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I was questioning that very point. If someone whose needs are limited to be satisfied by a web browser - what is the value proposition that Google is offering to take away $1000 from that consumer? Speaking for myself, I wouldn't pay more than $250 for a box with a browser. The Chromebook is hardly a "luxury" marque. Are they offering top notch customer care? Or reliability? Or future upgrades? "Cool" factor? What is their deal?

i have nothing. as i said in my previous post i dont even get that screen. how much could you save my skipping touch screen?

but as to the actual point. is that actually called "limited needs" today? isnt it rather the norm?
 
Attention

ATTENTION APPLE AND GOOGLE!

USB-C is not worth the crazy price tags on your products.

No one give a ***** about USB-C.
 
My attachment is all I have to say about the Pricing of this awful chrapbook.
 

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All the Pixel is for is when Googlers attend meetings, they have their own branded laptop to use instead of a Macbook or something else.


I've always felt this way as well. I bet they found it disheartening to walk into a Google meeting and everyone is using a Mac.....or a PC in limited quantities.
 
this shouldn't have to be a 'awesome' feature.

it should be a given. mandatory. expected.

I personally think it sucks, there should be 2 on one side. Only thing that annoyed me about my 11" air is when I have the charger and thunderbolt adapter connected to the other side.
 
Wow... A gimmick if I ever saw one. $1000 for an OS that's basically just a glorified web browser? Sorry no thanks.
 
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i have nothing. as i said in my previous post i dont even get that screen. how much could you save my skipping touch screen?

but as to the actual point. is that actually called "limited needs" today? isnt it rather the norm?

I think we may just be speaking across each other!

I have no qualms with Google providing a product for someone with "limited needs". I was just questioning the rationale for charging $1000. Like it or not, Apple can somewhat justify their "tax" with good/ better than average customer service and integration. What is Google bringing to the table here?
 
Missing the point + lifecycle

This is a machine made by- and for Googles inhouse development needs.
They just let the public buy what they don't need for them self..

The hardware is insane for just running a browser, but if your job is to develop apps and the OS this let you push a lot further.

And if you look at the specs and consider that all this machine ever will do is running a browser then this machine should feel fast and snappy for at least the next 5 years if you don't brake it :)
 
That's such a myopic answer. The solution is don't buy the machine then. It's not as if it is the only computer Apple sells now.
I'm really sick and tired of people posting "don't buy it then" replies whenever someone criticizes aspects of this product. What is the purpose? You seem to think people should not discuss in this discussion forum?
If it's not for you, then why try and shape it into a terrible machine?
What are you talking about? Nobody but you said anything about a "terrible machine". It's a machine that I would like to buy because of its extreme portability, but can't because it has some (for me) fatal flaws. I'm voicing my opinion in the hopes that perhaps the flaws will be fixed. I really see it as a missed opportunity due to some stupid decisions such as the lack of ports.
It really is a remarkable machine, even if I would never buy it either.
And why is that?
But the technology is evolving and imagine what they can do with this in the future?
Frankly, I don't see this as particularly remarkable technology or a "re-invention of the notebook", as Cook claimed. It's a very nice effort in further miniaturization, but at the cost of reduced functionality.

Let me ask you this: Would this device still be interesting if Apple had upgraded the much more versatile Macbook Air 11" with a high-DPI display with smaller bezels and a haptic touchpad, which they are certainly capable of doing?
Oh wait you won't because you only live in the present. This is a scary world we live in.
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I think we may just be speaking across each other!

I have no qualms with Google providing a product for someone with "limited needs". I was just questioning the rationale for charging $1000. Like it or not, Apple can somewhat justify their "tax" with good/ better than average customer service and integration. What is Google bringing to the table here?

i dont believe we are. i answered that with "i got nothing"

in no way can i rationale the price for this machine. sure some of the hardware specs are great but the software brings it down.
 
it seems to me that google missed it's boat and is pretty much copying apple (they release something - we release something similar)

so instead of getting new ugly laptop while everyone or at least most of people in the market will buy apple laptops anyway - why don't they focus on something else that will be as desired as MacBooks are - that people will use on their computers

seems like a waste of time and money on their side..

While I agree with your comment, I'm sure there is a wide enough profit margin that they are making money on the deal. Even on the tens of dozens that they'll sell lol
 
I have a Chromebook as well and yes, it does web browsing like a champ but there is a long way to go for the OS to be more useful. The built-in video player is garbage, for one thing. If can't even play subtitles as of now. And unlike OSX, VLC isn't available as an alternative. The App Store is lacking as well.

On a chromebook with intel cpu at least, you can install Linux in a chroot, so VLC might be an option.

In the case of the Chromebook Pixel, it's a developers machine. The intended userbase for these machines have fast cloud and NAS options - not to mention USB connected flash. People complaining about the price for 32GB are like people that see a limited edition Porsche RS and complain that it's too expensive for 3.6 Litres and it doesn't even have air-conditioning.
 
for all intents and purposes, chrome os is a fully functional PC whereby you dont need to jump through hoops or workarounds to complete mundane tasks.

Like moving files around on a usb drive

Or having actual access to your files.

Today I can't use Google Spreadsheet. Numbers still works. That's all I know.

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It is not meant to be mainstream. Google has stated as much.

It is meant to be a developer's platform. It is meant to showcase what the OS can accomplish on high end hardware. It is not trying to compete with the Macbook, and Google doesn't expect to sell a ton.

Again, they have said as much, publicly.

It doesn't matter what Apple, Google, or even Microsoft say their products are for, there are these freaks out there that are lost in the world of what's BEST. While these companies seem to be trying to plug holes with what people may desire or want to fill. And hope to hit their niche spot and sell enough. BEST is relative, some people won't ever get that. Computers are OVER as far as I am concerned, with the new computers and even old, as in the last 3 years, you can get or build just about anything you want, even a laptop.

The hardest part right now is getting that BEST OS, and that means depending on the Hackintosh community, or even the Linux installers to make bootable images for a device such as this. But best? This thing is like the Gold Watch Edition, for a Google Developer, and in all sincerity, we are getting to a point where this crap is PLUSH over the top.

I mean think about this, how many people out there who are in the "Thick of it" when it comes to computers, don't have all the systems they need? People keep upgrading and passing their old stuff down the Gazelle pipe line or eBay.

It's a god damn shame. So many perfectly usable computers, just die to usability and some of them because of their old HD. The future is going to be WAAaayy different when more and more people keep using SSD with a good 8GB of ram.

When their systems don't die for 5 years (cause of care and SSD) and then their like? should I buy a new one? You ask yourself why? It's just for more plush.

Idk I am going on a bit here but it's getting old. People make a product and then people bash then people defend over and over, when it freakin doesn't matter, unless something truly is horrible.

But with this, I just see Google trying to build their Android ecosystem with no distractions and that's important. If you forced yourself to use this and ONLY the google tools that would be pretty cool and dedicated. I mean look at google glass, I applaud them for dropping R&D cash on new projects and just getting their feet wet.

I just wonder what's going to happen to USB Flash Drives? I mean they are pretty useful, you're going to have to plug in an adapter to plug in a USB Flash Drive? HA Lame!

Laters...
 
for all intents and purposes, chrome os is a fully functional PC whereby you dont need to jump through hoops or workarounds to complete mundane tasks.

Like moving files around on a usb drive

You have to plug in an adapter just like the MacBook.....
 
I'm really sick and tired of people posting "don't buy it then" replies whenever someone criticizes aspects of this product. What is the purpose? You seem to think people should not discuss in this discussion forum?
What are you talking about? Nobody but you said anything about a "terrible machine". It's a machine that I would like to buy because of its extreme portability, but can't because it has some (for me) fatal flaws. I'm voicing my opinion in the hopes that perhaps the flaws will be fixed. I really see it as a missed opportunity due to some stupid decisions such as the lack of ports.
And why is that?
Frankly, I don't see this as particularly remarkable technology or a "re-invention of the notebook", as Cook claimed. It's a very nice effort in further miniaturization, but at the cost of reduced fun....

You claim to think conversation is good but then dismiss the primary opposing argument out of hand. Apple does have other models to buy. This was made to provide another option. Nothing was taken away. In fact, most of the other models were upgraded too.

You or someone like you would have have been here complaining about the lack of a headphone port had they opted for a second USB-C port instead. You argue about some obsession with thinness. Well it is clear some people want smaller laptops and are willing to sacrifice some features for it. Should those people not get what they want just so you can have what you want? Will Apple ever add another port to this model? Maybe. I bet they don't do it by making the device bigger, removing the headphone jack, or reducing the battery life.

Apple's biggest misstep in recent years was the iPad 3. Making the device bigger was a deal breaker for nearly everyone. It is hard to imagine any iPad 2 user considering anything before the air anything but a downgrade. People do want thinner and lighter. People that use a USB port once week will likely prefer thinner and lighter to another port. People who are good with a machine withe a Core-M probably don't expect to plug in a lot of accessories. The most common use for ports will be desktop replacements and a single USb-C port is perfect for that.

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I just wonder what's going to happen to USB Flash Drives? I mean they are pretty useful, you're going to have to plug in an adapter to plug in a USB Flash Drive? HA Lame!

Laters...

There will be USb-C flash drives soon enough. The world moves forward.
 
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Or having actual access to your files.

Today I can't use Google Spreadsheet. Numbers still works. That's all I know.

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did you try it 30 seconds later?

im not sure if it has any limitations but im assuming you dont have offline access setup for google spreadsheets?

your post isnt really fair.
 
Well it is clear some people want smaller laptops and are willing to sacrifice some features for it. Should those people not get what they want just so you can have what you want? Will Apple ever add another port to this model? Maybe. I bet they don't do it by making the device bigger, removing the headphone jack, or reducing the battery life.
Why would they need to do any of this? Other vendors prove that it is possbible to make notebooks just as thin as the Macbook and still have multiple ports. I' pretty sure this was a deliberate design decision on Apple's part, not a technical necessity.
 
I always liked the look of chrome books. But the OS I'm not very fond of.
 
what are you going to do on the new macbook that you cant on the pixel?

Edit files offline springs to mind (unless that's changed?). The chromebook can do almost everything a PC can do but the reliance on being online could be a dealbreaker for some.
 
Edit files offline springs to mind (unless that's changed?). The chromebook can do almost everything a PC can do but the reliance on being online could be a dealbreaker for some.

its improved somewhat and more and more android apps are becoming available. i dont own one but i follow blogs and news articles.

mounting sources like dropbox and ftp was recently added

however all this calls for storage requirements which i must say im disappointed with.
 
what are you going to do on the new macbook that you cant on the pixel?

To be fair, ChromeOS is a far more limiting platform than OSx, or Windows, or even any *nix flavour that offers are full desktop experience.

The ability to install local programs, and run in Offline mode, or with local resources is key for many people.

I would LOVE the chromebook pixel. when Bundled with only 32gb and ChromeOS it seems like a ridiculous overpriced machine. But in reality, at $999, the hardware is on par, if not better than what is offered from Apple in the $999 category. This device goes up against the $999 MacBook Air. And in everything but the storage and OS, it is on par or better.

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You have to plug in an adapter just like the MacBook.....

the ChromeBook pixel still contains 2 x USB-A ports, in Addition to the 2 x USB-C, (And SD card) allowing for the ability to use your existing USB devices without needing an adapter
 
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