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Sounds like air tags are completely useless now for certain use cases. Eg. Putting one in your car/other valuable item incase it gets stolen. Now it will alert the thieves !

Air tags was never meant to be used that way. if you are using an Anti thief you are using it in correctly. They are more likely to get used for stalking than doing anything to prevent anti theif.
 
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But half assed so that users still have to use 4 digit pin that can be easily spied on, leading to their iPhone being stolen and then Bank accounts emptied
The iOS default is 6 digits AFAIK and has been for a good while now. And you’re free to use a password instead. That said pretty much every debit-/creditcard here has a 4-digit pin. I have yet to hear or read about extreme widespread situations where everyone constantly sees their bank account being emptied because of that.
 
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I don't understand why both companies wouldn't make the systems completely interoperable.


....wait never mind, I am sure it was Apple not playing nice again. <sigh>
I’m still trying to find out if that’s the case or not. If my iPhone is lost, can a nearby Android device update its location for the Apple Find My network? Or are these two separate networks that only communicate to nearby devices that a device is moving with a user?
 
I am google free kinda. Sadly using the internet means I'm always supply google data that they use to make money off me. oh well. lol
 
It is always a breath of fresh air to have the latest Android news on Macrumors. 💩
That’s because there are so many Fandroids here sniffing the flowers on the nicer side of the garden wall… They need to get their update news from somewhere.
 
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Regarding Google copying Apple, Steve Jobs said, "I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this." Unfortunately, Jobs died soon after, and that corporate suit Tim Cook took over and completely dropped Jobs's quest for justice by dropping the planned lawsuit because Cook is soulless.

So, people who are disappointed that Google still shamelessly copies Apple, should not blame Google, but should instead blame Cook.
 
Regarding Google copying Apple, Steve Jobs said, "I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this." Unfortunately, Jobs died soon after, and that corporate suit Tim Cook took over and completely dropped Jobs's quest for justice by dropping the planned lawsuit because Cook is soulless.

So, people who are disappointed that Google still shamelessly copies Apple, should not blame Google, but should instead blame Cook.
As if it was ever going to happen. Jobs lost the lawsuit on Samsung and he would never ever had won this. Plus Jobs would never have made Apple a multi trillion dollar company. Cook haters are so boring
 
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Yes, android zombies seem to spend their time on Macrumors. Might as well give them some Android news. 🤪

Well let us not forget that the website is called Macrumors as you were able to point out and NOT iPhone rumors. I'm interested in all new tech and often buy Apple products but not exclusively. You may have difficulty understanding this but brand loyalty is a suckers game. You may have further difficulty understanding that its possible to both own an iPhone and criticize Apple at the same time. At the end of the day its just your phone and hopefully not your whole personality.
 
Copying Apple. Classic Google.

Having no idea that a tech existed before Apple is classic MacRumors commenter. Tile was first with a tag based tracking network which worked great until Apple decided to implement their own. At that point they limited Tiles ability to work while pushing their own tags. Typical Apple behavior these days. I miss the days when Apple R&D went to designing amazing products. These days they just use their size and control to limit or kill competition and silo off their services so they only work with each other. Oh, and on top of that Samsung released their still excellent SmartTag before the Apple AirTag as well. By my count that puts Apple in 3rd place and Google in 4th. 3rd & 4th place isn't really bragging territory.
 
Having no idea that a tech existed before Apple is classic MacRumors commenter. Tile was first with a tag based tracking network which worked great until Apple decided to implement their own. At that point they limited Tiles ability to work while pushing their own tags. Typical Apple behavior these days. I miss the days when Apple R&D went to designing amazing products. These days they just use their size and control to limit or kill competition and silo off their services so they only work with each other. Oh, and on top of that Samsung released their still excellent SmartTag before the Apple AirTag as well. By my count that puts Apple in 3rd place and Google in 4th. 3rd & 4th place isn't really bragging territory.
To be fair. Tile only worked in San Fran where other tiles were. AirTags worked across the world at launch. Having a tag might have been tiles idea. Having it work well is Apples. They implemented it properly whereas Tile, if they had have thought of it, couldn’t have used android in the first instance. I’m glad android now has this and maybe they won’t feel so aggrieved with iMessage.
 
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I don't understand why both companies wouldn't make the systems completely interoperable.


....wait never mind, I am sure it was Apple not playing nice again. <sigh>
Apple should share the technology they developed with google ?
wouldn't it be nice if Apple made how they design their processors open source so that competitors can compete with Apple ?
customers and other businesses would benefit from this, except Apple.
 
HAHAHA. What are you smoking? Literally every "IOS" innovation Apple has produced since the iPhone 3G was copied from Google (and implemented years later). Google is like literally Apple's best R&D member. Ther rare occasion Google borrows an idea is fine with me.... Apple still in their debt.
Google basically copied the whole OS, UI, form factor from Apple.
 
Apple should share the technology they developed with google ?
wouldn't it be nice if Apple made how they design their processors open source so that competitors can compete with Apple ?
customers and other businesses would benefit from this, except Apple.
They did share their technology. That’s why Android did this. Or do you mean share their hardware. 😂 yeah right.
 
Apple should share the technology they developed with google ?
wouldn't it be nice if Apple made how they design their processors open source so that competitors can compete with Apple ?
customers and other businesses would benefit from this, except Apple.
They did what they always do, make something that they didn't invent better. However, unlike some of their other core features or technologies, this is something that can benefit everyone. It could have gone the route of how Apple joined the consortium to create Matter and then integrate it into HomeKit. But the didn't take that path.
 
I’m still trying to find out if that’s the case or not. If my iPhone is lost, can a nearby Android device update its location for the Apple Find My network? Or are these two separate networks that only communicate to nearby devices that a device is moving with a user?
They are not interoperable to locate your device, only to stop location sharing from a device that is tracking you. However, since both Apple and Google are allowing third parties to join their systems, there could be an option for a third party to build a tracker that would work across both. It would have just been a lot better for the industry if they would have joined up like Apple did for Matter and HomeKit support. Then a thief stealing an iPhone or Android has no where they can go where they won't have the device tracked.
 
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