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Just a correction here: there are apps that can address more than 4GB of RAM. I'm using Matlab in Vista and it will use however much isabailable when doing large calculations. I've got 8GB right now and routinely need to use the pagefile so I'd like to upgrade to more. More cores the better too, obviously.

Correct... But you are using Vista 64bit :)
 
I wish Apple would update something in the Mac Pros a bit more regularly.

I'm looking to buy one end of September time and its looking like I'll be buying the same box I could have got have got 9 months ago for the same price. Almost unheard of in the tech world. Even if they upgraded the GPU/RAM/HDD in the base spec it would make me a bit less loathed to buy towards the end of the 'cycle'.

I suppose I could probably hold out a few more months for Nehalem but my iMac is becoming a drag. On the other hand the buyers guide says the average time for update is only 3 months away so fingers crossed...
 
I wish Apple would update something in the Mac Pros a bit more regularly.

I'm looking to buy one end of September time and its looking like I'll be buying the same box I could have got have got 9 months ago for the same price. Almost unheard of in the tech world. Even if they upgraded the GPU/RAM/HDD in the base spec it would make me a bit less loathed to buy towards the end of the 'cycle'.

I suppose I could probably hold out a few more months for Nehalem but my iMac is becoming a drag. On the other hand the buyers guide says the average time for update is only 3 months away so fingers crossed...

Well the GPU, RAM and HDD is all they can upgrade. Intel has released no new workstation-class CPUs (and won't before Nehalem) so there is also no need to release a new chipset/systemboard.

Apple could increase the base RAM to 4GB and the base HDD to 500MB, but frankly the Mac Pro is about the cheapest 8-way Xeon workstation in the market (at least from the majors) so Apple would just be eating into their margins a couple hundred bucks for no real reason...
 
It is and it can address all the RAM in the system.

However, the applications running on it also need to be 64-bit to address more then 4GB of RAM themselves.
That first statement is only partially true. The Leopard kernel is not 64-bit. They did that for compatibility. That's the reason Leopard can still run on 32-bit processors such as the Core Solo.
 
I got my NIB 2.8 2 quad core stock macpro last week for $2465 shipped. Yes, it's a good time to buy.

Where did you get that price and what does NIB stand for?

Acronym Definition
NIB National Industries for the Blind
NIB National Institute of Biology (Ljubljana, Slovenia)
NIB National Insurance Board
NIB National Intelligent Bureau
NIB National Irish Bank
NIB National Irrigation Board (Philippines)
NIB Nativity In Black
NIB NATO Intelligence Board
NIB Naval Infantry Brigade
NIB Navigation Information Bulletin
NIB Network Interface Board
NIB New In Box
NIB Newly Initiated Brother (fraternities)
NIB News in Brief
NIB NIMA Integration Board
NIB No International Bidders (eBay)
NIB Non-Interference Basis
NIB Nordic Investment Bank
NIB Not in Bin
NIB Not in Budget
NIB Not-to-Interfere-Basis
NIB Notified Inspection Body
NIB Número de Identificação Bancária
NIB Nuova Italia Bibliografica
NIB Neighbor Information Base
NIB Network in a Box
NIB Network Information Base
NIB Network Interface Boards
NIB Network Interface Box
NIB Node Initialization Block
 
That first statement is only partially true. The Leopard kernel is not 64-bit. They did that for compatibility. That's the reason Leopard can still run on 32-bit processors such as the Core Solo.

So how is Leopard addressing up to the 32GB you can shove into a Mac Pro? PAE?
 
So how is Leopard addressing up to the 32GB you can shove into a Mac Pro? PAE?

As I understand it, that's how it's done in Tiger.

As far as I know, the kernel in Leopard is available in 32 and 64 bit versions.
 
In the market but no way will I get a Mac Pro yet...

I'm wanting to get my hands on a new Mac Pro but there is no chance I will be shelling out for a high-end machine that doesn't come with at least a 500GB hard drive or 4GB RAM. The RAM is kind of forgiven but 320GB??? Get serious!!! I know it's not much extra to add on but surely this should be the standard now!!!

What's the likelihood of an intermediary update between now and the new processor next year?
 
What's the likelihood of an intermediary update between now and the new processor next year?

I imagine it will be driven by Mac Pro sales. We might see a boost in Q4 because some folks (like myself) will be holding off waiting for the Nehalem's, so Apple could increase memory and HDD capacities to spur sales.
 
I'm wanting to get my hands on a new Mac Pro but there is no chance I will be shelling out for a high-end machine that doesn't come with at least a 500GB hard drive or 4GB RAM. The RAM is kind of forgiven but 320GB??? Get serious!!! I know it's not much extra to add on but surely this should be the standard now!!!

What's the likelihood of an intermediary update between now and the new processor next year?

While the RAM and HD's are a little skimpy they are the easiest and cheapest performance enhancers to upgrade.
 
I think that yes! and one good reason its beacuse this last model are so tested! I never buy a first gen mac product! never... and the next mac pro comming with new case (its the rummor) and well this 08 mac pro are best! I buy one 3 months ago and I expect have it on my hands 3 years... later I say bye bye and buy a new... (for that time the new are tested too)

lucky with your buy! :)
 
I think that yes! and one good reason its beacuse this last model are so tested! I never buy a first gen mac product! never... and the next mac pro comming with new case (its the rummor) and well this 08 mac pro are best! I buy one 3 months ago and I expect have it on my hands 3 years... later I say bye bye and buy a new... (for that time the new are tested too)

lucky with your buy! :)

huh..?
 
i've decided to wait until they make the base model at least 500 MB, which could happen on the next update whether its major or minor. it should (hopefully) also drive down the price the the 1 TB upgrade.
 
i've decided to wait until they make the base model at least 500 MB, which could happen on the next update whether its major or minor. it should (hopefully) also drive down the price the the 1 TB upgrade.

Oh... so 8 cores, 32GB of ram, nVidia graphics, RAID option is not worthy the $99 HD (I'm talking full 500GB and not the 180GB difference) you can buy at any store?? Not mentioning you can drop 4 more whatever HDs you want in there...

I have never heard of a more stupid reason.
 
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