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I'd say it was a successful launch and I've been enjoying the benefits of using mine (security, convenience, daily cash, and info transparency). The look and feel of the card is nice too, but pretty low on my priority list.

Going forward, I'd very much like to see:
  • Data export (Excel or csv, with category field)
  • Link spouse accounts and combine purchase history
These are really important to me and I applied for this card hoping/expecting those features will come.
Apple did mention they will be adding data export, but no timeline was given iirc. I think Quicken/Mint and excel/CVS would be a good start. They haven’t committed to authorized users afaik.
 
Every time I see news about the “success” of the Apple Card I get a little bit sad.

I was, until just a few months ago, in quite a lot of debt. I worked damn hard to get myself out of it and it’s an amazing feeling to know I no longer owe any money to anybody. Everything I earn is my own now.

Of course, everybody is entitled to spend their own money however they choose and take on debts as they see fit but I do hope Apple via Goldman Sachs is lending responsibly.

I was stupid and I’m sure most people are more sensible than I was. I still don’t believe it’s healthy to normalise buying things with money you don’t yet have.

As for the perks of buying on a credit card, I do now have an Amex charge card. There’s no credit limit, no interest and some great benefits but the balance has to be paid in full every month. The best of both worlds for me.

I can understand your remorse, (I’ve been there in the past but like you learned from my mistake) as well as your concern for others. But credit cards can be and are an awesome financial tool. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there will be a ton of people in debt with their ACs but there will also be a ton of people who pay them off monthly.
 
Apple Card is just like any other credit card. You gotta be responsible or you will be in debt. After I got out of credit card debt a while back, I vowed to never pay interest on credit card again. These days I use credit cards for cash back and other perks. Apple Card has been great for me for Apple purchases (3% cash back) and Apple Pay (2%). They also gave me the card at I believe the lowest interest they offer with pretty good credit limit. So it’s definitely a good card for me, but still at the end of the day, it’s just a credit card. Responsible spending and auto payment of statement balance is the way to go just like with every other card out there.
 
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Its right for me!
It may not be the highest cash-back, but I love the ENTIRE package: cash back with real cash available the next day, easy access to my spending from my phone, easy access to my monthly account statement (pdf) from the same phone app, ability to pay my balance from my phone with an easy ability to see how much interest I'm going to pay if I don't pay in full.
Can't say these features are for everyone, but they work for me: "it just works".
Just like, "why couldn't premium watch makers make a link bracelet which doesn't require tools to adjust?", I ask why can't a credit card make using and paying a credit card "empowering" and "fun"?
 
It bothers me when people make a point that those who borrow money by using a CC and paying interest is "irresponsible" but going out and buying things that are obviously price-inflated, but paying it off each month is "responsible"?

I don't think there's a single definition of responsible vs irresponsible usage of credit but scenarios where they lead to bad credit could lean towards irresponsible. Carrying interest and ultimately paying it off is not one of those scenarios, but carrying interest without the ability to pay it off I would argue is irresponsible but there are exceptions and differing opinions to everything.
 
I can understand your remorse, (I’ve been there in the past but like you learned from my mistake) as well as your concern for others. But credit cards can be and are an awesome financial tool. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there will be a ton of people in debt with their ACs but there will also be a ton of people who pay them off monthly.

The average person in California has over $10,000 in credit card debt. 69% of Americans have $1000 or less in savings.
 
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The average person in California has over $10,000 in credit card debt. 69% of Americans have $1000 or less in savings.

Another deceptive fake news statistic:
The median American household currently holds about $12,330 across these same types of accounts.
because
Roughly 83% of savings are in located in retirement accounts like IRAs and workplace-sponsored retirement savings plans like 401(k)s.

Somebody probably got that number from "savings accounts" which are a horrible deal for actually saving money. Plus they counted people like kids (20% of the population) who are saving birthday money, hence the use of household as a unit, not per captia.
 
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you were being petty) i also expected a lower interest rate, but i also pay everything off right away, so i couldn't care less. i do want to talk to them about increasing my credit limit at some point...)

Why?
 

Having a high credit utilization (percent of credit limit utilized) hurts your credit score.

It also creates issues if you need to make a large purchase. For example, you want to buy something that's $3000 but you have cards with $2.5k+$2.5k.

On the other hand it's normal for cards to give you a small credit limit and up it after a few billing cycles, in order to protect against identity theft fraud.
 
I have a Visa with a 9.25% interest rate. Best Apple/GS will do is over 17%. Pass.
When I can pay in full, I'll use a card that will double the warranty.
The cash back is a total waste if you ever carry a balance. Fools gold.
I fail to understand the appeal of this card.
Carrying a balance is the only element of fool in the equation.

2% cash back on all the locations ApplePay is taken is an industry leading reward given the number of accepted locations and also offer 3% on several places and no fees.

Solid card
 
As I stated in another thread. Make an umbrella 4%-5% cash back unlimited and I’ll drop all my cards
 
But isn't there a discount for turning autopay on too? I believe it's $5 per line. So depending on your bill that could beat the 3%.

Couldn’t you turn on auto pay, but still pay your bill a couple of days before in the store? I am not sure if they would cancel the auto payment once the system sees a payment was made.
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The 3% is in addition to the $5 per line auto pay discount which I signed up for as well - but in order to get the 3% you have to physically pay your bill at the T-Mobile store. There was a Mac rumors article that came out last month mentioning the 3% at T-Mobile

So how do you it to avoid triggering the auto-pay? You go and pay in the store a few days before your auto pay is due and that stops it from automatically charging you?
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I have a Visa with a 9.25% interest rate. Best Apple/GS will do is over 17%. Pass.
When I can pay in full, I'll use a card that will double the warranty.
The cash back is a total waste if you ever carry a balance. Fools gold.
I fail to understand the appeal of this card.

wow that’s a heck of a rate you’re getting. Prime rate is 4.75 which means the issuing bank is only making 4.50% spread. That’s unheard of..... 4.50% is not even worth lending an unsecured loan for a bank.
 
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Every time I see news about the “success” of the Apple Card I get a little bit sad.

I was, until just a few months ago, in quite a lot of debt. I worked damn hard to get myself out of it and it’s an amazing feeling to know I no longer owe any money to anybody. Everything I earn is my own now.

Of course, everybody is entitled to spend their own money however they choose and take on debts as they see fit but I do hope Apple via Goldman Sachs is lending responsibly.

I was stupid and I’m sure most people are more sensible than I was. I still don’t believe it’s healthy to normalise buying things with money you don’t yet have.

As for the perks of buying on a credit card, I do now have an Amex charge card. There’s no credit limit, no interest and some great benefits but the balance has to be paid in full every month. The best of both worlds for me.
Great job for working your way out! I’m in the process of it.

At the end of the day, a card is a tool. You use it for good or bad. If you let it rack up debt then that’s one way of using it, and most, like you and I did exactly that and now we’re quite literally paying for it. It’s just a matter of responsible usage.

What’s even more shocking about this card is that $700m in debt they racked up in *the first month* of using it.
 
That’s to be expected. How does in expect otherwise? How does one expect these two companies to do business with a firewall of data between them. Similar to the cell phone companies.
I expect apple to not be a hypocrite. Always marketing them as a privacy protector but will ignore privacy if it makes them money.
 
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I expect apple to not be a hypocrite. Always marketing them as a privacy protector but will ignore privacy if it makes them money.
The thing is Apple isn’t hypocritical. It’s within your right to say they are but you didn’t answer my question and doesn't mean that they are (It also doesn't mean that if there is one thing in this huge infrastructure that isn't to your liking they are hypocritical either).

If one thought about this one would have to understand there has to be data interchange between the two companies to make this type of arrangement possible.

At any rate, it doesn’t really matter what we think, seems like Apple is doing just fine.
 
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Yet Apple won't let me transfer my Barclays account to an Apple Card.

it’s 2 different banks. No card would let you do that. If you wanted to transfer from one type of chase card to another type of chase card for example that would work.... but you can’t transfer from a Barclays card to a Goldman Sachs card.... that’s common sense
 
As I stated in another thread. Make an umbrella 4%-5% cash back unlimited and I’ll drop all my cards

Can't do 4% or more without an annual fee. Can't even really do 3% across the board. Merchant's fees are one of the primary ways they make money (that and interest charges) when they don't charge an annual fee and it's something like 2-4% for merchant's fees, with much of that going into the cashback pile (1% for physical card and 2% for Apple Pay, disregarding special promos and Apple purchases). 4% would mean losing all the merchant's fee and then they'd have to make up for it with annual fees. Also add in expenses need to be paid (system upkeep, fraud costs, etc) And I don't think they want an annual fee with the Apple Card, clearly there are lots of cards out there with an annual fee that could offer a better deal through airline miles or points rather than cashback since the average user of such cards are usually global travelers who do frequently book airline tickets and hotels and such.
 
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Just a regular guy here, but I’d say that sounds pretty successful. I love mine and hope they keep adding more places that do 3% cash back or higher and other incentives.

Wouldn’t mind a 5% promo or something every now and again either. ;)
We've all learned to love Big Brother.
 
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