Google Agrees to Make Major Play Store Changes to Settle Epic Games Antitrust Lawsuit

[Starfia]

Great! So next time I can choose Gemini, Alexa or ChatGPT instead, right?

I mean: there's already integrated system-level access to ChatGPT, today's news was that a future iteration of Siri will be based on Gemini, and both Gemini and Alexa are available as native apps. Seemingly no need even for "instead" when you have "as well."

 

[Starfia]

And you have to say words to it to set it up. Folks that may not have gone through that process in awhile as they’re upgrading from one phone to another, may not have done that in awhile.

Superbly astute.

 

[svish]

With this happening, wonder what impact it will have on the battle Epic is having with Apple. Waiting to hear more on this in the coming days.

 

[@Brett]

Apple should comply in the same way that Google did.

Why? Does Epic and all the games consoles reduce their fees? Apple created the store and the hardware. Did Epic?

 

[@Brett]

Just like the beautiful Mac, I can download from the Mac App Store or from the Devs website with a dmg. That's all devs want is choice. Just like the beautiful Mac.

Phones are not like a Mac. People’s lives are on their phones and so is a lot of sensitive data.

 

[zahuh]

Phones are not like a Mac. People’s lives are on their phones and so is a lot of sensitive data.

I appreciate your response. Just wondering, you are aware your health data, fitness, journal, every single iMessage all sync with iCloud and are on the cloud? A lot of sensitive data is everywhere. Has nothing to do with Apple allowing developer apps to run that still require a certificate to open and require entitlements, the same entitlements to run and access info on iPhone.

 

[cicalinarrot]

I mean: there's already integrated system-level access to ChatGPT, today's news was that a future iteration of Siri will be based on Gemini, and both Gemini and Alexa are available as native apps. Seemingly no need even for "instead" when you have "as well."

No, I want to choose the default option. No alternative has the quick access or a dedicated physical button.
You may say that's not a big difference. Fine: then why doesn't Apple let me have it?

 

[robvalentine]

It’s amazing people don’t understand these two court cases (Epic vs Apple and Epic vs Google).

If so then it becomes clear why Apple won and Google lost.

Google is like Microsoft licensing Android (Windows) to OEMs and then trying to tie certain products/services or making deals that favor some OEMs over others.

Apple doesn’t license iOS to smartphone makers and are therefore exempt from a whole slew of antitrust issues that Microsoft & Google need to watch out for.

And yet Apple is more anti consumer than Google.

 

[LowKeyed]

And yet Apple is more anti consumer than Google.

This is an odd take. A company that has a history of making products that a significant portion of the consumer base is wildly excited by and willing to pay a premium for is "anti consumer"?

That's like saying Ferrari is "anti-driver" because they don't make a pickup truck.

Apple's not even anti-competitive in any nefarious way. Sure, they'd like every consumer in the world to buy an iPhone, but they aren't trying to make that happen. They are simply responding to a consumer desire (when legislators let them) for a certain type of experience that is not being offered in a meaningful way by another company. They aren't saying people who aren't interested in that experience are bad, evil, or stupid (although those attributes are regularly assigned to iOS users, who have been "tricked" by Apple into wanting something they shouldn't).

It is "anti-consumer" to legislatively remove or eliminate an experience from the market place. If the market can't support it, that is the consumer deciding it isn't valuable. When legislators do it, it's influence peddlers and billionaires deciding they don't like the results of something.

 

[cocky jeremy]

It’s anti-competitive that the Ford dealership is closer than the Chevy dealership. I’m FORCED to go to the Ford dealership even though I want a Chevy, so they should be forced to sell me the kind of car I want.

Better yet. Ford should be forced stock stock Chevy vehicles and be forced to let only Chevy receive payment for it.

 

[CopiumWafu]

1) Please don't act like the majority of apps you use are not 3rd party devs. Have some respect.
2) I hope iOS merges to still be secure and like the Mac where devs can build natively for the platform and distribute it on their website just like the Mac. Seems like you disagree. No problem, have a good day

100%. Psuedo choice is not choice.

 

[robvalentine]

This is an odd take. A company that has a history of making products that a significant portion of the consumer base is wildly excited by and willing to pay a premium for is "anti consumer"?

That's like saying Ferrari is "anti-driver" because they don't make a pickup truck.

Apple's not even anti-competitive in any nefarious way. Sure, they'd like every consumer in the world to buy an iPhone, but they aren't trying to make that happen. They are simply responding to a consumer desire (when legislators let them) for a certain type of experience that is not being offered in a meaningful way by another company. They aren't saying people who aren't interested in that experience are bad, evil, or stupid (although those attributes are regularly assigned to iOS users, who have been "tricked" by Apple into wanting something they shouldn't).

It is "anti-consumer" to legislatively remove or eliminate an experience from the market place. If the market can't support it, that is the consumer deciding it isn't valuable. When legislators do it, it's influence peddlers and billionaires deciding they don't like the results of something.

Apple could quite easily allow third parties access to the iPhone, in a similar way to how android does, but they choose not to, and thus harm the EU consumer by either throwing their toys out of the pram and saying nope no one can use this feature, instead of making Garmin's etc compatible. No one is asking for watchOS on a one plus watch for example. your first sentence doesn't make sense.

You can use non factory ties, wheels etc on a Ferrari, I really don't get your analogy there, an android phone is a smartphone like an iPhone is. a one plus watch is a smart watch just like an Apple Watch, so irrelevant comparison there.

Do some research on Apple's lock-in (blue bubbles etc in the USA) and you will see how anti competitive/consumer they are. With repair parts, they are getting better to be fair. I would just like to be able to use chromecast natively on my iPhone, like I can with airplay. That wouldn't cost em anything except lost HomePod sales.

They didn't legislate to remove a feature, they just went if we can't have it exclusively, then no one can.