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Google Adds Push Gmail for iPhone and iPod Touch Via Google Sync
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I have set my mail back to push - it didn't cure the comas.
Any idea how often it fetches from Gmail?
Or is it a case of sending a test email and checking myself?
EDIT - 5 minutes.
I have set my mail back to push - it didn't cure the comas.
Any idea how often it fetches from Gmail?
Or is it a case of sending a test email and checking myself?
EDIT - 5 minutes.
I have this issue as well.
I figure it is either that they are limiting this on purpose to reduce load *OR* that it has to do with how they archive. You don't normally see what is archived through the browser UI but I beleive it happens on the back end. I am wondering if the archive is 30 days (or so) and the new push/sync stuff can only show non-archived items.
Regarding Push vs Fetch
I thought Push Notifications doesn't go back and forth the server to check for new emails, but why is it when I check the Cellular Network Data Usage both Sent and Received indicates that there is atleast some bits of data transferred back and forth.
Is it correct to say that Push Notification is a "light weight" version of Fetch? So turning on push notification will degrade the battery significantly same as Fetch?
I thought Push Notifications doesn't go back and forth the server to check for new emails, but why is it when I check the Cellular Network Data Usage both Sent and Received indicates that there is atleast some bits of data transferred back and forth.
Is it correct to say that Push Notification is a "light weight" version of Fetch? So turning on push notification will degrade the battery significantly same as Fetch?
Confirmation from Google- currently only can display email up to 28 days old regardless of settings. See post from DouglasG (Google Employee):
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=1d3c55830c120006&hl=en
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=1d3c55830c120006&hl=en
This is push email. It is not push notifications. You just get your email delivered to your inbox immediately, just like it works for Yahoo and .Mac email already.
Notifications
But when a new mail arrives, it will show a badge on the Mail icon, correct? That will indicate that it's been "pushed" to my phone. Because if it's just showing up when I open Mail, that's no better than manually fetching.
But when a new mail arrives, it will show a badge on the Mail icon, correct? That will indicate that it's been "pushed" to my phone. Because if it's just showing up when I open Mail, that's no better than manually fetching.
The inbox and arrival of new messages is working OK for me, but I find that opening up a different folder (like SENT, or one of my other labels) is REALLY slow.
I am a google apps user, and when I opened up a folder when I was using IMAP, the emails contained in that folder appeared almost immediately. It is taking forever in MS Exchange. Is that true for others as well? Will it get better over time, or is that it? I may have to go back to IMAP, as much as I want Push email.
I am a google apps user, and when I opened up a folder when I was using IMAP, the emails contained in that folder appeared almost immediately. It is taking forever in MS Exchange. Is that true for others as well? Will it get better over time, or is that it? I may have to go back to IMAP, as much as I want Push email.
It's working now. Just sent another email and the badge popped up on the mail icon. Thanks for your direction!
If you want the best of both worlds, just purchase a program called pushgmail, which will send you notifications and open mail via imap. This app is fantastic, and will work with your google apps acct.
I have been using the "push mail" app, and it works flawlessly. I may go back to imap and continue using this app, as the slow loading of other folders and the that gmail with exchange is only going back 28 days, no matter how you set it, is just too problematic. I really wanted true push mail, but I'll have to hold off for now.
I ended up turning off Gmail push because of battery life. I purchased a different notification app called "Notifications". Reason for that one is because it doesn't need your Gmail credentials, and it allows you to designate only certain emails to pop up a push notification. I use Google Voice and forward all SMS to my Gmail. So I only want notified when I get a new text message in my Gmail, not a notification for every email. It also works with Twitter and other services.
Using this method I get free SMS and notified immediately up on receiving a text message!
With the service disruption, I am not able to access my mail on my iPhone through the Mail app, only through Safari.
Mine went down as well on my iPhone, though my IMAP account on the iPhone account on the iPhone continued to work, as well as mail via safari.
I just think the new Google Mail/Exchange/iPhone setup isn't quite ready for prime time yet.
Back to basics...
Ok, I'm a little confused....
I originally set up my gmail (@sky.com) account using Push (under the Fetch Data option). Obviously I didn't receive e-mails instantly, although I never had to wait more than 10-20 minutes (I think!)
I thought the 'Every 15 minutes' option under the Fetch New Data screen determined how often my iPhone checked for new e-mail, but having looked more closely it appears this is only relevant if the Push is turned off. Is this right?
How do Push and Fetch differ? I though Push meant the e-mails were 'pushed' to your phone, whereas fetch meant you had to check for new messages. If this is true, then how does the original 'Push' option differ from this new Push gmail??
I guess with the new push my e-mails are received (almost) immediately, but to set this up, do I have to delete my current e-mail account, or can I just amend some of the settings? If I do delete the existing account, will I lose all my e-mails (I suppose not as I'd still have access to the same mail server)
Appreciate this is all pretty basic stuff, but that's what these forums are for.... right?
Ok, I'm a little confused....
I originally set up my gmail (@sky.com) account using Push (under the Fetch Data option). Obviously I didn't receive e-mails instantly, although I never had to wait more than 10-20 minutes (I think!)
I thought the 'Every 15 minutes' option under the Fetch New Data screen determined how often my iPhone checked for new e-mail, but having looked more closely it appears this is only relevant if the Push is turned off. Is this right?
How do Push and Fetch differ? I though Push meant the e-mails were 'pushed' to your phone, whereas fetch meant you had to check for new messages. If this is true, then how does the original 'Push' option differ from this new Push gmail??
I guess with the new push my e-mails are received (almost) immediately, but to set this up, do I have to delete my current e-mail account, or can I just amend some of the settings? If I do delete the existing account, will I lose all my e-mails (I suppose not as I'd still have access to the same mail server)
Appreciate this is all pretty basic stuff, but that's what these forums are for.... right?
Push Gmail with emoji
Push Gmail account could properly display emoji icon in a mail sent from emoji-enable iphone but when I replied to the same mail or create a new mail from the Push account all emoji icons became unreadable characters. However, the same Gmail account setup by IMAP connection are still working for emoji.
Is that true for others as well?
Push Gmail account could properly display emoji icon in a mail sent from emoji-enable iphone but when I replied to the same mail or create a new mail from the Push account all emoji icons became unreadable characters. However, the same Gmail account setup by IMAP connection are still working for emoji.
Is that true for others as well?
Fetch checks for email at intervals. The phone opens a communications path to the server, requests status, then closes the path.
So fetch is like calling your wife's hospital every 15 minutes to see if she had a baby yet. If the answer is no, you hang up and wait another 15 minutes before you call again.
Push keeps a communications path open. Whenever an email arrives, the server quickly sends a notification down the path. Since cell communication paths are time limited, the phone must send a heartbeat ping to the server every 10-45 minutes to keep the path open. It figures out how often, by starting short and going longer until it stops working, then backs off.
So push is like calling the hospital, but leaving it on speakerphone. If you have a baby, you'll know right away because your line (path) stays open and the nurse (server) can notify you instantly. But the phone call automatically drops every 10-45 minutes if you don't say anything, so you have to say something (ping) just before it drops you each time. The time period varies, so you must figure out the least period by trial and error.
(Push is not about saving battery. It can use much more than fetch, especially if you get emails often. Its primary purpose is getting the email to you right away.)
I can finally do what blackberries could always do.
Not quite. Blackberries have true push, no pings needed. RIM paid over a half billion dollars to buy the patent for it. Saves battery and is what makes them special.
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Gmail only going back 28 days + lack of drafts are, together, a deal breaker. I'm sticking with imap for now.
Gmail only going back 28 days + lack of drafts are, together, a deal breaker. I'm sticking with imap for now.
Nice explanation Kdarling. I always find your posts informative and value add. Thanks...
Since last weeks launch I discovered that I really don't need instant gmail. I really much prefer instant notice that email has arrived (using GPush for this). I do wish Apple would implement an LED indicator like my blackberry as I find this very handy.