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Some strange takes here. Both Google and Microsoft are light years ahead of Apple in this space and so many others. Even Meta is obviously ahead. Apple makes stuff for kids that can't keep track of their car keys, Google and Microsoft are doing insane enterprise development that is going to be at the forefront of this whole silly metaverse push.
What do you expect? This is Macrumors where Apple is a religion here and no company can be superior
 
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Ready Player Three (Meta, Apple, Google)

Soon everyone is going to have a VR/AR headset and will be able to take photos and videos by blinking with your eyes. Then we need new laws that there shall be a red blinking led when recording stuff, so it can't be done secretly...
Dystopian future!

Before I'm worrying about rampant invasions of (video recording) privacy (though certainly seemingly plausible), I have to be able to imagine lots of potential privacy invaders running around in public in these goggles. I have a pretty big imagination but I'm finding it hard to picture. Sure, the diehard fans would buy and wear ANYTHING Apple would offer, but the masses... "forecast cloudy, try again later."

Once tech is head attachments over eyes, I keep visualizing Star Trek Borg...

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...which then makes me wonder how much longer until we can get the Apple/Google/Meta fanciest can opener device to replace our hand? ;)

And then there's the social aspect: will goggles attract S.O.s or repel them? Or maybe goggles AR/VR delivers a virtual S.O.?

I can see the video game aspect because that already exists (but that's pretty much something done in a single location). I can imagine virtual screens to basically have screens on which to work available anywhere one happens to be (though I question whether this can really work and not lead to eye strain/headaches). If a desktop screen could be virtualized, then a laptop could lose the top and become a mobile desktop with any size screen created virtually by these goggles. But still, that seems to be a stationary use instead of an out and about use (leave these in the office instead of having them with you like you might have your phone with you).

Seeing potential furniture purchases in my own room seems interesting (but very niche- consumers are not buying a room of furniture often). A courtside simulation without having to lay out the (full) cost of courtside seats and actually going to wherever that court is seems pretty appealing. Watch a movie on a virtual gigantic screen during the flight. Etc. But again, these are more stationary uses. Conceptually, this can be Star Trek Holodeck implemented in an on-you instead of around-you way.

As this gets into being something worn much of the time- just generally out in public... like we might wear a shirt- I start having trouble. Heads up display of map? OK I can visualize that... but again, slipping them on while using that and then getting out of them as soon as I get to the destination.

Even the "glued to the phone" crowd tuck the "essential" phone into their pocket a good amount of the time. Is this tuck-able? Is it flipped up onto our heads like sunglasses when not in use? Are we carrying this around in some kind of bag like we might carry headphones or an iPad? Is this fun to carry around? Do we get some social lift by being seen in these?

Can the masses be moved to embrace head-gear? And if so, what about that privacy intrusion if these are everywhere. Resistance is futile?
 
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Google and Facebook are 10 years behind Apple in wearables. They will not be able to field a competitive AR headset.

Why? They chased the mirage of voice assistant speakers and VR while Apple turned Apple Watch and AirPods into a powerhouse. What does that have to do with AR glasses? Wearables are a platform play. AirPods, Watch, iPhone, AR glasses will all work together seamlessly, with glasses possibly being powered by the Watch and/or Phone. Just like AirPods make Apple Watch much more powerful by enabling music/calling/Siri from the wrist. And Apple has been building the AR software platform for years in anticipation of headsets. And they have a brand and fashion sense to make things people actually want to wear on their bodies - AirPods and Apple Watch both seen as desirable and appealing. They have this locked down.
Totally agree. I’ll add that Arcade, TV+, and Fitness+ are all posed to have early applications for the Glasses. While none may be the true “killer” app for the device - they lay an important groundwork that both trailblazes and gives a sense of long-term commitment to 3rd party devs, giving them the confidence to dive all in on making that app that truly unlocks the true potential of the hardware.

Risking tons of time and money to develop on a Google or FB platform? Apple surely has a huge advantage here.
 
Well this seems to be the new hotness in Silicon Valley- it makes sense that Google is at least looking into it. But Apple will have a huge advantage over everybody else because they actually know how to make hardware.
 
Apple has been working the hell out of their AR platform, both software and hardware. They’re the only company that has the wherewithal to take an idea as big and abstract as this and figure out how to make it into an appealing, exciting and useful lifestyle product rather than some niche tech toy/tool.

So when it finally appears, Google will definitely have their photocopiers ready to go. But something tells me it’s going to take them more than another year for them to reproduce whatever Apple has done.
Right, when it finally appears. Until then, they have nothing hardware- wise.
 
I just don't understand why the entire tech industry is suddenly all in on the "meta-verse". It feels like the entire industry pivoted in lock-step overnight within the past few months. I know companies have been playing around with AR/VR headsets for years now but this feels different.
I would think it is due to the pandemic and far more people now being used to working remotely, so they finally see some potential buy-in for the “future” they envisioned. Maybe it will catch on, but considering that I find VR headsets fairly intrusive, but had no problem pulling on 3d glasses to watch 3d on my TV while most people seemed to loathe the idea, I’m trying to imagine exactly what design a AR/VR headset would have to have to appeal to the masses.
 
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I can't be the only one who couldn't really care less about AR, VR, Metaverse, 3D Movies etc etc. Companies think a large % of consumers actually want this stuff? Kinda sad how much money they are all spending on this too.
 
i like the idea of AR/VR but Google Facebook and Apple will have more control over our lives. it's bad enough carrying a smartphone with social media apps on it in our pocket. now they want their device/platform strapped to your face. the ads will be fun too...enjoy the sky while you still can.
 
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“We’ll fix it in the cloud”.
So the glass is so cheap (I guess) because everything is powered by the cloud. Got it. Can’t imagine a world where you lose vision because your internet bill isn’t being paid in time.
 
i like the idea of AR/VR but Google Facebook and Apple will have more control over our lives. it's bad enough carrying a smartphone with social media apps on it in our pocket. now they want their device/platform strapped to your face. the ads will be fun too...enjoy the sky while you still can.
Yeah, but heavy pollution either caused by those companies or led by those companies means blue skies are going to be a luxury. Everyone will live within their own dreams and wishes forever, until death.
Yeah I am not a fan of this AR/VR bs.
 
I wish everybody would stop calling them Meta. It's effing Facebook, and Xfinity is Comcast etc. Never forget who they are.
 
Cue the fanboys moaning on about Google copying when they did it first with the glasses!!!
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Actually, they are copying. Now that Apple jumps into the game, the market must be hot and ready so here comes Google and Samsung...

Apple could make a toilet and Google and Samsung would follow up with their version.
 
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Actually, they are copying. Now that Apple jumps into the game, the market must be hot and ready so here comes Google and Samsung...

Apple could make a toilet and Google and Samsung would follow up with their version.
But Google has actually developed and released VR headsets in the past. Supposedly they even had a Quest-like headset ready to go before Oculus but got sidetracked by AR and never shipped it. Apple is the only company in this discussion who hasn’t shipped a device in this category but somehow you think they’re the one that’s being copied?
 
But Google has actually developed and released VR headsets in the past. Supposedly they even had a Quest-like headset ready to go before Oculus but got sidetracked by AR and never shipped it. Apple is the only company in this discussion who hasn’t shipped a device in this category but somehow you think they’re the one that’s being copied?
Google copies Apple moves. Apple drives their product strategy.
 
But Google has actually developed and released VR headsets in the past. Supposedly they even had a Quest-like headset ready to go before Oculus but got sidetracked by AR and never shipped it. Apple is the only company in this discussion who hasn’t shipped a device in this category but somehow you think they’re the one that’s being copied?

I remember when Apple was the only (not, really) company that didn't have a "smartphone," in an industry dominated by Motorola, Ericsson, and Nokia (MEN in the industry). With lesser companies like Siemens, Samsung, Sony, etc. All having mechanical keyboards, and rather staid features.
 
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I didn’t realize they had already mastered time travel then. Copying Apple’s 2022 moves as early as 2013 is a pretty impressive feat in itself.

Google Glass is a separate product that died. Apple jumping into the market means Google is rebooting to snatch up the leftover market share....
 
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Google Glass is a separate product that died. Apple jumping into the market means Google is rebooting to snatch up the leftover market share....
I’m not talking about Google Glass. Google Cardboard was released in 2014 (so it’s safe to say they were likely thinking VR it at least a year earlier). This evolved into Daydream, which in turn evolved into their unreleased Quest competitor.

At this point Apple’s headset is still just a rumour and may turn into nothing. They’re the only one of the big consumer tech companies who has nothing in the way of a headset for anyone to copy. But apparently the whole industry just revolves around them?
 
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I’m not talking about Google Glass. Google Cardboard was released in 2014 (so it’s safe to say they were likely thinking VR it at least a year earlier). This evolved into Daydream, which in turn evolved into their unreleased Quest competitor.

At this point Apple’s headset is still just a rumour and may turn into nothing. They’re the only one of the big consumer tech companies who has nothing in the way of a headset for anyone to copy. But apparently the whole industry just revolves around them?

Every product you mentioned from Google is dead or was dead on arrival. Fun Fact, the first Android/Google Phone was going to copy Palm until they saw what Apple was doing and they scrape that and guess what? Copied! They will do it again when Apple drops their product. Clutch your Google pom poms tight!
 
Every product you mentioned from Google is dead or was dead on arrival.
Not at all related to my point but okay.

Fun Fact, the first Android/Google Phone was going to copy Palm until they saw what Apple was doing and they scrape that and guess what? Copied!
I'm pretty sure the first Android device was based on a Blackberry, not a Palm device, although both Apple and Google have certainly raided Palm OS for features and ideas over the years.

They will do it again when Apple drops their product. Clutch your Google pom poms tight!
No Google pom poms here, just facts and objectivity. You should try them sometime, they're great. I'm sure you could find a way to twist literally anything into somehow being a copy of an Apple product, though, so it may be a little too late for you.
 
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