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hmm. I don't have Flash installed. I've taken to using Chrome to view the Flash encumbered content that Safari doesn't have the libraries to handle. It happens more than you might think. Slate, get with the bloody program.
 
To be fair, 6 years ago there were a lot of websites that you couldn't visit without Flash.

I remember all the Las Vegas hotels used 100% flash website, it would show nothing if you didn't have flash
 
Who still uses Flash?
its a relic from the mid-90s when the whole world was different. Adapt or die.

Sadly, some big company websites I ran into need flash + some TV streaming sites. I keep FF on Mac around especially for that.
 
I remember all the Las Vegas hotels used 100% flash website, it would show nothing if you didn't have flash

I seem to recall all the major auto brands websites would tell you that you needed Flash to access their websites. It was inconvenient to not be able to visit those sites because Apple wanted to move away from it.
 
Who cares in the long run? If you don't use Chrome, then this doesn't affect you. Bye bye.

I use Chrome across all platforms (gives me the best experience with Chrome Sync) and rarely, if ever, use Safari. Like most average people, I don't give a crap about Flash. If the site loads, i'm happy. If it doesn't, I'm not and I try a different browser.

I might add whether dropping Flash has made the internet a safer place after all these years? With Ransomware, never-ending data breaches, viruses, and other annoying malware, I don't really hear people saying "Thank God Flash is gone...I feel much safer!".

It's not a safety thing for me, since Adobe makes sure that I get the latest security exploit fix update every week or so...

It's the hit on my processor, the nasty rendering, the never ending flash updates, etc.

I, personally never use Chrome unless I'm forced, and use Safari almost exclusively.
 
When Adobe purchased Macromedia EVERYTHING that Macromedia had in it's stable was left to die - Adobe killed an absolutely great company in Macromedia ... all Adobe did was kill off the competition. Adobe Illustrator will NEVER equal what Freehand was.
I miss Macromedia Fireworks. It was a lean application that did so much so quickly and took up so little RAM. Flash was a great animation tool that was expanded to do things it should never have been asked to do.
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I miss Macromedia Fireworks. It was a lean application that did so much so quickly and took up so little RAM. Flash was a great cartoon animation tool that was expanded to do things it should never have been asked to do.
 
Who cares about Chrome. Edge will take over. Even the Mac.

Edit: Hm, maybe I sould add a smiley. There: :rolleyes:
 
Remember when androids big feature was supporting flash? Is this Google admitting it was wrong 9 years later?
That was 9 years ago. The web has changed since then and more and more websites now prefer HTML5 over Flash these days. It's come to a point where disabling Flash would not have much of an impact to consumer browsing experience as it did 9 years ago. Back then, most websites had some form of Flash content on them, making it more difficult for browsers to disable it. Web developers were going gung-ho with Adobe Flash and HTML5 was not as advanced as it was back then.

Looking back, Steve Jobs was definitely right when he said that HTML5 was the future and I remember the commotion on these forums and the tech community about Apple not supporting Flash. I was one of them who was disappointed but in retrospect, if Apple had not stopped supporting Flash, HTML5 would not have had the boost it needed to get to where it is now. Jobs just had the balls to pull the trigger
 
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Remember when androids big feature was supporting flash? Is this Google admitting it was wrong 9 years later?
Google supports many different technologies. One of them is HTML5, since 2009:
https://www.w3.org/blog/2009/05/watching-the-google-io/ said:
From:
https://www.w3.org/blog/2009/05/watching-the-google-io/

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Watching the Google I/O first day keynote, I’m pleased to see the level of support and interest from Google about HTML5.
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See also (starting from 11:35):
Google I/O 2009 - Keynote Day 1 (full)
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That was 9 years ago...

...in retrospect, if Apple had not stopped supporting Flash, HTML5 would not have had the boost it needed to get to where it is now. Jobs just had the balls to pull the trigger
I think the adoption of HTML5 as a standard has nothing to do with Apples non existing support for Flash. HTML5 was/is necessary for new devices like smart phones or tablet computers. The W3C played also a big role in this case.
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Remember when Apple started this trend? Did you not expect Google not to follow?
You mean Apple followed.
 
I wouldn't have blamed someone for taking an anti-iPhone position in 2007 or 2008 with respect to its lack of Flash support. It was a different technological landscape at the time; if you needed to use Flash (which was a perfectly legitimate need at the time,) you had to use Android or Blackberry. By the same token, however, it would be ludicrous in 2016 for someone to cite lack of Flash support as being a primary reason for not getting an iPhone. The landscape has changed.

Perhaps eliminating the headphone jack will prove in the long-term to be another ahead-of-its-time progressive move by Apple, but, much like Flash in 2007/2008, I would not blame someone in 2016 for moving away from the iPhone because for one reason or another they need the headphone jack, especially since Apple may not propose an elegant solution for charging+listening at the same time, and particularly because Apple's proposed solution - lightning headphones - will never be the universal standard for wired listening (the only way to truly receive a lossless signal) that HTML5 is for web content. If in 2025 headphone jacks are all-but-obsolete and if there is a truly high fidelity mainstream bluetooth option available, it would be a different story altogether.

I agree with everything you've said, but I do think it's completely valid to remove the headphone jack at this point.

While I was annoyed and bitter when I first heard the rumor, I've come around to realizing that I haven't actually used my headphone jack more than a few times per year. Without even realizing it, my bluetooth headphones have gobbled up the usage of my normal headphones. On my Mac, it makes total sense to keep using wired headphones, because hours of work being interrupted by headphone batteries isn't something I want. Phones are mobile devices, and any cable that limits that mobility and freedom isn't worthwhile.

I think all of the bitter people of today will soon suck it up and buy bluetooth headphones. Once they have a good set, I can't imagine they'll complain.
 
On a completely unrelated note, I'm looking forward to getting the new iPhone. Y'know, that one without a headphone jack. ;)

It is actually quite related when you think about it ;) Like a deja vo kind of thing. There are lot of pissed off people about it and It would be fun few years from now getting back and reading their comments :)
 
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Get rid of obnoxious Adobe Flash once and for all. HRML5 is way much better.
 
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