Other Going from 6s to XR, 11, or 12?

[robes1]

I need to replace my iPhone 6s soon, and I'm unsure whether to get the XR or 11, or maybe wait for the 12. Here in Canada, the 11 is about $200 CDN more than the XR. Not sure if it's worth it, since the XR seems to be pretty fast. The two advantages of the 11 is the better camera, and possibly longer future proofing?

My ideal phone would be in the 5.4-5.8" range, but the 11 Pro is out of my budget. Not sure if I should wait for the 12, since my 6S is starting to feel really slow and dated.

 

[mtneer]

If your 6s hasnt already died yet, then I would recommend waiting to see what comes out with the 12-family iPhones. If you don't feel getting a 12, at least you could score the previous generation models on a better deal then..

 

[tenordrum]

Am in a similar position, with a 7 that was my company phone, and now was given to me upon retirement. I would like a bigger screen, but at this point, waiting for the 12 especially if it builds in 5G support seems to make the most sense.

Of course that doesn't stop me from looking at all the "deals" out there, including open box phones.

 

[ericwn]

You outlined two major differences between 11 and XR already. Now you need to ask yourself what features you want in your iPhone.

Have you also looked at the new SE? Seems good value to me.

 

[TechLord]

The advantages of the 11 over the XR would be an extra year of updates, superior camera, new a13 chip, slightly better battery and 4GB of ram vs 3GB. I was in a similarish position a few weeks back, owner of the 8 considering the XR, 11 or waiting for the 12. I went with the 11 over the XR because its a bit more future proof due to the above reasons+ I wanted the ultra wide camera. The 12 could be delayed and I'm not personally bothered about 5g now but I know for some 5g is a big deal.

If having 5G + OLED is a big deal to you, I'd wait for the 12. If you just want a phone now, I personally think the 11 is better value than the XR even if it does cost more. It has some solid improvements. If the 6.1 inch models are simply too big, then you could always pick up an XS. The XS where I live is cheaper than the 11 and around the same price as the XR, not sure about Canada.

 

[murad_fourth]

I bought an iPhone 11 but it is too big for me. I can’t use it with only one-hand. I will therefore upgrade it with the 5.4 inch iPhone 12 which Apple will introduce in Fall 2020.

I suggest you to choose the iPhone 11. I use it since Fall 2019 and it is really fast. You can also use it for 4-5 years, i believe. However, it is your decision, of course.

 

[ian87w]

I need to replace my iPhone 6s soon, and I'm unsure whether to get the XR or 11, or maybe wait for the 12. Here in Canada, the 11 is about $200 CDN more than the XR. Not sure if it's worth it, since the XR seems to be pretty fast. The two advantages of the 11 is the better camera, and possibly longer future proofing?

My ideal phone would be in the 5.4-5.8" range, but the 11 Pro is out of my budget. Not sure if I should wait for the 12, since my 6S is starting to feel really slow and dated.

If you want a new iPhone now, I suggest the 2020 SE. Compared to your 6S, it will give you better photos, IP67 rating, and better battery life.

It is difficult to recommend the XR and 11 at this point since both of them will see a price drop when Apple announces the iPhone 12. If you can wait and intend to get the XR or 11, wait until September when Apple announce the iPhone 12, then the XR and 11 will be cheaper.

 

[Michael CM1]

I need to replace my iPhone 6s soon, and I'm unsure whether to get the XR or 11, or maybe wait for the 12. Here in Canada, the 11 is about $200 CDN more than the XR. Not sure if it's worth it, since the XR seems to be pretty fast. The two advantages of the 11 is the better camera, and possibly longer future proofing?

My ideal phone would be in the 5.4-5.8" range, but the 11 Pro is out of my budget. Not sure if I should wait for the 12, since my 6S is starting to feel really slow and dated.

I had a 7 Plus and just bought an iPhone 11. In all the reading and a few days of using the 11, the only thing I think I’ll miss is the 2x photo zoom.

The new gestures that replace the home button are an adjustment, but otherwise it has been smooth — aside from the phone falling out of my pocket the day after I got it. Thankfully it only slightly scratched the side and I have a case on the way.

I don’t think you can go wrong on any of the new phones. If you get a Xr, you save a little more money. The 11 gets you a good phone now. The 12 sounds like it’ll add an OLED display.

I went ahead and got a phone so I could get the $80 for my dad’s iPhone 6s (I gave him the 7 Plus because it’s a better phone and got a new battery last year). I also just started work and use GPS all the time, so the iPhone 11 loading much faster helps me out.

 

[44267547]

I need to replace my iPhone 6s soon, and I'm unsure whether to get the XR or 11, or maybe wait for the 12. Here in Canada, the 11 is about $200 CDN more than the XR. Not sure if it's worth it, since the XR seems to be pretty fast. The two advantages of the 11 is the better camera, and possibly longer future proofing?

My ideal phone would be in the 5.4-5.8" range, but the 11 Pro is out of my budget. Not sure if I should wait for the 12, since my 6S is starting to feel really slow and dated.

I just want to comment on your ‘future proofing’ retort in your post. If you’re receiving five years of iOS support, that would put the iPhone 11 around 2025 by the time support ends. I’d say that’s plenty ‘Futureproof’ when you look at five years of iOS updates.

Regardless, you should buy what’s in your ‘budget‘ regardless of someone else’s opinion, it really is about what you can afford {versus} want.

 

[1rottenapple]

id wait. OLED for 2020 is great for the cheaper iphone 12. I'm a fan of OLED now and wouldn't want to use an iphone with LCD. Its only 4 months left for a device you will have for the next few years.

 

[nordique]

Wait for 12!

 

[KOTN91]

A lot of people here have a vested interest in Apple and will therefore always recommend the newest and most expensive option. The 11 has very very little incremental value over an XR, and in some countries is considerably more expensive especially on monthly plans. Therefore I’d say the 11 is diminishing returns, and recommend the XR. Plus it comes in much nicer colours. 12 is unknown at this point. However XR will be supported for years and years yet

 

[I7guy]

A lot of people here have a vested interest in Apple and will therefore always recommend the newest and most expensive option.

Surprising how many xs max and pro max I saw on public transportation. So people are buying, even if the numbers or ratio is not known. I personally know many people who automatically go for the highest end model.

The 11 has very very little incremental value over an XR, and in some countries is considerably more expensive especially on monthly plans.

The 11 has very little incremental value over a 6s as they all can do most of the same things. That the price differs across countries has nothing to do with the relative value of a phone.

Therefore I’d say the 11 is diminishing returns, and recommend the XR. Plus it comes in much nicer colours. 12 is unknown at this point. However XR will be supported for years and years yet

Other then the camera and the myriad of updates for front and rear camera, smart hdr, 4K video etc and battery life, water resistancd and night mode....these updates could be worth something over the Xr. Of course, there would be those who don't care about the updates. But these updates are not diminishing returns, they are substantial feature increments.

 

[KOTN91]

Surprising how many xs max and pro max I saw on public transportation. So people are buying, even if the numbers or ratio is not known. I personally know many people who automatically go for the highest end model.

That’s a nice story, but not really relevant

The 11 has very little incremental value over a 6s as they all can do most of the same things. That the price differs across countries has nothing to do with the relative value of a phone.

I’d tend to disagree, both the XR and 11 are several generations newer and have big differences compared to a 6 era phone such as faceid, much more modern look, gestures, larger screen and a processor that is several generations newer. The 6S is also getting near end of life in terms of support. The differences between an XR and 11 are much more marginal. Yes, all 3 have the same functions but I feel that point is obtuse. Also the price delta is very relevant to the value of the upgrades if it differs substantially between countries

Other then the camera and the myriad of updates for front and rear camera, smart hdr, 4K video etc and battery life, water resistancd and night mode....these updates could be worth something over the Xr. Of course, there would be those who don't care about the updates. But these updates are not diminishing returns, they are substantial feature increments.

These small upgrades basically all revolve around the camera, which is already very good on the XR, hence diminishing returns. Not only that but they are boring upgrades. As for a marginally better water resistance, well I guess if you happen to drop your phone in 1.5m of water as opposed to 1m then you’d wish you’d bought the 11

 

[I7guy]

That’s a nice story, but not really relevant

It is relevant because at least in the NYC area one would expect to hardly see a niche product. Now maybe in other areas there isn't a max or pro max to be seen, but I just don't get the "vested interest" comment. Seems kind of biased.

I’d tend to disagree, both the XR and 11 are several generations newer and have big differences compared to a 6 era phone such as faceid, much more modern look, gestures, larger screen and a processor that is several generations newer. The 6S is also getting near end of life in terms of support. The differences between an XR and 11 are much more marginal. Yes, all 3 have the same functions but I feel that point is obtuse. Also the price delta is very relevant to the value of the upgrades if it differs substantially between countries

It depends on your definition of incremental. In line with what you are saying the differences between the 4s and 11 are even bigger. However, if anybody asks, I would recommend the iphone 11 over the Xr as imo, there offset in tech is greater than the diminishing returns for a net positive based on the price difference. This is the type of thing that has to be looked at country by country, can't generalize for the world.

These small upgrades basically all revolve around the camera, which is already very good on the XR, hence diminishing returns. Not only that but they are boring upgrades. As for a marginally better water resistance, well I guess if you happen to drop your phone in 1.5m of water as opposed to 1m then you’d wish you’d bought the 11

It so happens the most amount of updated features belong to the camera, which is why this isn't diminishing returns. You can't marginalize the hottest area of competition of the smartphones as if it is nothing. All in all, imo, the iphone 11 justifies the $$$ increment over the Xr. Let's be honest, if budget is the issue, the iphone SE 2020 wins the cost/value proposition.

 

[44267547]

Therefore I’d say the 11 is diminishing returns, and recommend the XR. Plus it comes in much nicer colours. 12 is unknown at this point. However XR will be supported for years and years yet

Ok, well let’s start with the obvious in your post...:which doesn’t make sense at all. You can’t say the 11 would have ‘diminishing returns‘, but yet the XR “would be supported for years and years“.( Like, What does that even mean?) The iPhone 11 and the XR are completely comparable, with the 11 exceeding in iOS updates past the XR in lifespan. The XR was the first of it’s generation, and yet Apple reduced the price of the iPhone 11 by ~$50 dollars, and that would have diminishing returns? Consumers look at value, not every single feature that’s included in the the phone.

 

[mvray]

I have a 6S and it still works fine. A bit laggy at times and battery life is not what it used to be. I'll hang in there until fall and probably get a new 12 then.

 

[kaielement]

If you can't wait to get a phone like your current phone is acting up get the new iPhone se. If you can wait see what the iPhone 12 is and upgrade then. But don't wait any longer then that.

 

[rui no onna]

It is relevant because at least in the NYC area one would expect to hardly see a niche product. Now maybe in other areas there isn't a max or pro max to be seen, but I just don't get the "vested interest" comment. Seems kind of biased.

With all those Wall Street traders? That's one of the places I expect to see a disproportionately high number of XS/11 Pro Max users. Another one is SF Bay area.

It so happens the most amount of updated features belong to the camera, which is why this isn't diminishing returns. You can't marginalize the hottest area of competition of the smartphones as if it is nothing. All in all, imo, the iphone 11 justifies the $$$ increment over the Xr. Let's be honest, if budget is the issue, the iphone SE 2020 wins the cost/value proposition.

OP already mentioned $200 CDN. I don't know what the relative value of that is in terms of purchasing power. Only OP can decide if the new features are worth it.

Just bought an 11 for family last December but if it had been $649 ($716 w/tax) for 128GB XR and $849 ($936 w/tax) for 128GB 11, I would've opted for the XR.

Mind, I think waiting for the 5.4" iPhone 12 is best as well (assuming the 6s is still tolerable). Pricing is expected to be smack dab between current XR and 11, it's got newer tech and a redesign, plus it's the size the OP prefers.

 

[robes1]

I think I'm gonna hold out until the 12 comes out. I'll try my best to stick with the 6s in the meantime.