Google Chrome help

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by Peter Franks, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. Peter Franks macrumors 68000

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    Have to ask this, but, Why on CPU is there 10, TEN, Google Chrome Helpers on there that makes the fan hit an all time high?

    I know the score with Firefox and Safari, but Firefox just doesn't do it for me, and YouTube flickers al the time on the latest version. Safari doesn't seem safe enough with adblockers, they don't stop a lot of stuff that I feel it probably should. But, Chrome I'm just used to, but it does wind me up that it hogs so much CPU. I'm sure before High Sierra, it maybe showed about 3 or 4 helpers, but now it's 10 sometimes. Is there any explanation for that?
     
  2. Fishrrman macrumors P6

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    The best advice I can offer re Chrome is:
    Don't use it...
     
  3. Significant1 macrumors 6502a

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    Google really broke fullscreen mode in Chrome with the anniversary update. But I am still struggling to switch.

    That said I don't have your problem. Yes I have all the same helpers in activity monitor, but they are not eating cpu. A better way to really determine what Chrome spends it time on is to use it own activity monitor, which you find in the Windows menu.

    On top of ad-blockers you may also block crypto mining with minerBlock or similar.
    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/minerblock/emikbbbebcdfohonlaifafnoanocnebl
     
  4. chown33 Moderator

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    I'm pretty sure Chrome will run a Chrome Helper for each tab or window you have open.

    Close some tabs and see what happens.
     
  5. keysofanxiety macrumors G3

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    Little known fact: Chrome is so resource hungry, manufacturers now use it instead of 3DMark and Memtest86 if they want to stress test their hardware.
     
  6. Peter Franks, Oct 25, 2018
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    Peter Franks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Chown, that was my obvious first thought, That WOULD make sense, but no. It was one tab, the main window on it's own. It's nothing to do with how many tabs are open. It's a pain, I wish Safari was better.

    Crypto mining?

    Unbelievable, and they don't care, judging by the millions of moans
     
  7. chscag macrumors 68040

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    What version of Chrome is everyone using then? The latest is Version 72.0.3590.0 (Official Build) dev (64-bit) and definitely not resource intensive.
     
  8. vkd macrumors 6502a

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    AFAIK it starts off with the core service and a helper then for every new tab a new helper appears. Closing tabs doesn't get rid of helpers necessarily. Well, it will over time but not immediately. To immediately get rid of all the helpers you have to quit Chrome and open it again. That will equalise the helpers-to-tabs ratio. AFAIK. Chrome isn't the only browser that manages resources like this.
     
  9. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    My understanding is that each tab in Chrome runs in it's own protected process. The more tabs open the more processes running.

    The idea is that if a tab crashes then the process that is running it quits, or can be quit. In this manner it doesn't take down the entire browser when one tab crashes, only the affected tab.
     
  10. NoBoMac Moderator

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    Also, quick scan of some Google docs, and testing on my Chrome copy, each extension and app you might have is a separate Chrome Helper process as well. Turned off one, Helper count dropped by one.

    And there are at least one hidden helper as well: Google's Flash that comes bundled with Chrome. Looks like also one for Google Drive/Docs, but that one shows in the Extensions screen.
     
  11. Peter Franks, Oct 25, 2018
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    Peter Franks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    This is weird, I hadn't opened any other tabs today. Must have been a hangover from an accumulation of pre boot? It's not behaved since the Sierra/High Sierra upgrade.

    Same as these white lines I get on video now. But in fairness, these white lines when you open and enlarge clips online also happen on Safari at times.
    Is this a sad lack of something to do with graphic cards on a 2011 MBP? Never had the lines pre Sierra. Even with the SSD it can't cope with these later OS?

    I even had this problem with the white lines when enlarging on the iPhone 8 yesterday on some web pics in Safari
    [​IMG]
     
  12. Peter Franks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Why does this say it's up to date if you're on the later version?

    Google Chrome is up to date
    Version 70.0.3538.77 (Official Build) (64-bit)
     
  13. chrfr macrumors 604

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    Chrome 70.0.3538.77 is the current version. You're on a developer build as evidenced by "dev" in your version number.
     
  14. Peter Franks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Sorry you’ll have to explain that one to me. There’s a slide for that. What’s the meaning/difference. I’m not clued up on this, as you probably gathered. I tried googling and nothing explains the difference. What’s developer build?
     
  15. chrfr macrumors 604

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    It's a "work in progress" version, not for general usage.
     
  16. Peter Franks, Oct 26, 2018
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    Peter Franks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Am i being really stupid here by assuming that because I don't build websites, I don't need 'developer mode'? That's the only explanation I see for 'dev tools'.
    [​IMG]
     
  17. satcomer macrumors 603

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    YES it is RESOURCE HOG on Mac OS!
     
  18. Peter Franks, Nov 29, 2018
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    Peter Franks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Is it my imagination or is Chrome getting worse. I still see a dozen 'helpers' murdering CPU but only one tab open so the theory it's one per tab, is wrong
     
  19. Significant1 macrumors 6502a

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    Do they use cpu? else they are not murdering cpu. I guess they also isolate other parts into own process-space for security, so you cannot just expect number of processes to match the number of tabs, but you expect there to be at least as many processes as you have tabs. They don't murder your cpu simply by being there, if they are not doing anything. However it does consume more memory, than had it all been in one process, but also less stable.
     
  20. Peter Franks thread starter macrumors 68000

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    There are sites that no adblocker on the planet can stop pop-up videos opening incessantly 3 times a page. Daily Mail UK for one. Hideous site for the MBP and Chrome for some reason. Always bricks my laptop. I have never ever found a blocker for their incessant videos. Even Gmail which is one of their own, the fan goes ballistic when on Chrome, much more since last update of Gmail. I was under the impression updates are supposed to improve things. Chrome is now horrendous.

    Sadly, Safari is very unsecure for me and let’s loads more undesirable pop ups and unwanted downloads in than Chrome does, and I just don’t like Firefox at all.

    Maybe it’s my MBP. Who knows? It’s probably too old and I was mistaken thinking a new SSD and RAM upgrade would help those problems
     
  21. Significant1 macrumors 6502a

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    I agree that the 10year anniversary update (ver 69) was/is a disaster with Mac fullscreen and I don't understand how there is not more complaining. It really took the worst from Windows version brought to the macOS instead of the other way :-(
     
  22. Fishrrman macrumors P6

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    If you want to try browsers -other than- Safari, I'd suggest:
    - Opera
    - iCab
    - Firefox
    - Epic Privacy Browser
     

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