Google Chrome Set to Gain Integrated Flash Player Plug-In

[cumanzor]

I'm definitely not a Google fan but I have to admit they've created some good products. However, I think its clear to most whats their motivation to create and provide us with information (advertising is their business and they want the efficiency). Regarding Apple "unshackling end users from proprietary plug-ins", honestly Apple is really not doing any of that. First of all there are no "shackles" to get rid of in the first place. That talk is some open source aficionado bull. Create me a highly interactive rich media site with opens source tools and I show you a super duper geek with way too much time in their hands. Having variety of tools, open source or not in your disposal is freedom. Having being locked down in one solution is not, be it open source or not. Regarding Apple's aim with Flash on pads, phones and pods is not to support open standards. Its to control media distribution. If you want open then let us install what ever plug-ins we like so we can decide ourselves what we want to use. Anyway, regarding the annoying banners. Why on earth would anyone think we won't be seeing plethora of HTML5 banners as soon as HTML5 has reached wider support on browsers.

Just like usual, the most coherent comments in here get ignored. People who think Apple is on the side of open standards are deluded. The only reason why they want to get rid of Flash is to control and have only one distribution channel. And that's perfectly fine, it's a business after all, but please don't be such a hypocrite and say that you support open standards yet you are cornering your customers into one and only one way of doing things.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Again I am failing to see how this is FLASH's fault versus the implementation of flash by developers.

 

[wcarpenter]

Bullcrap, most users do know of the problems with flash but they blame their browser for the problems rather than the plugin itself.When most of the Safari crashes are due to flash - how many people here in their wisdom blame Safari when it is Flash causing the problem? did they look through the core dump or did they just conclude Safari was the cause because Safari crashed? talk about people who think they're IT experts being shown up for the bloviating fools that they really are.

Ok, and how do you know it's not the code running within the Flash application and not the Flash Plug-in itself that crashed the browser. The Plug-In is at the mercy of the developer who built the application to produce clean code that cleans up Objects it is finished with and occasionally (if you're running a huge application with tons of moving parts) run garbage collection manually. If people don't know how to produce solid code, then yes, it will cause problems. However, it's important to note that I've also had Javascript, PHP, .NET, Java, etc... crash my browser.

Bad code is bad code...most Flash sites run perfectly fine on my macbook pro...both in Firefox and Safari. (Also in IE using XP via VMWare Fusion).

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Ok, and how do you know it's not the code running within the Flash application and not the Flash Plug-in itself that crashed the browser. The Plug-In is at the mercy of the developer who built the application to produce clean code that cleans up Objects it is finished with and occasionally (if you're running a huge application with tons of moving parts) run garbage collection manually. If people don't know how to produce solid code, then yes, it will cause problems. However, it's important to note that I've also had Javascript, PHP, .NET, Java, etc... crash my browser.

Bad code is bad code...most Flash sites run perfectly fine on my macbook pro...both in Firefox and Safari. (Also in IE using XP via VMWare Fusion).

Because Apple says Google and Adobe are evil and incompetent; not the developers.

 

[zweigand]

One question. Is this some special version of the Flash plugin just for Chrome? When you download a new Chrome update with a new version of Flash, does it update Flash globally (where Safari/Firefox also get the latest version), or do you still have to download and install the global plugin separately?

 

[Corbin052198]

Open-Source

If Google Chrome is open-source (and the soon-to-be Chrome OS already is), then does Flash change that? Flash is not open-source, but Chrome is. Will Flash's code be open-sourced, or will Flash just be excluded from the Google Chronium code builds?

 

[Stridder44]

Thanks for your growing stupidity, Google...one more reason to avoid using Chrome anyway.

GOOGLE IS DEAD.

Yeah I can totally see this move sinking a $160 billion company.

Take your sensationalism somewhere else please.

 

[RazHyena]

Safari is the worst resource hog of all browsers I have tested on my Macs - that's why I use Firefox now.

I couldn't disagree with you more. I mean seriously...firefox's sluggish performance and security holes were the two biggest reasons I jumped over to Safari....which is an "ok" browser, but way better than firefox.

 

[ryrock77]

You will still see flash content embedded into html5 pages. Html5 is not a flash killer. Mobile friendly yes but Flash killer no.

 

[PeterQVenkman]

Google: trying very hard not to be evil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfV6RzE30&feature=player_embedded

 

[tkermit]

Google: trying very hard not to be evil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfV6RzE30&feature=player_embedded

It really makes me feel unwell when I see Google's many involvements in our lives spelt out so succinctly, even though I suppose one already knows this but tries not to think about it too much.

No one company should be an aggregator of that amount of data. Google's current management may even be trustworthy - who knows - but once the data is there to access, the temptation is simply too great for certain parties not to try to benefit from it, be it now or in the future. We should really be asking ourselves, whether the benefits in this case outweigh the potential risk of data aggregation, analysis and the creation of detailed profiles about us that can easily be misused or lost.

They also picked an appropriate and appalling quote from Eric Schmidt for the video ("if you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place")

Far more important than a motto like "don't be evil" would be Google setting strict, systematic and industry-leading privacy guidelines for themselves.

 

[PeterQVenkman]

I used to think that Google was the new Microsoft, but that's way, WAY off. There has never been anything like Google. It really is frightening. Their fiber optic network might be coming to my city. I'm a little worried about getting the tendrils of skynet directly in my town.

 

[donga]

just downloaded google chrome and it has been awesome thus far. better than firefox, i don't know why i kept on using it...