisy, much like the PowerMac towers. The G4 is not a good portable proccessor. The only test you need is use a 15" powerbook on your lap for 30 minutes, you'll get a nice tan. :D
 
I'm not a big fan of the "x" or the "i" or even the "G" really. Negative association or not, I'd like to see something more innovative from a company built on innovation. Relying on tried and true symbols for "the future" just doesn't quite do it for me anymore.
 
Originally posted by Marble
I'm not a big fan of the "x" or the "i" or even the "G" really. Negative association or not, I'd like to see something more innovative from a company built on innovation. Relying on tried and true symbols for "the future" just doesn't quite do it for me anymore.
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However, thay just named their new wireless networking hardware "Airport Extreme." Adding 'exterme' to the name of something was really cool in, like, 1999. :rolleyes:
 
the G-thing is old (not that g thing the name)

the p-prefix is already used by..........

and the X-prefix is over used anyway and may remind peope of xp, (not me but there must be someone in the world:D )

i think they should go for the s-prefix this is new original. can be linked with mercs therefore showing a level of class and can stand for a number of thing, some from the top of my head

super.....um......s*it?
 
Originally posted by abdul
the G-thing is old (not that g thing the name)

the p-prefix is already used by..........

and the X-prefix is over used anyway and may remind peope of xp, (not me but there must be someone in the world:D )
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Yes it's over-used but given that we have 'OS X' it's more or less fitting to use a X-moniker. Hence XServe, Quartz Extreme, Airport Extreme, etc. My guess is that they'll stick with the i-something for consumer machines and go across the board with X-somethings for pro machines.

XServe
XStation (or XTop; XMac sounds weird)
XBook

iMac
iBook
iPod
(eMac is, of course, would be the one anomoly.)

That's my prediction anyway. I would love for Apple to surprise us with something simple, clever, and original.
 
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