Of course what I wrote is speculation as evidence by my use of the words "A more likely explanation...". The difference between you and I is I'm not attempting to pass my statements off as fact.
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SDAVE
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Yes, a touchscreen laptop may be good for medicine & maybe even architecture firms to show things to clients, but not for others.
Something more accurate like a Wacom tablet or a Cintiq is used for the creative industry.
In the early 2000's touchscreen laptops were readily available, and I remember people using it in college for taking notes, but that's about it. It may be more accurate now, but still not a viable option.
Not that I will buy one, but I think it's disgusting that here in the UK they have increased the cost of the Mac Pro by 500 pounds sterling, or a sixth of its cost in the name of 'Brexit', I have never heard such a BS excuse for price gouging as that! It does NOT cost you a sixth more to import into the UK!!!!
It's utterly deplorable what they have done.
Sorry just wanted to add my rant. Oh and they have not changed the computer one little bit, just massively increased the price!
It's utterly deplorable what they have done.
Sorry just wanted to add my rant. Oh and they have not changed the computer one little bit, just massively increased the price!
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Sorry, but that is something I can't agree. I could say lots of things about Windows10, "amazing experience" is NOT one of them. As far as open standards etc, hmmm ... just no. Anyway, MacOSX is STILL Unix. And that's not a bad thing for the developer.
They have not increased the cost, they have rationally responded to the change in exchange rates. It costs pretty much exactly the same.* It's just that the Pound is worth less. England voted for Brexit, fully knowing that there would be fall-out. Just be glad you still live in one of the greatest financial centers in the world, and that Brexit hasn't caused all that much pain (yet, at least).
Imagine what a Mac Pro would cost in Zimbabwe. You almost couldn't count all the zeros! Bring local-denominated cash to a store and they would laugh. "Toss it in the furnace - money is worth less than firewood!," they might say.
(*Of course, the fact that they haven't decreased the cost over these many years, nor upgraded any components, is the real shame.)
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Oh dear, trying to rationalise how it costs a sixth more for the Mac Pro products to be imported into the UK now.... go and spend all that extra money then and feel happy, believing all the marketing spin you're being fed. Let's not forget the hardware is over THREE YEARS old and costs Apple a hell of a lot less now to make then it did when it was launched..
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OP you do realize that this is not the Apple forum, right? They have their own site its https://discussions.apple.com/content. The formate is a little jacked up but you should be able to figure it out.
PowerGala
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Yes, which is why it's nice to have a wide variety of options that cater to many different people's needs. From what I've been reading from artists who have used the Surface Studio, the Surface Studio has actually surpassed the Clintiq and has done so at a very competitive price. ($3000 for the 28 inch Studio vs $2500 for the 27 inch Clintiq tablet which requires a PC or Mac to run) Apple has really neglected the creatives and we have been seeing a bit of an exodus because of that. (As of now, 2 of the 3 Surface Studio configurations are sold out)
Apple really should make more products that cater to more people's needs as opposed to only focusing on a few products. It's frustrating as hell for people who need a standalone desktop or something else when Apple neglects that sector.
I'm sorry Apple, but a laptop is not a workstation.
That's a support forum. If you rant there, they'll remove your post.
OK, you go on believing that the Pound (or any currency) is always worth the same no matter what your politicians do and your very own public - that is to say, you - voted for.
JimGoshorn
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Yes, the Surface Studio actually has a higher resolution than a Cintiq of approximately the same size which surprised me a bit.
But what you call "my statements" is actually a report by a well-known IT website on actual actions by Microsoft. Yet to you it's "speculation" and "statements passed off as fact", and prefer to pull out of your rear end "a more likely explanation". Who cares about what actually Microsoft already did 6 months ago, right?
First you imprudently said it was a decade since Microsoft did that kind of thing. Proved awesomely wrong, you now just... what? Chant "I don't believe you"?
The difference between you and me is... well, big.
(And all of this without even addresing the unreasonability of the "a decade ago" excuse. Even if that was true, would that make them suddenly OK in your book? Sick.)
pat500000
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Actually no I didn't and I didn't vote 'this government' in either. I just happen to you know, live in the country and see prices on everything and read and watch my countries media coverage of it all... Apple seem to be the ONLY company putting prices up by a sixth...
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Where? I asked you for supporting proof and I have yet to see it. Did I miss it?
I'm not denying they did it. I'm asking you to support your assertion they bought they company merely to kill off the product. So far I have not seen the requested support.
Did what kind of thing? Kill of a product line? I don't recall saying that.
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My take away from his posts is not that the Pound is always worth the same. It's that the change is too large to be solely accounted for in currency fluctuations.
SDAVE
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No one in the professional creative industry in graphic design will ever use a Windows machine.
No. It's just one product that sticks out for you at the moment. Everything that Britain imports has already or will soon adjust (with perhaps some exceptions made for strategic, e.g. market share, purposes). Just like what happens to every country every day all around the world given the high velocity of global trade.
Anyway, don't give up hope. For all anyone knows, Britain might come out well ahead in the end. You've got a lot going for you.
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No. One year ago (just to pick an arbitrary but meaningful span of time, keeping in mind that the Mac Pro has been around for 3 years), the Pound was about 1.54 U.S. dollars. Today it's about 1.22 dollars. That change is larger than the "1/6th" figure that the poster noted.
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My comment was not intended to endorse his argument. Merely to point out what I believe he's trying to say.
I understand. But despite feeling his pain - when has Apple been a "value" manufacturer? - that was an incorrect assumption as well.
Anyway, unless there are further important debates on the matter, I'll put playing economist on pause for now.
Apparently you don't because you continue to argue your point with me instead of him.
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phrehdd
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How far back does one need to go? Microsoft did that from early on. Other types of companies did that before we had home computers. Crushing competition has taken on many forms and is not really all that "new."
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phrehdd
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I did look at some of the promos for this Microsoft product and while I wish it had a couple of more items within, it certainly does compete with the iMac, Cintiq, and more and in some areas completely leap frogs the iMac. When we talk form and function, the Studio has it over the iMac in terms of real function first and then reasonable form. If this Microsoft offering allowed for more than 32gigs RAM the jump from Apple might have been faster for some pros in the photo/graphic/vid-movie industry.
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