Google announces open source patent pledge, won't sue 'unless first attacked'

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  1. NC12309 macrumors member

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  2. TheMTtakeover macrumors 6502

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    I don't ever see that happening (Apple). This is really cool of Google to do though.
     
  3. hyteckit Guest

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    A good gesture.

    I just don't know how much weight/trust I put into their plead.

    This is the same company that collected private content/data from WiFi networks with their street view cars.

    I guess the plead is better than nothing.
     
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    Nor should they. The goal of business is to build a product or service that the public wants and then maximize profit as much as possible. If you feel that someone is infringing on your IP, and in turn your future profits, you are obligated to defend yourself by whatever means available.

    Take Google and this announcement for example. Opening up the open source related patents is a nice move from a PR stand point, but doing so costs then very little. They make a relatively tiny profit from Android and Chrome right now so giving away the milk for free here hardly registers as a blip on the radar. Go infringe on one of their search or ad works patents and see how fast they sue you to the moon.
     
  6. digital.l0gic, Mar 28, 2013
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    Heard of Hadoop?

    Amazon's, Facebook's, and pretty much every other Major(and not so major) company's Big Data architecture is Hadoop or some other Map reduce variation.

    It is not an exaggeration to say that maybe the vast majority of the current Big Data software is a direct result of Google's mapreduce. I'm pretty sure iCloud uses a map-reduce variation as well.

    If Google wanted to screw over other companies..all they have to do is to take them to task over Hadoop which is btw directly based on Mapreduce. Being the Good guy, it encourages Hadoop instead of suing. imo Apple would have simply sued the **** out of other companies if it invented mapreduce instead of Google.

    Here is a very good Wired article about Mapreduce and how big a part it plays. Sadly A lot of Inventions by Google are related to the back-end of the internet/data and most consumers are blisfully unaware of the positive benefits they experience due to Google's efforts.

    Oh btw...Google stopped using map-reduce in the early 2000's and apparently it's Big Data software is about 2 generations ahead of the current technology used by any other major company.


    Mapreduce and its open source variation Hadoop(based pretty much entirely on Google map-reduce white papers) drive the internet today. To say that these patents are trivial is pretty shocking..to say the least. :)
     
  7. inselstudent macrumors 6502a

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    I really don't wanna talk ill of Google unfoundedly, but I'd ask the question "who profits from that?" A company with only few noteworthy patents surely could.

    Apple, on the other hand, has got a lot of them. I agree that patent law has been getting crazy, but all in all I actually do support the general idea of protecting someone's ideas. Now, if Apple took the same step, what would happen? Maybe awfully many start-ups would appear and would actually manage to profit, just by impudently copying Apple.

    Of course, the chances of Apple following suit are minimal, but I think the real purpose of Google's behavior could actually be that consumers might say now, "Oh what an altruistic step to take, Google must be an honorable company indeed. Apple would never do that, but they are a cheap, money-hungry company, so it was obvious anyway."
     
  8. hyteckit Guest

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    Google promised not to sue developers, distributors, and users of open source software utilizing Mountain View's patents.

    I thought that was pretty much the idea of open source.

    Has Apple sued anyone for using its open source WebKit? Google's Chrome browser uses WebKit.
     
  9. ijohn.8.80 macrumors 65816

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    And the penny drops! :eek:

    Thanks heaps digital.l0gic I really appreciate the lengths you went to helping me (and I'm sure many others also) to understand the actions of what went down here.
     
  10. sentinelsx macrumors 68010

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    Meh, if someone infringes on google's search algorithms I am sure they will be take to court very swiftly.

    Lets not get blinded by corporate PR. All these corporations, be it anyone, would never want their core IP to be revealed to anyone. That means business suicide.
     
  11. cynics macrumors G3

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    Google has never liked the "sue" game.

    This is from March 2012

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...apple-google-says-patent-wars-hurt-consumers/

    I'd like to mention that article is from March 2012 and the deal with Moto wasn't done till May 2012. So it may seem hypocritical but I'm sure there was more too it.

    One of the main reasons if not THE main reason Google acquired Moto mobility was for their patent portfolio to protect Android and Manufacturers that's use it.

    I've read articles WAY in the past about google trying to stay out of the court seen too but this new article is completely plugging up search engines lol.

    Google has a ton of patents just very few to do with Android. So its not like they didn't know anything about it. More like they didn't care, well didn't care until others threatened them and they didn't have ammo to fight back with.

    Regardless all this law suit stuff is very bad publicity. There was a time when everyone was thinking, "who is Apple suing this week?". Which maybe rightfully so but something's were just ridiculous.
     

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