yes my dear friend i'm agree with u. They have the potential to do so but they need to be aware of the fact that it should be just a market competition thats all..
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Google Announces Google TV for Fall 2010 Launch
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yes my dear friend i'm agree with u. They have the potential to do so but they need to be aware of the fact that it should be just a market competition thats all..
it is just like a great innovation which just comes after sometime...now everyone can sit at home and search all the websites, videos sports updates and all other things...........,
My favorite part of the "demonstration" was the part they assumed every one is a total moron. Yes google, thank you so much for saving me from myself. I'm so stupid I can't figure out how to do a search on my Directv menu, and those confusing times above all the channels on the side makes it so hard for me to figure out what to watch. WOW google, what would I do without you?
Anyone else think this would be a good time for Apple and (eeeeek do I dare say it?) M$ to team up and do something simular with the Apple TV? They could probably get it implemented and launched faster than Google could.
It will probably never happen because
and M$ would probably get in a pissing match over who's OS goes on the device or browser. But the idea seams ingenious.
Don't forget, if we're just hearing about this now that means and Microsquish knew about this months ago. It could happen. We'll see.
It will probably never happen because
and M$ would probably get in a pissing match over who's OS goes on the device or browser. But the idea seams ingenious. Don't forget, if we're just hearing about this now that means
and Microsquish knew about this months ago. It could happen. We'll see.Too much overlap in the product portfolio - Xbox Live is becoming an apps/games/movie content delivery system, a direct competitor to AppleTV. It has content and is slowly growing.
Apple is attempting to move people away from their TV sets onto iPads.. that's not going to work.
My new Samsung TV has an ethernet port in the back. It streams, it plays content from USB drives and Samsung have an application/streaming website.. but no content.
One option is for Samsung to licence a "Mac-in-the-back" HDMI OEM device that plugs into the TV internally that interfaces iTunes/Content for Apple branded TV series - perhaps Apple will bring out 3D TVs next to go along with their 3D interface that we've seen patent fillings on..
Please note that I said "Seriously - "cloud media storage" today fails miserably for most people".
You may be lucky enough to have fast broadband, but most people don't. I'm in the middle of Silicon Valley, and I have DSL that peaks at 1.7 Mbps - trying to stream anything over about 1Mbps has lots of buffer pauses. That's VHS quality.
Have you priced "cloud storage"?
Today at Fry's I can buy a 1TB eSATA RAID (two 1TB drives in RAID-1 mirroring) for $160. It has a 3 year warranty.
Amazon S3 cloud storage is $150/month for 1 TB. That's $5400 over the 3 years.
Amazon charges $0.15 per GB read from the cloud. A 5 GB movie would cost $0.75 to watch. Watch one movie a day for the three years, and you have racked up $821 in bandwidth charges.
So, which looks better - $160 for a TB or $6221 for a TB ?
That has been the biggest issue, user wise, keeping the PC and the television seperate -- the keyboard and mouse vs. remote control.
While what Google is doing is great, there needs to be a fundamental UI change to let the end user go between PC and TV easily without a change in UI access devices.
The smartphone is a good step allowing a user to type text in a relaxed environment. Getting a good link between a smartphone and a TV / PC to casually access the display unit larger than a mobile device is essential.
Many researcher have been talking about walking into your home and office with your smartphone engaging the large display media devices via wireless link. I am sure this has been done right at a few geek houses but not for the masses yet.
think many are missing the point here
You won't need a keyboard and mouse...just use your droid phone. WebTV was before it's time(just like the Newton).
I have an AppleTV and it really is nice BUT very limited.
No eSata/ethernet ports for hooking up to network storage(yes you can do it through your computer, but that defeats the purpose of it imo.
Very slow when you are dealing with 600+ movies.
Only supports very limited formats(no mkv, no flv, no wmv, etc)
Only 720p
iTunes is also VERY limited when it comes to HD movies. Sure you can rent an HD movie but can only buy standard widescreen version. What's up with that?
IMO Apple is not going to make the necessary changes to the appleTV to make it competitive. Just like all there products they don't support the latest tech like HDMI(computers don't) eSata, etc.
Apple continues to become a more and more closed loop technology company. If you are a fanboy and buy all mac everything you're fine. iTunes is a bloated product and and is not optimized for Windows(shocking I know). The fact that you have to have iTunes to backup/update your phone is a joke.
You won't need a keyboard and mouse...just use your droid phone. WebTV was before it's time(just like the Newton).
I have an AppleTV and it really is nice BUT very limited.
No eSata/ethernet ports for hooking up to network storage(yes you can do it through your computer, but that defeats the purpose of it imo.
Very slow when you are dealing with 600+ movies.
Only supports very limited formats(no mkv, no flv, no wmv, etc)
Only 720p
iTunes is also VERY limited when it comes to HD movies. Sure you can rent an HD movie but can only buy standard widescreen version. What's up with that?
IMO Apple is not going to make the necessary changes to the appleTV to make it competitive. Just like all there products they don't support the latest tech like HDMI(computers don't) eSata, etc.
Apple continues to become a more and more closed loop technology company. If you are a fanboy and buy all mac everything you're fine. iTunes is a bloated product and and is not optimized for Windows(shocking I know). The fact that you have to have iTunes to backup/update your phone is a joke.
Google is slowly but surely taking the real initiative out there...
Awesome
So "real initiative" is planting a guy on Apple's board of directors for a few years, gaining insider knowledge, then slithering back to the company he runs and having them copy every idea?
Yeah, awesome.
Nice Cartoon, but makes me yawn
I get frustrated with Google's little cartoons to advertise their premature
product announcements. First off, is anybody out there running their Chromium Operating System? The cartoon was interesting, albeit a lie about the browser being the OS -- unless you don't understand what an operating system is I guess.
Now they have another cartoon about "Google TV" -- yawn. I thought YouTube on my AppleTV was interesting but I can't say that I've ever play with it too much unless there is some short clip the kids might want to see. Mostly I use YouTube on my computer or iPhone -- not when I am sitting down to be entertained.
So now Google thinks these YouTube videos constitute thousands or millions of other "channels" I might want to watch on my TV. I have enough garbage as it is on my TV that I don't want to watch. The only thing that looked interesting here was a search feature, but then again, hasn't my Dish Network box had "search" for years now? So now my search results are going to return garbage from the Web too? Nice.
No thanks.
Oh and browsing from my TV has already failed -- nobody wants/uses this feature unless they are single and are the sole user of the television. Families just don't browse that way -- the TV is for everyone to watch -- can't remember the last time I wanted to sit down to watch somebody browse the Web... oh wait... never.
I get frustrated with Google's little cartoons to advertise their premature
product announcements. First off, is anybody out there running their Chromium Operating System? The cartoon was interesting, albeit a lie about the browser being the OS -- unless you don't understand what an operating system is I guess.
Now they have another cartoon about "Google TV" -- yawn. I thought YouTube on my AppleTV was interesting but I can't say that I've ever play with it too much unless there is some short clip the kids might want to see. Mostly I use YouTube on my computer or iPhone -- not when I am sitting down to be entertained.
So now Google thinks these YouTube videos constitute thousands or millions of other "channels" I might want to watch on my TV. I have enough garbage as it is on my TV that I don't want to watch. The only thing that looked interesting here was a search feature, but then again, hasn't my Dish Network box had "search" for years now? So now my search results are going to return garbage from the Web too? Nice.
No thanks.
Oh and browsing from my TV has already failed -- nobody wants/uses this feature unless they are single and are the sole user of the television. Families just don't browse that way -- the TV is for everyone to watch -- can't remember the last time I wanted to sit down to watch somebody browse the Web... oh wait... never.
rofl, it's webtv all over again
As suggested in a report yesterday, Google has announced Google TV, a new offering set to roll out in the fall of this year designed to integrate the television and Web experience.Built on Chrome and Android, Google is opening up the Google TV platform to developers to allow them to create new applications. In addition, existing Android applications not requiring phone capabilities will be able to run directly on the Google TV platform.
From a hardware perspective, Google has partnered with Intel, which is providing its Atom processor to power the Google TV offerings. Google TV will initially be offered as a standalone box from Logitech, as well as integrated directly into Sony TVs and Blu-ray players. Google has also partnered with Best Buy for distribution and with DISH Network to provide one-click integration between Google TV and the satellite provider's DVR offerings.
Google TV has been seen as a significant competitor to Apple's set-top box known as Apple TV. Apple has long regarded Apple TV as a "hobby", offering a somewhat limited feature set serving as a hub for music, video, and photo content, as well as access to the company's iTunes Store.
Article Link: Google Announces Google TV for Fall 2010 Launch
I agree. I started to like the concept, then realized that video from the web to fit my 50" display will not look as good as it does on my smaller, portable device. Web vids on my display is not what I am looking for. I have a DVR and the summer rerun season to catch up on missed show in the living room.
Surfing on my living room displays is also a miss. Who wants to keep up with a full size keyboard or small text from the couch.
I have the solution but it will cost any company out there looking to win.
My take on Apple TV vs Google TV:
Neither will succeed. Either may get a niche gathering, but won't be mass market product because people don't need more remote controls for the TV.
A family already have several devices - DVD Player, digital cable set top box, game player and maybe DVR. The road to success in the living room is not to add another box.
If anyone can merge the three together, it will have a killer product. Apple had an opportunity with Apple TV - if it runs as digital cable VOD box, DVD drive, with DVR feature. Apple could also make it easier to write video games for it. The problem is that Apple wants to get into streaming video business. That concept kills any possibility to integrate cable box functionalities, since cable companies have their own VOD.
Google TV has the same problem.
Without replacing an existing box, any additional box will only complicate people's lives. TV is the simplest home entertainment device. Giving it more features and make it more difficult to use is not the way to go.
Neither will succeed. Either may get a niche gathering, but won't be mass market product because people don't need more remote controls for the TV.
A family already have several devices - DVD Player, digital cable set top box, game player and maybe DVR. The road to success in the living room is not to add another box.
If anyone can merge the three together, it will have a killer product. Apple had an opportunity with Apple TV - if it runs as digital cable VOD box, DVD drive, with DVR feature. Apple could also make it easier to write video games for it. The problem is that Apple wants to get into streaming video business. That concept kills any possibility to integrate cable box functionalities, since cable companies have their own VOD.
Google TV has the same problem.
Without replacing an existing box, any additional box will only complicate people's lives. TV is the simplest home entertainment device. Giving it more features and make it more difficult to use is not the way to go.
You're right in the sense that this is a question that has been partially answered-- but only partially. It's not a wholly new model for content delivery, it's just the backend of broadcast TV with a new, more user-friendly time-shifting front-end.
Future TV would actually be more like YouTube-- a cloud of video content that goes from being "not yet available" to being "available" like a video podcast, but isn't scheduled for broadcast at particular times where you have to, in advance, configure your PVR to catch.
Part of the reason is that PVRs, most of them, aren't viewed as friendly evolutions of the market for content producers, since they enable commercial elimination, but don't offer any additional benefit to providers.
Think of Google TV as a PVR that can insert ads into content and act like a Nielsen box-- except now you can collect statistics from every viewer instead of just a (hopefully) statistically significant sample.
I have a console and several variations of set-top boxes, but I think we have to admit that this site's audience is likely further ahead on the curve on these kinds of DIY entertainment integrations than the majority of TV viewers.
Your inability to spell or use proper grammar indicates to me that you really don't know what you're talking about when you say that most things Google does fail. For example, how do you explain that their search engine is the defacto standard for web searches? How do you explain Youtube, GMail, Picasso, Android, etc? Dude, I love my iPhone, but I'm not sucked in to Steve Jobs reality distortion field. They have some great products, but that doesn't make me think everyone elses products are crap. Seriously, you're either 8 years old or your head is wedged so far up there that you're mumbling.
If GoogleTV does everything that they say it will, it'll blow AppleTV out of the water. Giving Apple months to prepare isn't that big of a deal since Google has most definately applied for patents or has already been awarded. Apple has a lot of work to do, since their product essentially hasn't changed in over three years.
Looking through the Google TV stuff... it's not anything new in terms of what will be offered content-wise. Anyone with a fairly recent Tivo already has access to all the content being mentioned. I guess it'll come down to whether Google implements it better than Tivo has done - I have not liked the various incarnations of comprehensive search that Tivo's come up with at all.
I suppose if this ends up being as functional as a Tivo and just as low priced but with no monthly fees... then it might be interesting. But the announcement itself didn't wow me.
I suppose if this ends up being as functional as a Tivo and just as low priced but with no monthly fees... then it might be interesting. But the announcement itself didn't wow me.
Sony is set to release a Blu-ray player and a range of televisions with the Google TV built in. And Logitech will be releasing a box that can be plugged into existing setups and has a controller that has a keyboard combined. This unique alignment of Googles rapidly growing, open source Android platform with Sonys unparalleled expertise realy attractive.
