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Interesting arguments for the ipod touch as a PDA, but seriously...do none of you depend on snooze-able alarms? Or tasks with alarm reminders? Those aren't "power-user" features...those are basic features of a PDA. And it's not that they can't be done, it's that Apple, for reasons unknown to anyone except maybe Steve Jobs, hates all things PDA-ish.
 
Interesting arguments for the ipod touch as a PDA, but seriously...do none of you depend on snooze-able alarms? Or tasks with alarm reminders? Those aren't "power-user" features...those are basic features of a PDA. And it's not that they can't be done, it's that Apple, for reasons unknown to anyone except maybe Steve Jobs, hates all things PDA-ish.

I do every Tuesday & Thursday.... so i don't have to look at the clock every 2 minutes to not be late picking a child up! LOL!! 12:57, put book down get out of car and walk to classroom. Perfect timing!

I hope they kick the PDA side up a notch with 3.0. It's not that i don't LIKE my Treo, i really do - but i have high hopes for the Touch.
 
I do every Tuesday & Thursday.... so i don't have to look at the clock every 2 minutes to not be late picking a child up! LOL!! 12:57, put book down get out of car and walk to classroom. Perfect timing!

I hope they kick the PDA side up a notch with 3.0. It's not that i don't LIKE my Treo, i really do - but i have high hopes for the Touch.

It's just that unless they release a task app of their own, you won't get alarmed tasks. Unless your touch is near wifi and can ping cupertino to ping you to tell you that you have an alarm that needs tending. Because that's a great use of resources....
 
It's just that unless they release a task app of their own, you won't get alarmed tasks. Unless your touch is near wifi and can ping cupertino to ping you to tell you that you have an alarm that needs tending. Because that's a great use of resources....

And last time i tried - i couldn't get free wi-fi at the school.... of course, there are new business on the other side of the wall, maybe i should check again! LOL!!

But i agree - such a brilliant way of doing them.... i'da been fired for coding things to do that. Clean, simple, direct.... of course, i learned from my Dad that got excited to get the upper 4k to program weather satellites. :p

The potential is there.....
 
Since when was the iPod touch a PDA?

As soon as I decided to use it as a PDA. There are plenty enough 3rd party apps that make it a pretty functional PDA, even if it's not the "perfect" one.

Compared to walking around with a bulky 'franklin day' with no calendar syncing, no contact syncing, limited paper space, no forwarding or re-occuring to-do's or calendar events, no music or video possibilities, no photo album, and definitely no automated graphs for tracking gas mileage, the iPod Touch is a great tool. Not to mention that it will always be easy to sell to upgrade due to Apples great advertising.
 
Yes I just got through the comments. It is a very good example of the user ability comparison between Palm and ITouch calendar.

I switched from Palm to Itouch over a month ago. I admit that Itouch is very nice tool and I like it very much, but the ToDo and calendar part is not user friendly at all. Seems like the programmers that made these tools should be force to use a palm for a while. They had lots of fun adding funy time wheels but it sucks compared to the intuity of the the Palm calendar app.

Anyway I stick with Itouch since there are lot of other good stuff. Hope that someone will make a better Calendar in the future since I doubt that Apple will do it. The Calendar on the iMac is not much better. It should be enough to take a look at Google calendar to learn something.

/petron
 
I understand your frustration, but to play devil's advocate: I just don't think you can ask an iphone or ipod touch to do email like a blackberry, game like a DS, organize like a PDA, take pictures like a point-and-shoot nikon, surf the internet like a netbook, and guide you like a Garmin. Oh, and be an ipod.

Don't get me wrong - apple bills it as being able to do email, play games, organize, take pics, surf, navigate, listen to music, and more (you can take out a couple of those on an iPT, but you see my point) - and so it does. But I don't see how anyone could make a single fit-in-your-pocket device that replicates the functionality of a half-dozen well designed and relatively expensive stand-alone devices.

Now, in the case of your calander complaints, the fixes are probably not as hard as I'm making them out to be, and I bet the iPT could in fact become a true PDA replacement. That's a great goal and something that Apple should strive for. But TJRiver is right: the iPT has never been touted as a PDA replacement. For now, the iphone and iPT are jacks of all trades, masters of a few - and that ain't bad.

Very well said.
The App Store restrictions can be annoying sometimes, but we live with them.
IMO, even when 3.0 comes out, it's doubtful there's going to any good calender app for the iPod Touch.
 
Apple just cares about selling apps and music.

thats very untrue, they've said many times "iTunes store is to sell hardware"..and when you look at the profits from hardware vs apps and music, its easy to see why...hardward is there money maker
 
So, nearly a year later and a new OS release just announced. Are we any better off? Think it possible to use an iPhone or iPod Touch as a PDA now?
 
That's a good question. :)

I went out and bought myself an iPod Touch... yeah, about a year ago, and I've strictly used it as a PDA with enhanced multimedia capabilities. It's been a great tool. It has its problems and it has its limitations... most of which are listed here in this thread. It IS frustrating dealing with some of the Apple imposed lockdowns, but it was a tradeoff I was willing to make. If I think about them for too long though, i get irked at apples lack of customer voiced innovation.

These are my main uses, and what I think about them.

1. Calendar:
I use Google Calendar with my wife. The built in auto sync whenever I walk into a Wi-Fi area is absolutely wonderful. I have Wi-Fi at home, so our calendars are very up to date. I've never run into a problem where I wished I had a 3G calendar sync, it's just not been that important. In GCal, I have reminders sent to me via text message. That's been a good workaround for event reminders. The reminders and alarms on the iPod are not very good. No vibrate, and volume affected.
As mentioned above (I think... didn't re-read the thread) the calendar input is slow and somewhat non-intuitive. The scroll wheels work, but I'd love to be able to click and drag to create an event, like in iCal or GCal, or even Outlook for that matter. One of Apples silly problems I guess. I know it'll not change, so I don't fuss about it. One of the reasons I'm looking at Android, now that it's becoming a formidable OS.

2. Contacts:
Nearly perfect. Syncs with my Google Contacts. Only complaint is I don't have my groups synced from Google Contacts to the iPod.

3. Internet:
As much as I agree with Apple that Flash is outdated and should die soon, it's still very common. Having support would be nice. The screen is too small to make browsing really intuitive, but it works in a pinch (pun intended).

4. Music:
I don't listen to music, but I do listen to CDs for personal growth. My collection is quite huge, so my entire library is in iTunes. Since I have more CDs than iPod space, I made a smart playlist that only syncs about 5 gigs of CDs onto my iPod at once, and makes sure that the track has never been listened to before. If it's been listened to more than once, when I sync my iPod, it replaces that track with one that I haven't heard yet. This has been a great system, always having new content on the go. As far as audio goes, I can't imagine it getting much better than this. Great system.

5. Maps:
Here's where I really wish I had 3G. :) Basically, I search for directions before I leave the house. I switch it to list mode, and refer to it like I printed them off of google maps. It works well, but not my favorite. The program itself is very well made though, with street view, bookmarking, and in larger cities has a comprehensive public transit directions system. Very well made... but somewhat crippled in the iPod.

6. Everything else:
Third party apps are the way to go with a lot of things. The main things I use are as follows. Voxie recorder for lectures and seminars. Docs To Go for word editing and creation, especially with Google Docs... I actually use GDocs now. Scriptures for on the go reference or reading. FCTasks (needs help, but does what it does well). PDFReader. Speed Test to see how well I'm actually getting a Wi-Fi signal. And iStake for all you LDS folks out there.

That's the main stuff that I keep using. I use it 98% as a tool for business, and 2% for the occasional free game I download for when I'm bored. It's served me well. I'm considering switching to the EVO for awesome PDA smartphone action, but haven't locked it in yet. Personally I wouldn't go out of my way to switch carriers to get the iPhone. The advantages are not great enough when compared to what the iPod can do already.


That's my year long experience with the iPod as a PDA. I guess the one thing I've never been able to do well with any electronic device is plan out my day. Yes I can schedule stuff in my calendar, but I have not yet found a way to quickly plan out every hour with backup plans etc. My old franklin day had notes all over the scheduling section.
 
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