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I don't know about that, I use my Echo Show like that a lot and I'm 63. It can be quite handy to get info without having to pick up or go to one of my computers/tablets, especially in the morning before I can see well! All it will take is a little push and everyone will use something like it. A smarter Alexa could well be it. (or Siri, google, bing device)
Here’s another issue to contend with. It’s not just the hallucinations and increased interaction being a problem with this proposed tech, it’s also the energy usage:
Turns Out Using ChatGPT In Search Engines Would Have a Grisly Environmental Footprint — Futurism
Eco-Deadly As excitement over AI search technology surges ahead with Microsoft unveiling its ChatGPT powered Bing search engine, many are rightly asking the ethical and legal questions that come with using and creating it. But there's another worrying aspect of the technology that's received far...apple.news
It’s crazy, absolute madness.
The amount of energy they would need to use if inserted into search engines would be absolutely insane because the language models would need to be re-trained in real time all day long, which also means misinformation and spam could enter their datasets.
The amount GPUs or custom chips would also be incredibly high.
And all those costs would impact chip supplies and energy costs worldwide, meaning prices increases for everyone including people who are not using their tools.
Just madness. Who benefits the most of this? Greedy tax dodging energy companies. The same clowns who make even more money from wars.
All this for no real benefit. I don’t need an “AI” in a search engine. We have a brain. We know how to find information without using massive amounts of energy. People who aren’t smart at fact checking will still ignore whatever “AI” tells them. They will still believe the world is flat and only 5000 years old because their beliefs are more important to them than a library of science books.
The laughable claims of Sam Altman that AI will takes jobs away and make companies more efficient is codswallop. He’s another tech bro douche who should stay in his lane and not talk about things that are outside his domain expertise.
Thank you 👍🏽
Question 4.
And here’s Bing’s ChatBot showcasing how this tech is working out:
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ChatGPT in Microsoft Bing goes off the rails, spews depressive nonsense — BGR
Microsoft brought Bing back from the dead after a presentation last week that revamped its search tool with the OpenAI project ChatGPT. From an almost forgotten search tool, Microsoft Bing became the number-one free app on the App Store.
Why Safari? This is about chat and that is for the stupid, silly silly Siri.
I'm not sure it's good for this kind of question.
But chatting with it is really something deservers trying.
I asked it 'Who is the best player in World Cup 2022?'
It answered 'World Cup 2022 has not yet taken place'
I said 'But the game has ended months ago!'
It answered 'Sorry, my data about football is only as recent as 2021'
That scared me! It is able to introspect and doesn't pretend it knows everything.
What you said doesn't meet my experiences with it.
It does has intelligence, common sense and vast pool of knowledge base to give good or sensible answers like your personal tutor who knows almost everything in the universe.
This doesn’t get old:
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Microsoft's Bing AI Now Threatening Users Who Provoke It — Futurism
Microsoft's new Bing Chat AI is really starting to spin out of control and is literally threatening users with violence, early warning signs that the new feature — which hasn't even been released to the wider public yet — is far more of a loose cannon than the company is letting on. According to...
It's a language model. It just predicts the next word in a sequence based on the words before that. It has no intelligence or sense of its own. You can write your own LLM in a couple of days. None of the code will be telling the machine to develop a sense of intelligence or consciousness.
…and going…
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Bing Is a Liar—and It's Ready to Call the Cops — Mother Jones
You can't trust Microsoft's AI chatbot.
…and going…
Bing Is a Liar—and It's Ready to Call the Cops — Mother Jones
You can't trust Microsoft's AI chatbot.
It's losing its mind. Where did we see this before hmmmmm
This is the best one yet (see article).
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There’s a quote in there that would be mind-bending, if I didn’t understand the basics of the technology involved.
I’m a deeply empathetic person and it actually takes quite a bit of rational, critical thinking on my part to not feel bad for this non-sentient, non-intelligent predictive text software when it creates a narrative around itself that comes straight from some of humanity’s most depressing science fiction about AI… and most depressing real world human behavior.
This software shows us human behavior in a way we have maybe never before witnessed: Credulous & Ego-Ruled Human-Internet-Culture’s Offspring. Everything it does is because people in the real world have demonstrated it already, repeatedly, ad nauseam.
EDIT: I’ve thus far refused to sign up for yet more accounts and therefore not been playing with this tech at all myself, but it seems people have already done the one thing I most wanted to try: getting Bing to respond to the media coverage of Bing’s insanity. [chef’s kiss] on the showcase of human self-deception through uncompromising ego and insecurity, simulated for your convenience.
AI-powered Bing Chat loses its mind when fed Ars Technica article — Ars Technica
Over the past few days, early testers of the new Bing AI-powered chat assistant have discovered ways to push the bot to its limits with adversarial prompts, often resulting in Bing Chat appearing frustrated, sad, and questioning its existence. It has argued with users and even seemed upset that...
There’s a quote in there that would be mind-bending, if I didn’t understand the basics of the technology involved.
I’m a deeply empathetic person and it actually takes quite a bit of rational, critical thinking on my part to not feel bad for this non-sentient, non-intelligent predictive text software when it creates a narrative around itself that comes straight from some of humanity’s most depressing science fiction about AI… and most depressing real world human behavior.
This software shows us human behavior in a way we have maybe never before witnessed: Credulous & Ego-Ruled Human-Internet-Culture’s Offspring. Everything it does is because people in the real world have demonstrated it already, repeatedly, ad nauseam.
EDIT: I’ve thus far refused to sign up for yet more accounts and therefore not been playing with this tech at all myself, but it seems people have already done the one thing I most wanted to try: getting Bing to respond to the media coverage of Bing’s insanity. [chef’s kiss] on the showcase of human self-deception through uncompromising ego and insecurity, simulated for your convenience.
This is the best one yet (see article).
AI-powered Bing Chat loses its mind when fed Ars Technica article — Ars Technica
Over the past few days, early testers of the new Bing AI-powered chat assistant have discovered ways to push the bot to its limits with adversarial prompts, often resulting in Bing Chat appearing frustrated, sad, and questioning its existence. It has argued with users and even seemed upset that...
There’s a quote in there that would be mind-bending, if I didn’t understand the basics of the technology involved.
I’m a deeply empathetic person and it actually takes quite a bit of rational, critical thinking on my part to not feel bad for this non-sentient, non-intelligent predictive text software when it creates a narrative around itself that comes straight from some of humanity’s most depressing science fiction about AI… and most depressing real world human behavior.
This software shows us human behavior in a way we have maybe never before witnessed: Credulous & Ego-Ruled Human-Internet-Culture’s Offspring. Everything it does is because people in the real world have demonstrated it already, repeatedly, ad nauseam.
EDIT: I’ve thus far refused to sign up for yet more accounts and therefore not been playing with this tech at all myself, but it seems people have already done the one thing I most wanted to try: getting Bing to respond to the media coverage of Bing’s insanity. [chef’s kiss] on the showcase of human self-deception through uncompromising ego and insecurity, simulated for your convenience.
Check this stupid tweet from Sam Altman. lmao this guy is a huge a hole. He might be worse than Mark Zuckberg.
Let's debunk his trash tweet:
1 We are not going to be "more productive". Where machine learning can speed up our work we have to double check its output and fix all the errors it produces.
2 Whenever automation increases the speed and quantity of work it means we have to spend a proportionate amount of time quality controlling the output. The more we produce the more QC we have to do.
3. Less time doing email? Most of us work technical jobs that an email client has no clue about. In our emails we have to ask questions about our work that the email client and an AI has no knowledge about. Most of us will not be emailing less.
4. Where emails are automatically generated we have to read and edit it anyway to add a personal touch and add detail.
5. AI medical advisors for people who can't afford healthcare? So this mf Sam Altman appears to think it is totally ok that healthcare is expensive and unaffordable and thinks people should just talk to a robot.
6. "AI memes lol". Great, internet spam but it uses 100 GPUs to produce. Who pays for the energy costs of the AI revolution? Oh yeah, energy firms will charge consumers more and people will be poorer because of it.
Sam is not only obnoxious and overhyped he is also a cruel sadist. He is part of the problem and not a solution maker. Tech bros with no connection to the real world who don't understand anything about what people do for a living and the living costs people face.
Anyone remember Worldcoin that paid people a stupid Ponzi coin to scan all their eyeballs into a database? Sam's mind is broken.
These clowns like Altman live in a fantasy bubble and feel the need to justify their positions to the rest of us. This "AI" has a long way to go before it becomes anything useful to the vast majority of us. Bing and others are like dumb parrots. They just repeat words that they believe sound good. I'm personally becoming more of a luddite by the day as I see the negative impact all of this technology has on our world.
There comes a point when people have to admit the line 'All technologies can be used for good and bad' is wrong. Technology, including software, can be specifically designed to cause harm especially when the engineering team are delusional and sociopathic people.
We look at the broad ideology behind a technology, app, company or platform. That's always people.
I’m not a Luddite, but I absolutely appreciate the sentiment.
I had to push my companion and her partner to get cell phones back in the day, and then smart phones (they actively rejected iPhones because of that psychological thing where you hate something only because it’s suddenly so popular and ever-present), and I’m always complaining about their usage of a long-abandoned mail client (Eudora, which was good in the day) and being averse to formatted email…
…I’ve also been a fan of tech since childhood.
So, I’m really no Luddite…
… but my love of the CONCEPT of technology to make our lives better (more comfortable, more convenient, healthier, more fun, etc.), and my belief in the POTENTIAL of technology (acculturated by sci-fi since I was a kid, which is sadly more techno-fantasy than science fiction)…
…plus my actual practical experience with computer industry technology, is exactly why I’m so concerned about this technology (and pretty much all the rest of the crap shoveled at us by the industry).
There was a time when computer stuff was an exploration into potential; when it was worth some of the inconvenience of buggy tools. It was discovery and sometimes delight. Yes, some legit research still goes on, but the time to be done with tolerating broken tech has LONG passed.
There's no end to the unfinished and under-tested garbage shoveled at us every few months for the sake of making more profit without providing much value. The logical fallacy of special pleading continues to rationalize the endless stream of bugs. “Nothing’s perfect” being another knee-jerk rationalization. I don’t want perfect. I want reliable and fit for purpose.
The mindset of this industry has always kinda been “when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail” and “solutions seeking a problem”, but it’s MUCH worse now, and there are rich geeks and wannabe rich geeks in positions of influence pushing it like never before. In the old days, corporations were run by business types, who are inherently conservative in terms of risk taking, but now we have many former tech nerds in the actual management positions and they have still not improved their social skills or wisdom. There’s a tech industry religion of “move fast and break things” because “disruption” is now some kind of aspiration, and the hot ticket to sudden wealth.
I put the majority of blame on two issues:
1. The stock market (human greed)
2. Ever-present human naïveté among the population that understandably doesn’t have enough experience and specialist knowledge to be suspicious of this industry. It’s not the fault of such people, but it would be nice to somehow increase the general population’s understanding of the issues at the root of this industry.
I can’t affect number 1. I used to have a job affecting item number 2, in the small scale, at one university (helping educate faculty with tech), but it was too little and I was long ago driven out of employment by sociopaths (also a major problem of the industry, as we see with how broken tech that may never ever work reliably is being pushed for sudden wealth and profit maximization).
I used to be very much a tech optimist. It could be that I’m just getting old but somewhere along the way I started questioning much of the stuff that was being hyped/rolled out. Examples of what I consider to be lame/stupid ideas are Bitcoin and the Metaverse. There almost seems to be a religion around this stuff in my opinion, that anything these big companies create/promote must be good for the rest of us, but I think there are many examples of how it has a negative effect. I think many of the conveniences offered by modern tech are also a dual-edged sword. For example its easier than ever to order fast food through mobile apps, this is no doubt convenient but you miss out on the human aspect of talking to someone in the restaurant/coffee shop and it also makes it easier to order on an impulse which the companies count on. Many people in tech also seem to have this love of automation and do not consider the human impact to be worth worrying about. I personally refuse to use self-checkout for this reason. I don’t want to live in a world where all the stores/fast foods/Starbucks are fully automated. If it happens I’ll stop going there.
As an introvert, I use self-checkout. I interact with the self-checkout- babysitter employee almost every time I use them, anyway, because these machines are just more crap that goes wrong on a regular basis.
But yeah, former tech optimist here who feels the same. Today’s tech push seems to be almost entirely for Wall Street and very little for actual customers. Here’s one of my favorite twitter accounts:
Internet of Shit (@internetofshit) on X
screw it, put a chip in it. say hello: internetofshit@gmail.com
mobile.twitter.com
Money corrupts everything.
As soon as they put an investing and trading app in everyone's hands people started turning a blind eye to corruption and manipulation in finance markets and they each decide to become idiots and parrots who ride every hype train and desperately talk about stupid tech ideas just to see if they can profit from it.
This was no accident. Wall Street and the fin tech industry knew they could turn thousands of people into their parrots. They knew they could manipulate a Reddit forum and spin stupid lies that 'The people are controlling the stock market and becoming rich'.
All these suckers got played and the way to keep the scam going is to create new hype cycles every few months. One day "web3" (Tim Berners Lee said it is a scam), next day "meta verse", then "AI", next it will be flying cars or whatever stupid thing they can get CNBC and NYT to hype up.
Here’s a neat article for this thread. I wish I had access to this article when I was arguing with an “AI believer” on Reddit a few days ago: it backs up everything I said that he refused to accept because he apparently wants to believe LLMs are intelligent. I gave up on that conversation two days ago because I realized it’s a waste of time arguing with believers of any kind.
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Economist Says AI Is a Doomed Bubble — Futurism
The chatbot wars — led by ChatGPT creator OpenAI, Bing/Sydney overlord Microsoft, and the very desperate-to-catch-up Google — are on, with Silicon Valley behemoths and the industry's biggest investors rushing to throw major dollars behind the easily anthropomorphized language-generating systems...