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It looks like DuckDuckGo for macos downloaded from the DuckDuckGo website still supports macOS Big Sur which means DuckDuckGo is better and yes it is !!
 
Most Mac’s that run Big Sur can run Monterey. I’m really not sure who would opt to keep Big Sur.
People who still have Big Sur on their M1 Macbooks can run any application from iPhone or iPad on their Mac. Unfortunately mine was shipped with Monterey preinstalled so I can’t, it gives me a warning “developer didn’t intend this app to launch on mac”. People with Big Sur don’t have such warning
 
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I'm surprised people use Chrome at all. You know, given the ****ty company that makes it and the bloated piece of garbage that browser is. To each his own, I guess.
I was surprised they made some improvements that it finally works without lags on macOS, not gonna use it tho😃 Don’t need that spyware on my mac. Firefox all the way, works like a clock
 
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Good to know about it. Looks like the only option for those computers which cannot be updated will be to switch to another browser.
 
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The problem with Chrome (problem, if you want to see it in that way) is that it works.

You install the software, log into your gmail account and boom, everything is setup as you had the browser before. That's what people wants.

Also, the performance is just better in some cases. For example, I use a Macbook Pro 2012 with Monterrey and Safari is just an absolutely mess, Chrome? Works perfect, even watching videos, browsing the web, etc. It just works and thats all

It has to work otherwise Google would lose the main product they sell which happens to be you (their users).
 
With Google's track record on ending support for apps, I'm just glad that they haven't completely canceled Chrome support for MacOS.
Google is a software and services company, they want their software on as many devices as possible for people to make it easier access their services. That's why they even make Chrome for Linux.
 
People who still have Big Sur on their M1 Macbooks can run any application from iPhone or iPad on their Mac. Unfortunately mine was shipped with Monterey preinstalled so I can’t, it gives me a warning “developer didn’t intend this app to launch on mac”. People with Big Sur don’t have such warning
I thought app developers still needed to allow their apps to run on MacOS before they would.
 
Google is a software and services company, they want their software on as many devices as possible for people to make it easier access their services. That's why they even make Chrome for Linux.

Google is an advertising company. They want to be able to mine user data from as many sources as possible.

They’re not doing this to make it easy for their users. All they care about is data mining to serve targeted ads (almost 80% of their entire revenue).
 
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I don't understand, how much does the software change underneath, something like a web browser that they would stop supporting it and that too that soon. What ground breaking, earth shattering feature did any browser bring in last few years or even decade, that a so called this particular gem of a new feature wont work on the old hardware for so and so reason.

I can understand for some pro application's new feature not work at all or not work smoothly enough, but, I really don't get that for a web browser.

And seriously, same goes for Apple. If open core patcher, can make newest OS run and run smoothly on older macs then why can apple.

i mean, if a software is purposely deigned to check the version and deny to operate even if its fully capable then i think its really bad.

As a software dev, I can at least understand this part a bit.

First, although Big Sur was only released around 5 years ago, the computers that can’t upgrade to a newer version are around 10 years old or older. Although computer hardware is not changing as fast as before, 10 years is quite enough time to accumulate a significant amount of changes. Each change might not have been big, but they do add up.

Second, browsers have been changing a lot and added support for quite a few features compared to 10 years ago. Google and others have been adding a lot of GPU optimizations, CSS features, JavaScript features, and other CPU optimizations. Actually, browsers have become bloated with tons of features. You can go to the CanIUse
Website to find lots of features that weren’t around 10 years ago. For example, WebGL 2 and WebAssembly.

The websites you visit might not be changing, but lots of other sites and apps have changed and do use newer features.

Supporting old hardware means spending a lot of time and money to figure out how to do things that would be easier on new hardware. I don’t work low level with the CPU and GPU so I don’t know the specifics regarding Chrome, but I use plenty of new features in browsers that weren’t around 10 years ago. I have had to support web apps that were built 10 years ago and it is a pain to work on them. Lots of features I take for granted are not available.
 
end of software support is a the major factor in me upgrading my 2014 air soonish.

Probably try to wait to around Black Friday.

Like I said in a previous post that would be the perfect time for Apple to release the new MacBook with the a18.
 
Interesting to read about preferences..When running an outdated macOS on an iMac I upgraded to the M1 Mac Mini and switched to Firefox which I've found to be equally secure and speedy as Chrome and it syncs nicely with the app on my phone. As with all things in life, individual preferences vary so we choose what feels best :)
 
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I'm surprised people use Chrome at all. You know, given the ****ty company that makes it and the bloated piece of garbage that browser is. To each his own, I guess.

Is Chrome the "new IE" in your view? Remember how we used to conclude the same about IE and Microsoft? Oh, those were the rebel days of being a Mac user... and, ultimately, we prevailed.

Chrome is a great browser in its own right because, unlike IE of old, it adheres to web standards, and does a few things better than Safari.
 
I'm surprised people use Chrome at all. You know, given the ****ty company that makes it and the bloated piece of garbage that browser is. To each his own, I guess.
Well if only safari was able to run the website I need for work smoothly without any issue. But that’s not the case. And random websites simply don’t work as well on safari compared to others. Call it web monopoly but devs just don’t give as much weight to safari as chrome.
 
2001-2004 - peak of microsoft internet explorer
2004-2008 - peak of mozilla firefox
2008-Present - peak of google chrome
 
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You think it’s bad now wait until Intel is completely dropped, google will jump from Big Sur to macOS 27

Some of my computers are still running Mojave and Firefox is still providing security updates for their ESR version a year after they said they would stop. :rolleyes:
Nope, because of enterprise, that hardware (Intel Mac’s) in use inside browser making companies and others.
 
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Articles like this sure ducked the point home for the new versioning scheme with number instead of nonsense names. Is Monterrey before Big Sur or Lake Tahoe or whatever? I have no idea.
 
I'm surprised people use Chrome at all. You know, given the ****ty company that makes it and the bloated piece of garbage that browser is. To each his own, I guess.
There are some add ins you get only with chrome (desktop! Not Mobile!)
For some reasons i have to use them. But for the most i use safari.
(Private relay and vpn on of course)
 
Well if only safari was able to run the website I need for work smoothly without any issue. But that’s not the case. And random websites simply don’t work as well on safari compared to others. Call it web monopoly but devs just don’t give as much weight to safari as chrome.
As it turns out, Safari and Chrome are not the only browsers available. I use Firefox and you also have Edge as mainstream browsers, and then you also have many other small ones. Personally, I never have compatibility problems with Firefox and it's very fast.
 
There are some add ins you get only with chrome (desktop! Not Mobile!)
For some reasons i have to use them. But for the most i use safari.
(Private relay and vpn on of course)
Can you give examples of add-ons that you find in Chrome that you can't find in Firefox?
 
Can you give examples of add-ons that you find in Chrome that you can't find in Firefox?
Fire fox is not my browser. Safari is.
So, my addons are all geo specific. Strava, garmin. I am planing bike routes with this add ons mainly on komoot, squadrats, statshunters, veloviewer etc. And for me this is like having a credit card or not
 

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Fire fox is not my browser. Safari is.
So, my addons are all geo specific. Strava, garmin. I am planing bike routes with this add ins on komoot, squadrats, statshunters, veloviewer etc
Well, since you said "There are some add ins you get only with chrome" I thought you meant that there are some add ins that you get only with Chrome. If Safari is your browser, all I can say is good for you.
 
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