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Hello!

I own a 11" core2duo 1.6 with 4gb ram and 128gb disc.
Will the new macbook 2015 1.1 with 8gb and 256gb be a upgrade? I see the RAM is double, but im wondering about the CPU.

My old 11" can do "everything" except Netflix.
 
Dont know but I can tell you I have a 13" macbook air and have tried the new macbook in store quite a few times and each time nothing about it impresses me to want it over my air 13"
 
Dont know but I can tell you I have a 13" macbook air and have tried the new macbook in store quite a few times and each time nothing about it impresses me to want it over my air 13"
How old is your 13" Macbook air?
 
I did that exact combo... Pita with the MacBook DOA now and them refusing to replace mine but yeah an upgrade for sure minus the ports
 
I made exactly the OP's swap, and it's definitely an upgrade. Performance is better, much nicer screen and longer battery life. Keyboard is great, lack of ports is no hardship (for me, at least).

I wouldn't go back.
 
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I made exactly the OP's swap, and it's definitely an upgrade. Performance is better, much nicer screen and longer battery life. Keyboard is great, lack of ports is no hardship (for me, at least).

I wouldn't go back.

i have not even had need to use the ports or adapter since getting the new macbook for a month now.
nice machine
 
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Since my 11" is my primary computer and I usually hook it to tv for tvseries I need the adapter. But its not a dealbreaker. I use a displayport adapter today as well. My battery has 2t30m juice now, 62% :)
Tried to replace it with a new battery from ebay, but the "batteryclone" got so hot that i swapped back to the old battery to be safe. Dont want the laptop to explode in my lap, but thats another story.

Im tempted but its a lot of money :)
I could buy the 2015 air, but the macbook is more tempting in SG.
 
Since my 11" is my primary computer and I usually hook it to tv for tvseries I need the adapter. But its not a dealbreaker. I use a displayport adapter today as well. My battery has 2t30m juice now, 62% :)
Tried to replace it with a new battery from ebay, but the "batteryclone" got so hot that i swapped back to the old battery to be safe. Dont want the laptop to explode in my lap, but thats another story.

Im tempted but its a lot of money :)
I could buy the 2015 air, but the macbook is more tempting in SG.
Whatever you do buy online dont buy from reseller in sg
 
Whatever you do buy online dont buy from reseller in sg
Im not sure what you mean?
I ment I would like the Macbook in color SpaceGrey (SG).
I live in Norway, Europe. Maybe you thought i ment Singapore? If SG is short for that =)
 
Im not sure what you mean?
I ment I would like the Macbook in color SpaceGrey (SG).
I live in Norway, Europe. Maybe you thought i ment Singapore? If SG is short for that =)
Oops sorry yes i thought that.
 
I went from a 2013 11" Air to a 1.1 rMB and I love it. No noticeable speed difference in the things I normally do, plus the gorgeous bigger display, double ram + storage, more battery, in the same size package.
 
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thanks for feedback. 2013 air and 2010 air is big difference, so if people are happy with going from 2011, 2012, 2013 airs to macbook air, i guess I will be happe as well =)

Is there any cons with the macbook except the ports and price? Known problems?
 
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I upgraded from a 13" air late 2010 and didn't regret the purchase at all now. rMB is blazing fast compared to the air. Battery life is not as bad as they say so.
This discussion is reminding me of the time the current design air was released. "No cd-drive! Core2Duo is too slow!", get used to change i say. This is the design of the future laptop/ultrabook and Apple is always going their own way. About the price, €1500 is alot but i just sold my air for €500 so
 
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thanks for feedback. 2013 air and 2010 air is big difference, so if people are happy with going from 2011, 2012, 2013 airs to macbook air, i guess I will be happe as well =)

Is there any cons with the macbook except the ports and price? Known problems?

I've not heard of any specific issues with the rMB as yet, apart from a few unlucky people who've had hardware faults of different kinds. But nothing out of the ordinary from what happens from time to time with any computer you could order - stuck keys, battery problems, RAM failures, kernel panics. I think it's too early to tell if there's any kind of recurring defect pattern specific to this computer, and there may well not be one anyway.

As for cons, in my opinion you pretty much already highlighted the two main ones - lack of ports and price. For some people the new keyboard design is a hurdle as well, to varying degrees. Some hate it, others don't love it but are OK with it, and still others really like it. Me personally, I found it weird at first but haven't had a hard time getting used to it and I'm now starting to like it quite a bit. The lack of ports question is a big one for some people, but really you're the only person who can judge if this is a roadblock for you or not. But the price I think is something that everyone has to think about seriously, unless you're someone who can just buy whatever you want whenever you feel like it. One review I heard (on a podcast discussion) gave a pretty realistic assessment of the price, at least for the base model. When you take into account the retina display which is probably the best display available in a computer of this class, the extremely fast integrated PCI storage, the 8GB RAM and other factors such as the very high build quality, good battery life and no fan, the base model price is quite reasonable. Some people disagree with this because they would consider the CPU as quite inferior to what you can get for similar money elsewhere including in Apple's own range. They might also say that it's a joke to sell a machine in this price range with only one port. But I think it's a mistake to assess this machine on a simple bang for your buck scale, and even if you do, the base model has enough technical boxes ticked to make it reasonable to not be under $1000. At least not yet.

The value for money factor becomes a bit harder to judge when you look at the top spec model, because then you enter into territory where you could easily buy a much more performance-oriented machine for the same money. However, at that point you're either looking at a machine that is nowhere near as portable, or you are looking at something a bit faster like an Air but with a very disappointing display compared to how beautiful the rMB's display is. Arguably it's not just a more beautiful display but it also makes the machine far more usable in meaningful ways for a lot of people.

Ultimately it comes down to what features are the most important to you and what you feel is an OK deal for the money you're spending. Coming from a 2010 MacBook Air, I think there's absolutely no reason to worry that the performance would be a let down, in fact I think you'd find it to be quite the contrary. Don't underestimate the extremely fast PCI storage - it has a huge impact on how fast the computer works. And also don't underestimate the display - it's really a massive improvement from any Air including the current ones, so this will be a huge upgrade in general to how you enjoy the computer in every way from writing to internet browsing to watching movies. Also another significant upgrade that you don't see written in the specs is just how vastly improved the speakers are. If you like watching movies or series, or listening to music while you work, it can't be overstated how shockingly good the speakers sound for a machine of this size. So if I were you, I'd forget about concerns that it will underperform compared to your Air - remember - in performance terms, just because you see "1.6" vs "1.1" for the CPU does not mean that the bigger number is faster, too many other factors are at work. The more important things to think about are how much you want to spend and whether the display and other things mentioned above are of value to you or not.
 
I've not heard of any specific issues with the rMB as yet, apart from a few unlucky people who've had hardware faults of different kinds. But nothing out of the ordinary from what happens from time to time with any computer you could order - stuck keys, battery problems, RAM failures, kernel panics. I think it's too early to tell if there's any kind of recurring defect pattern specific to this computer, and there may well not be one anyway.

As for cons, in my opinion you pretty much already highlighted the two main ones - lack of ports and price. For some people the new keyboard design is a hurdle as well, to varying degrees. Some hate it, others don't love it but are OK with it, and still others really like it. Me personally, I found it weird at first but haven't had a hard time getting used to it and I'm now starting to like it quite a bit. The lack of ports question is a big one for some people, but really you're the only person who can judge if this is a roadblock for you or not. But the price I think is something that everyone has to think about seriously, unless you're someone who can just buy whatever you want whenever you feel like it. One review I heard (on a podcast discussion) gave a pretty realistic assessment of the price, at least for the base model. When you take into account the retina display which is probably the best display available in a computer of this class, the extremely fast integrated PCI storage, the 8GB RAM and other factors such as the very high build quality, good battery life and no fan, the base model price is quite reasonable. Some people disagree with this because they would consider the CPU as quite inferior to what you can get for similar money elsewhere including in Apple's own range. They might also say that it's a joke to sell a machine in this price range with only one port. But I think it's a mistake to assess this machine on a simple bang for your buck scale, and even if you do, the base model has enough technical boxes ticked to make it reasonable to not be under $1000. At least not yet.

The value for money factor becomes a bit harder to judge when you look at the top spec model, because then you enter into territory where you could easily buy a much more performance-oriented machine for the same money. However, at that point you're either looking at a machine that is nowhere near as portable, or you are looking at something a bit faster like an Air but with a very disappointing display compared to how beautiful the rMB's display is. Arguably it's not just a more beautiful display but it also makes the machine far more usable in meaningful ways for a lot of people.

Ultimately it comes down to what features are the most important to you and what you feel is an OK deal for the money you're spending. Coming from a 2010 MacBook Air, I think there's absolutely no reason to worry that the performance would be a let down, in fact I think you'd find it to be quite the contrary. Don't underestimate the extremely fast PCI storage - it has a huge impact on how fast the computer works. And also don't underestimate the display - it's really a massive improvement from any Air including the current ones, so this will be a huge upgrade in general to how you enjoy the computer in every way from writing to internet browsing to watching movies. Also another significant upgrade that you don't see written in the specs is just how vastly improved the speakers are. If you like watching movies or series, or listening to music while you work, it can't be overstated how shockingly good the speakers sound for a machine of this size. So if I were you, I'd forget about concerns that it will underperform compared to your Air - remember - in performance terms, just because you see "1.6" vs "1.1" for the CPU does not mean that the bigger number is faster, too many other factors are at work. The more important things to think about are how much you want to spend and whether the display and other things mentioned above are of value to you or not.

Thanks for excellent post!

Ive had the new machine for one day now, and I'm super satisfied. The keyboard is a BLAST and the screen is so good.. When i compare it to the 11" the 11" just look so old and outdated. This machine is way more snappy than my old 11 inch 2010 model. Going from 1 hour battery to 8 is also nice. i also like the aspect ration on the screen better than on the 11inch.

Thanks for all feedback. So far I'm very satisfied.
Tried the dell xps13 a month ago but had to return it because of the adaptive brightness bug. Looks like I'm "stuck" with OS X for a couple of more years.
 
Good to hear it. Had a feeling the rMB would probably be a good fit for what you were looking for... have fun!
 
By the way I also have a 13 inch Macbook Air which all of a sudden seem to have a battery drain just because of the new Macbook comparison
 
By the way I also have a 13 inch Macbook Air which all of a sudden seem to have a battery drain just because of the new Macbook comparison
 
My old 1.6 2010 MBA 11" could only play 720p... Couldnt play 1080p youtube without lagging anymore...


This retina mb can play up to 1440p youtube (slight stutter) fine. Definitely an upgrade
 
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