Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I've never had a single issue with Flash in all my 30 years using Windows / Mac systems - ever. The only thing that bugged me was flash was used for ads - so used an ad-blocker. The real reason they are pushing HTML 5 is because of it's built-in DRM controls which Flash does not have - kind of a Trojan Horse.

It uses Encrypted Media Extension which is part of HTML 5 - read here: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...security-holes-and-defaults-to-html5.2019358/ plus here: http://www.defectivebydesign.org/sign-on-against-drm-in-html. I don't and won't support any DRM and never will.
 
I'm happy for Google's coding progress and for moving the web forward. But I cannot use a browser that funnels my privacy and browsing habits into the hands of advertisers and government surveillance.
MacRumors.com does exactly this. They use Google Analytics. The majority of websites use Google Analytics. So Google knows exactly what you do here on MacRumors and other websites, even if you use Firefox or other non-Google browsers.

Besides that, privacy does not exist on the internet.
[doublepost=1480899315][/doublepost]
...The BBC are giving a bad user experience when they could simply detect the browser and play the correct video. As it stands, we have to jump through a couple of hoops to get the video to play.

How many other sites are doing this?...
A lot. Another thing is the stupid geo-blocking. So I can't watch BBC videos abroad.
[doublepost=1480899607][/doublepost]
...The real reason they are pushing HTML 5 is because of it's built-in DRM controls which Flash does not have...
Flash has DRM controls.
 
The majority of websites use Google Analytics. So Google knows exactly what you do here on MacRumors and other websites, even if you use Firefox or other non-Google browsers.

Besides that, privacy does not exist on the internet.

Not with no script or similar in place it gets black holed. As to the privacy I have been online for going on thirty years now and I search on my name from time to time for the hell of it and I appear nowhere. Now companies I have done business with obviously know who and where I am but nothing appears on the web associated with my name in it. No farcebook or any of that junk has ever been allowed on my machines the odd forum like this for things I am interested in that is it.

Edit: Over 30 as I found old PC MAG article talking about 2400 baud modem (the first I ever used) from end of 1984, I just had to know so searched.
 
Last edited:
MacRumors.com does exactly this. They use Google Analytics. The majority of websites use Google Analytics. So Google knows exactly what you do here on MacRumors and other websites, even if you use Firefox or other non-Google browsers.

Besides that, privacy does not exist on the internet.
[doublepost=1480899315][/doublepost]
A lot. Another thing is the stupid geo-blocking. So I can't watch BBC videos abroad.
[doublepost=1480899607][/doublepost]
Flash has DRM controls.

You do realise there is a free Google plugin to opt out of Google Analytics data - TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/b64p88t ? Plus I use an Ad blocker as well. As for DRM it's not enforced with Java and you can uninstall Java as well whereas with HTML 5 its embedded in it. I wont accept for support any DRM and have always managed to bypass it.
 
MacRumors.com does exactly this. They use Google Analytics. The majority of websites use Google Analytics. So Google knows exactly what you do here on MacRumors and other websites, even if you use Firefox or other non-Google browsers.

I use uBlock Origin on Firefox, along with several other extensions to prevent tracking through behavioral, heuristic and blacklist detection.


Besides that, privacy does not exist on the internet.

It certainly won't if everyone believes it's gone.

Google (and others) want you to believe privacy is gone so that you will accept tracking for advertisers as a given. This lets them slowly ratchet up the heat by being even more invasive or seeking pricing comparable to non-privacy-invasive alternatives (e.g. Pixel pricing v. iPhone).
 
Why do people use Chrome? Safari does a great job and syncs well across all devices. What does Chrome do so well that Safari doesn't?
Extensions, developer tools, direct integration with G Suite security policies, google cloud print (is nice)
 
In light of the welcome move away from flash, it's interesting that Google Play Music and Spotify both still rely on it for their web players.
 
In light of the welcome move away from flash, it's interesting that Google Play Music and Spotify both still rely on it for their web players.

Google Play Music no longer uses flash but it's HTML5 (at least a few months ago there was an option in settings and now it's default because I have Flash plugin disabled)
 
Why do people use Chrome? Safari does a great job and syncs well across all devices. What does Chrome do so well that Safari doesn't?
Works on windows/Linux. :D

Google should take a leaf to Apples approach and just remove ports sorry flash from chrome.

Sites have had long enough to switch away from flash.
 
That's a valid point. Someone will find a way to block these, as I completely agree that's super annoying. The part that sucks is we will go through a period where the auto play will continue to happen.

That was one of the purposes for HTML 5 - the inability to block ads (remember iAds?)
 
The main reason I don't use Chrome is that, after 5+ years, they still have not fixed their color management system. The over-saturated colors on wide gamut display hurt my eyes.
 
Here is a simple problem I have with Safari.

How do I add bookmarks (not favorites) as a bar to Safari?

I'm only seeing an option to add a bar for favorites but not bookmarks.
 
I am torn on this one. At home, I use mostly Safari, but at work, we use vCenter 5.5 pretty heavily, and it requires flash. I have been using Chrome because I would rather not install the flash plugin on my work or home Macs (iMac at work, 13" MBP at home).

To anyone using vCenter 6+, does it still require flash?
Yep. They're supposedly working on an HTML5 interface, but as far as I can tell, it's only available on ESX 6 directly, not on vCenter. Meanwhile, as far as I can tell, no HTML5 UI is planned for NSX in the next two years.
 
Yep. They're supposedly working on an HTML5 interface, but as far as I can tell, it's only available on ESX 6 directly, not on vCenter. Meanwhile, as far as I can tell, no HTML5 UI is planned for NSX in the next two years.
Thanks for the info--guess I will have to use my Windows 10 VM and vSphere client once flash is removed from Chrome.
 
A lot. Another thing is the stupid geo-blocking. So I can't watch BBC videos abroad.
UK TV licence payers should be able to watch it abroad, but there's currently no way for the BBC to determine who you are and whether you are allowed to view the content. They need to sort that out. Until then, I just use a VPN that says I'm in the UK.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.