Google Assistant's 'Continued Conversations' Rolling Out to Reduce Need for 'OK Google' Commands

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    Siri rival Google Assistant received a major update today across the Google Home speaker ecosystem with a feature Google revealed at I/O in May, called "Continued Conversation." Now, when you speak to Google Assistant and wake it up with a "Hey Google" or "OK Google" phrase, you don't need to repeat the phrase again for a follow-up request.

    For example, you can ask "Hey Google, what's the weather today?", and then follow up with "And what about tomorrow?" or "Can you remind me to bring an umbrella tomorrow morning?" When your thread of requests is finished, Google explains that you can say "thank you" or "stop" to end the conversation, but Google Assistant will also do this automatically if it detects you're no longer talking to it.

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    Continued Conversations will need to be turned on in the Google Assistant app's Settings > Preferences > Continued Conversation. When starting up a new conversation you'll still need to say "OK Google" or activate a physical trigger every time, but the company hopes that reducing the instances you need to speak a wake-up phrase will result in more fluid and natural interactions with Google Assistant.

    In comparison, Apple's Siri still requires you to say "Hey Siri" every time a command is given, or by activating the AI assistant manually on iPhone or HomePod. Later this year, Apple will debut improvements to Siri in iOS 12 in the form of a new "Siri Shortcuts" feature, allowing iPhone owners to build customizable workflows and connect a variety of third-party apps and services under one voice command.

    Siri remains one of the downsides for Apple's products for some users, with a recent survey finding that iPhone X early adopters were very satisfied with all features of the smartphone except Siri. Around the time of that survey, The Information reported that Siri has become a "major problem" within Apple and that the assistant remains "limited compared to the competition," including Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant.

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  2. mbezzo macrumors member

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    I want this so bad for Siri. This is a common "issue" (I realize this is absolutely a "first world" problem...) for me: Listening to HomePod in the bathroom while getting ready "Hey Siri, transfer this to the kitchen".... wait.... "Hey Siri, turn the kitchen lights on". OR "Hey Siri, Transfer this to the kitchen and turn the kitchen lights on." Seems SOO simple and obvious... but nope!

    Hopefully soon...
     
  3. Relentless Power macrumors Core

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    I like this feature. You can multitask more versus having to stop with intervals. This will be convenient. As Someone who uses Siri, this would be something I would really like to see, as you can ask/do more for commands or questions. Google Assistant/Voice is vastly ahead of Siri. I hope iOS 13 really brings the changes for Siri, as its clearly showing where the competition is creating a distance in usefulness and improved features.
     
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    Meanwhile Apple is like „lol we have no idea so do it yourself“
     
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    Hey Apple....do something about Siri!!!! Every year Siri falls behind the competition more and more. Not acceptable.
     
  6. Relentless Power macrumors Core

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    As a strong Apple enthusiast as myself, and also someone who uses Siri for dictation quite regularly in iOS, I don’t understand why Siri has been not advanced as it could be. Yes, Siri works very well for in-house commands with the iPhone or iPad for controls or basic questions, but anything beyond that, it’s rather useless. Siri desperately needs revamping to be more dynamic when asked questions, producing more relevant search results, faster, and of Course improved deciphering in understanding words. When you compare Google voice/assistant in terms of understanding what the user is saying, it’s incredible how much Google AI is that much more accurate and faster.
     
  7. Geardo_Ranger macrumors member

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    In all honesty Siri is at one of those points in life where most companies would drop it and delete it from their products. It is extremely behind everyone else. The new shortcuts in IOS 12 is just a bandaid at this time requiring users to make Siri a little more useful. Only time will tell.
     
  8. HiVolt macrumors 6502

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    But there's new animoji's in iOS12, yet Siri is still dumber than a doorknob!

    WTG Timmy!
     
  9. truthertech macrumors 65816

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    "The Information reported that Siri has become a "major problem" within Apple and that the assistant remains "limited compared to the competition," including Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant."

    More internet myth spreading. Siri, and all of them have a ways to go. And with the most powerful processor of any, I am looking forward to updates that Apple will roll out for my HomePod, but any "lead" is so blown out of proportion regarding home speakers. Every survey shows Siri can already do quite well at the things 99% of users of smart speakers want. Number one is to listen to music, then set a timer, check weather, sports, traffic, etc. Please tell us the key things that the HomePod can't do that any significant number of smart speaker users want to use their smart speaker for?
     
  10. e-coli macrumors 68000

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    Siri is toast. This is an institutional liability for Apple, and could threaten them as a viable platform in the future. It amazes me they don’t see it.
     
  11. arkitect, Jun 21, 2018
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    The application for voice commands is far wider than just the HomePod.

    How do you not see that? o_O

    By all means cheerlead for Apple, but at least keep some rational perspective on the issue.

    Apple are far behind their competition and Google (and Amazon) are moving ahead at a heck of a pace.
    Apple have been caught napping.

    On topic:
    This is excellent news for us, the users. It makes the whole interaction far more natural. Things flowing from one command or query to the next.
     
  12. Relentless Power macrumors Core

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    Considering the HomePod completely relies on Siri, that’s certainly not an option for Apple to just completely ‘Drop it’. Siri has the potential, but; Apple has to bring that potential and be on par more with what Google and Alexa are currently.
     
  13. ThatGuyInLa, Jun 21, 2018
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    I have two reasons why I continue to use Apple products. iCloud (for photos mostly) and Messages. The iCloud part is easily replaceable with Google’s offerings. Messages not so much. If Google ever gets a compelling alternative, no reason to allow myself to be let down and tortured by lack of features in Apple’s software.

    Safari? It can’t play 4K YouTube. ATV? Same thing. That is such a tiny thing yet so huge. A little big thing. And they’re more little big things like this all throughout iOS, macOS, and tvOS. I’m really, nearly, done with all of it. Google gets a widely adopted Messages alternative and poof, I’m gone from this slowly rotting Apple.
     
  14. Bswails macrumors regular

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    Custom wake words are on deck next for amazon and Google...Damnit Apple MAKE SIRI BETTER!
     
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    Who doesn’t like TONGUE detection?
     
  16. Bswails macrumors regular

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    I don’t think the Siri Apple brought intended for Siri to do what Alexa and GA can do.. so I don’t see any more potential with Siri..I agree to “drop” Siri but of course not just delete it. But hopefully with a major iOS update and al of the hiring Apple has done for AI a much better version of Siri will be added and yes the Siri we know now will be gone
     
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    This is true. As assistants get integrated into everything (even builders are adding Alexa into new homes under construction) if Siri falls farther behind it will discourage new users to the platform and risks loosing me and my Apple ecosystem in the future.

    Apple seems to be spending more time courting Hollywood than building great tech.

    *edit - It's been quite a while since Apple introduced something that literally made me say WOW. And that is sad.
     
  18. Bswails macrumors regular

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    Multi user voice support, drop-in, intercom, make calls..
     
  19. wwchris macrumors regular

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    It can't recognize different wake words. (meaning my iPad, Homepod and iPhone are all fighting to figure out who should respond).
    It can't recognize multiple users on Homepod which means I can't use text, calling or calendar features in my home without give all my family and guests access to hearing my text messages.
    It can't answers simple questions like, "How can I tell if an egg is bad?" or any number of other voice assistant "normal day to day questions" queries I do on my Google Home.
    It is the worst of the three at accurately recognizing my words and translating them correctly to text.
    It is much slower than the other Amazon or Google.
    It can't order products like Alexa.
    When I ask it for information about issues related to apple products, it automatically directs me to the Apple site instead of giving me the relevant information I want.
    It can't set multiple timers. (Which I use when cooking all the time).
    Oh , yeah, what the guy above said too, drop in/intercom I use all the time.

    Lots of other things too, but those are some of the more "normal daily issues".
     
  20. Mascots macrumors 65816

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    Ugh the usability improvements Google has been giving Assistant are the little things I'd expect from Apple and Siri.

    Even just being able to say "Siri" instead of "Hey Siri" would be really nice.
     
  21. Bswails macrumors regular

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    I’ve been upset about this also! Lol google and amazon will allow custom hot words long b4 Apple will just drop the “Hey” lol
     
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    I know this is up for debate, but it seems possible that a lot of the reason siri is 'dumber' is due to privacy. End to end encryption, keeping data on device, differential privacy, identifier to protect anonymity...

    I'm not saying it's required because I have no idea, but would you give up Apple's seeming intent on privacy being high priority for a 'smarter' siri?
     
  23. dirt_farmer, Jun 21, 2018
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    "Hey Siri, are you a metaphor for Apple's new strategy, which is to let themselves be run by an Accountant whose priority is to boost their stock price -- even at the expense of creating good technology?"

    "I've found some results on the web"
     
  24. Geardo_Ranger macrumors member

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    Exactly my point. I hate to say it but it seems like Apple keeps backing themselves into corners they can’t fix unless they do a complete overhaul. And it’s not just one corner it’s many now with hardware and software.
     
  25. groadyho macrumors regular

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    I've grown to love my Google assistant. I rely on it a alot these days. Alexa too with our Fire tv cube. That said, Apple will never make Siri nearly as smart, y'all got your privacy concerns and tin foil hats to wear instead. Lmao.JK peeps.
     

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