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Unless it ever goes multi platform it is beat by any multi platform messaging app. I almost never use imessage because I can't use it on my PC via web browser not can I message use it with Android users which screws up group messaging. Whatsapp is still my messaging app of choice.
I guess it depends where you are. Where I’m from mostly everyone has iPhones, so everyone uses iMessage. ‍♂️
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Single platform messaging apps are useless... i need an app that i can communicate with everyone no matter which phone/os they using.

Thats the reason why WhatsApp is the most popolar messaging app followed by Fbook messanger...
Mostly no one uses WhatsApp where I’m from. Some don’t even know what WhatsApp is I didn’t even know what WhatsApp was until early this year when it was introduced as a messaging platform at work. So I don’t know what you mean by “most popular”
 
iMessage still remains unbeatable
I like iMessage most of the time, but you can't tell whether your message was received, and sometimes it isn't. I've had messages dropped, sometimes important ones like "I'm at the door, please open it." Regardless, I still use it.

The Messages app on Mac is great because it's so versatile. I love receiving SMS with my regular phone number.
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Mostly no one uses WhatsApp where I’m from. Some don’t even know what WhatsApp is I didn’t even know what WhatsApp was until early this year when it was introduced as a messaging platform at work. So I don’t know what you mean by “most popular”
It's the most popular in the world, which doesn't mean much to any individual. I'm surprised that everyone you know uses iMessage, though, if you're in south-east Asia.
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To be fair quite a few of those weren't necessarily failures as much as they were attempts at something that Google in a sense experimented with and then in many instances brought in various features or improvements, in one way or another, from those attempts into existing/established products.
Unfortunately this hasn't been the case for their messaging apps. There's no reason for them to launch so many failed ones. And there's no longstanding Google messaging system that's become very popular. At this point they've lost the trust of customers in any messenger they create.
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I'm very suspicious of that.

It is mind boggling to me that in 2018, technologically sophisticated companies are getting together to design a next-gen messaging system, and it doesn't even include End to End Encryption.

E2EE is such an obvious and basic requirement for communication that I have to assume these companies have omitted it for their own purposes, which I'm sure I won't like.
It does make things a bit harder for them. But companies can usually defeat E2EE deliberately if they want to. Most services don't have clients generating the private keys, so they can keep a spare*. And those that do could always give fake public keys to clients, allowing the server to intercept messages without clients discovering unless they were to meet through other means and compare pubkeys**.

It's only truly safe from a malicious corp if the clients generate private keys, people can review the client code, and users are diligent enough to always compare pubkeys with their friends, which... they won't be.

I think corps only put in E2EE because 1. it reduces their risk of security breaches 2. it forces better diligence in their SWE efforts 3. it looks good publicly.

*I know for a fact that Apple had an extra key to my iMessages at some point because I was able to reset my password and gain access to them.
** Some app has a tool for this via QR code scans. I forget which.
 
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I like iMessage most of the time, but you can't tell whether your message was received, and sometimes it isn't. I've had messages dropped, sometimes important ones like "I'm at the door, please open it." Regardless, I still use it.

The Messages app on Mac is great because it's so versatile. I love receiving SMS with my regular phone number.
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It's the most popular in the world, which doesn't mean much to any individual. I'm surprised that everyone you know uses iMessage, though, if you're in south-east Asia.
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Unfortunately this hasn't been the case for their messaging apps. There's no reason for them to launch so many failed ones. And there's no longstanding Google messaging system that's become very popular. At this point they've lost the trust of customers in any messenger they create.
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It does make things a bit harder for them. But companies can usually defeat E2EE deliberately if they want to. Most services don't have clients generating the private keys, so they can keep a spare*. And those that do could always give fake public keys to clients, allowing the server to intercept messages without clients discovering unless they were to meet through other means and compare pubkeys**.

It's only truly safe from a malicious corp if the clients generate private keys, people can review the client code, and users are diligent enough to always compare pubkeys with their friends, which... they won't be.

I think corps only put in E2EE because 1. it reduces their risk of security breaches 2. it forces better diligence in their SWE efforts 3. it looks good publicly.

*I know for a fact that Apple had an extra key to my iMessages at some point because I was able to reset my password and gain access to them.
** Some app has a tool for this via QR code scans. I forget which.
What do you mean? It says delivered when it’s sent, even if the receive receipt is off? If they are not connected on the internet it will automatically send as texts. And yeah. 8 out of 10 people here has an iPhone
 
Translation: Google feels they have gained enough data from their "assistant" monitoring all you do on Allo, so they decided to move on.
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Well, it's not like Voice needs anything new. The older app was criticized simply because of the old design, and then Google updated it to follow material design. Functionality wise, Voice has always been good. I don't need it to do more than what it's supposed to do.

CallKit would be nice if Google Voice had it added. It's only been around since iOS 10.
 
What do you mean? It says delivered when it’s sent, even if the receive receipt is off? If they are not connected on the internet it will automatically send as texts. And yeah. 8 out of 10 people here has an iPhone
The "received" thing doesn't seem to indicate the all devices received it, just that Apple's servers received it, or maybe that one device got it. Of course it wouldn't make sense to wait for all devices to receive it (one may be offline), but the issue is some never do. That's what I was referring to when I mentioned the important messages not being received in a few cases.

One other issue I forgot is messages appearing out of order. It was happening consistently for a month but has stopped for me. This is something widespread you can find lots of complaints about online.
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Yeah like YouTube....
Google didn't make YouTube but bought and updated it, so it's a bit different.
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lol if by "around" you mean "barely limping along and almost entirely forgotten" - then yes, I agree.
Heh. The idea is you give out your GVoice number instead of your real one and use it as a proxy, so if GVoice died, the most loyal users would really be screwed.
 
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Google didn't make YouTube but bought and updated it, so it's a bit different.
I believe google bought YouTube the same year it was founded, so google has had YouTube for 11 of the 12 years since its foundation. You got to give it to google.
 
I believe google bought YouTube the same year it was founded, so google has had YouTube for 11 of the 12 years since its foundation. You got to give it to google.
It was widely known and the most popular video sharing service by the time they bought it. It's different to build a social site ground-up than to keep updating an existing one.

I can't think of any social networks that a big corp created rather than a startup, actually. Alphabet tries by using sub-companies that act like startups, but they still haven't succeeded.
 
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I guess it depends where you are. Where I’m from mostly everyone has iPhones, so everyone uses iMessage. ‍♂️
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Mostly no one uses WhatsApp where I’m from. Some don’t even know what WhatsApp is I didn’t even know what WhatsApp was until early this year when it was introduced as a messaging platform at work. So I don’t know what you mean by “most popular”

I'm going to guess Wechat and Whatsapp are used with a lot more frequency around the world then imessage. True imessage. Not SMS
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Browser based messaging apps are terrible. Nothing beats a native desktop application (again, like Telegram).

Most people can't install them on work computers. Thus browser based is still very much relevant especially if you can't install apps on your device.
 
I guess it depends where you are. Where I’m from mostly everyone has iPhones, so everyone uses iMessage. ‍♂️
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Mostly no one uses WhatsApp where I’m from. Some don’t even know what WhatsApp is I didn’t even know what WhatsApp was until early this year when it was introduced as a messaging platform at work. So I don’t know what you mean by “most popular”

I wonder where are you from, but looks like you're one of the few lucky ones that all his family, friends and coworkers having iPhones and using only iMessage.
 
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