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Resolved GOD, thank you...it has been a wonderful year......Yes i snatched a CUBE!
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Ok..... So lets say its grounded, which means its set to slave....somthat should cause the drive to go undetected, right ? If so, how do i define whether its grounded or not .....
Alternatively, do you think its possible for a Cube to boot from an external drive.... I might want to try it.... Thanks
no, i just pulled out the part where the hdd is connected. later when i made the 'so called discovery of the flaw' i tried the pull of the part where the ice cable is fitted on the logic board, but couldn't do so wholly as there is a lack of space to pull of the logic board...
now what do i do...
Whether it's grounded or not is largely irrelevant. What is relevant is the existence of the hole, assuming it really is C/S, implies you need to configure the hard drive for cable select. Can you provide the make / model of the drive you're attempting to install?
As far as I know, setting a drive to "master" on a cable select cable will not do any harm(provided that if you install a second drive on the cable, it is set to "slave".).
The jumper diagram you have posted appears to agree with the one I posted earlier, even though the drive is a bit different. It looks to me as though you do in fact have the drive set for master, although setting it for cable select(second set of jumpers over from the data connector) likely won't hurt anything given your modified cable.
The jumper diagram you have posted appears to agree with the one I posted earlier, even though the drive is a bit different. It looks to me as though you do in fact have the drive set for master, although setting it for cable select(second set of jumpers over from the data connector) likely won't hurt anything given your modified cable.
Conflicting master / slave configurations won't harm any of the devices so my recommendation is, given the uncertainty of what it should be, to just try them all. Start with cable select configured. If that doesn't work set it for master. If that doesn't work than set it for slave. If that doesn't work it's not a master/slave issue. To my knowledge the Cube hard disk should be set for master.
Better yet look at the jumper configuration (C/S, master, or slave) on the original drive and set the new drive for the same configuration.
It's not grounded as the connection is cut. Therefore it defaults to Master when the drive is configured as Cable Select.
Most, if not all IDE/PATA, cables have that cut in them. This is nothing special for Cubes. Having that cut in the cable does not mean the drive must be in cable select mode. Have you tried it without having the optical drive installed? This is a critical test to see if the problem is with the jumpers or the hard drive.
Ok...will give it a spin n report back.
The original hdd has ten pins, wherelse the hdd which i am replacing has 8 pins. Maybe its not an issue whether its 10 or 8, just whether master, slave or cs. The previous owner told that he attempted to repair it...i dnt know if he had meddled with the pins, thus causing the current setting to be notthe original setting..
Any way vll see hw it goes...
You are correct in that it doesn't matter what method is used to configure master / slave / cable select. What is important is how it is configured. With that said since the previous owner may have changed it and it's not working you can no longer rely on the configuration to be correct. Therefore just try them all...it'll probably take less time overall.
K guys, been more than a year, finally found some time to meddle...
...cloned 10.4, inserted the hdd, switched on, phew, some progress than before, but still ddnt boot, it was the rider logo with the "?".
tried booting externally from the Cube, still same, this really boggled me, as the the instead hdd did boot externally in a mac mini. Reset pram still same...
Took out the rams and tried with a single stick (had three in it).... Thank Jesus, the CUBE booted...YAHOOO!
i think it was the rams issue, apart from the earlier HDD issue..
slotted in all three sticks, but still one of it is not recognised
Well, from the consecutive failures in the PowerBook and iBook, this was soothing...... now i can pair the Cube with the Studio display. Thank you Guys...for all the guide and info.
...cloned 10.4, inserted the hdd, switched on, phew, some progress than before, but still ddnt boot, it was the rider logo with the "?".
tried booting externally from the Cube, still same, this really boggled me, as the the instead hdd did boot externally in a mac mini. Reset pram still same...
Took out the rams and tried with a single stick (had three in it).... Thank Jesus, the CUBE booted...YAHOOO!
i think it was the rams issue, apart from the earlier HDD issue..
slotted in all three sticks, but still one of it is not recognised
Well, from the consecutive failures in the PowerBook and iBook, this was soothing
...... now i can pair the Cube with the Studio display. Thank you Guys...for all the guide and info.
*Just read your last update, I didn't notice it when I wrote this*
Are you able to get it into OpenFirmware? Also I'd try reseating the RAM or putting in RAM of yours that know works, and try reseating the video card as someone else already said. Nice Cube though, even if it doesn't fully post.
*Update*
Check the cables to the internal drives? Does your external Tiger install find your internal drives at all? Maybe bad cables.
Are you able to get it into OpenFirmware? Also I'd try reseating the RAM or putting in RAM of yours that know works, and try reseating the video card as someone else already said. Nice Cube though, even if it doesn't fully post.
*Update*
Check the cables to the internal drives? Does your external Tiger install find your internal drives at all? Maybe bad cables.
Congrats on getting it to boot! This is my absolute favorite OS X system. I don't really have room to keep other computers set up but it is a system I'd lie to lay my hands on sometime.
The RAM ought to be easy enough to replace if that's the only issue.
The RAM ought to be easy enough to replace if that's the only issue.
Cheers, your suggetions and view are welcome and thank you.
No harm in suggesting, as it might be something which i had overlooked.
I just need to replace one of the rams or one of the slot has an issue or needs an air gun!
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Thank you, i am content that it boots now!
True.... Space ! Also the looks we get from home for piling these Macs!
Yeah, the ram or the slot needs some brushing.
What i want to do is run the earliest OS the Cube can run. I guess i am stuck with Cheetah.
Dont worry, ull get your Cube!
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