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Good question:

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It looks like more fail services from Google:

Android One = Google+
Android L = Chromebook
Android Wear = Google Glass
Android Auto = Google Latitude
Android TV = Google TV

And there's more (Nexus Q) but you only listed 5.

:apple:

Yeah Google has failed. 1billion active users per month. Apple doesn't even compare at all. Would failed?
 
Are you asking why the black strip? That's where the display drivers are located.

It is a fundamentally bad design.

That is like an laptop w/ expose wiring from the panel to the base.

Or in watch terms,
like a $10 Chinese knock-off watch where:
There is a timezone bezel w/ no multizone functionality.
A Tachmeyter on a watch w/out a Chronograph functionality.
A Moonphase design w/ out actually working to show the different phases on the moon throughout the month.
A power reserve meter on an automatic movement.
Or a Three button chronograph w/out a Chronograph which is fairly popular poor design.

The whole premise of the design is to have it look like a conventional watch and it fails at that:
1. The promise of configurable dials is limited to black background because a white dial would lose all symmetry
2. You can never have a 6 oclock marker or sub-dial in that area if you want to re-produce a 3 face Chronograph.
 
Half? Please turn down the fanboy. Maybe 3 or 4 didn't work. But that's what happens when you:



1: Livestream it out to ANYONE who wants to watch it. Apple *sometimes* livestreams events, and only if you want to watch it on an Apple device.

2: Showcase stuff several months before release

3: Don't put absurd restrictions on what the audience is/isn't allowed to do in terms of streaming, recording, and broadcasting

4: Have more than a tiny audience

5: Show off more than 1 new product or piece of software



If this had happened at an Apple event, they would have cut the feed and edited the video to make it appear nothing happened. They also would have told the reporters they weren't allowed to talk about any problems that happened. In short, we never would have known.



Google, on the other hand, isn't petrified of making mistakes and would rather risk a few problems while showing actual innovation.



I'm genuinely shocked you didn't accuse them of stealing Apple's smartwatch ideas, even though no one actually knows what Apple's smartwatch will do/have.


You should read the story behind the iPhone 2007 keynote and all the preparation that went into it.
 
It is a fundamentally bad design.

That is like an laptop w/ expose wiring from the panel to the base.

Or in watch terms,
like a $10 Chinese knock-off watch where:
There is a timezone bezel w/ no multizone functionality.
A Tachmeyter on a watch w/out a Chronograph functionality.
A Moonphase design w/ out actually working to show the different phases on the moon throughout the month.
A power reserve meter on an automatic movement.
Or a Three button chronograph w/out a Chronograph which is fairly popular poor design.

The whole premise of the design is to have it look like a conventional watch and it fails at that:
1. The promise of configurable dials is limited to black background because a white dial would lose all symmetry
2. You can never have a 6 oclock marker or sub-dial in that area if you want to re-produce a 3 face Chronograph.

Its like the antenna seams on the iPhone (which were not symmetrical until the 4S). Unfortunate to look at, but required to accomplish what they wanted to do. I agree it looks a little off, but like the antenna breaks, people will get used to it. And of all the smartwatch designs we've seen it's still the most popular despite that flaw.
 
Google Launches First Android Wear Devices, Featuring Always-On Displays and ...

so much ********, fear and jealousy from the Apple fanatics in this thread, LOL.


I can't speak for everyone else but I find the idea of fanboy of a corporation bit puzzling.

Certainly many people are here because they like the apple products but this isn't like a sports team or a religion, where fanaticism takes precedent over reason.
When people express their positive or negative views on a product, it's probably not because they are google fanboys or Apple fanboys.
They probably just don't like the product.

I mean would you call anyone a Samsung refrigerator fanboy or a LG laundry machine fanboy?
 
You mean like this?

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Some of us do have these watches. This is only 1/4 of my collection.

I don't doubt it at all.... Just that a lot of people are full of crap.

Why do you have so many subbies? :D

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It is a fundamentally bad design.

That is like an laptop w/ expose wiring from the panel to the base.

Or in watch terms,
like a $10 Chinese knock-off watch where:
There is a timezone bezel w/ no multizone functionality.
A Tachmeyter on a watch w/out a Chronograph functionality.
A Moonphase design w/ out actually working to show the different phases on the moon throughout the month.
A power reserve meter on an automatic movement.
Or a Three button chronograph w/out a Chronograph which is fairly popular poor design.

The whole premise of the design is to have it look like a conventional watch and it fails at that:
1. The promise of configurable dials is limited to black background because a white dial would lose all symmetry
2. You can never have a 6 oclock marker or sub-dial in that area if you want to re-produce a 3 face Chronograph.

Apparently it was either that or you would need a much thicker bezel around the screen, which would look worse.

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iOS 8 seemed like a giant step forward for the iPhone, where as Android L seems like a gentle next-step evolution. (Nothing wrong with that, it looks like a really good upgrade, I'm just saying.)

No offence but if you think Android 5 is a gentle evolution then you don't understand the significance of it. It is by far the largest and most significant update that Android has ever had.
 
I don't doubt it at all.... Just that a lot of people are full of crap.

Why do you have so many subbies? :D


My collection is pretty small compared to some of the guys I've met on timezone.com Yes. I've met these guys at get-togethers.
I bought a watch every 3 months during the late 1990s dot-com era when I was single and money was flowing. Not as much anymore as I have a family and kids.

Those are not Subbies. GMT Master II ref 35710 on the NATO strap I bought in 2000. The latter is a 50th Anniversary GMT II w/ new Ceramic bezel, sub triplock crown, the one behind that is an Omega Seamaster 2054.50. I actually have a lot of duplicate watches - 2 Speedmaster Professionals, 3 GMTs (of various vintage and generations). They're usually limited edition models or collectibles.I usually have a Submariner in my collection as I buy and flip all the time. The limited stuff are usually in safe deposit boxes.

Those are just the watches I rotate for this week.


Apparently it was either that or you would need a much thicker bezel around the screen, which would look worse.
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You can have rectangular designed watches like the JLCs. So there is no real need to have a "circular" dial just for the sake of it.

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Don't be a hater.
There are many people who own lots of watches.

You might want to re-read my post, note the ending :D, and think to yourself, “This DT dude has been here for some time, seems like he’s pretty dialed in, would he really _think_ that’s some kind of exotic photo edit?”

(Hint: he doesn’t :D )
 
You might want to re-read my post, note the ending :D, and think to yourself, “This DT dude has been here for some time, seems like he’s pretty dialed in, would he really _think_ that’s some kind of exotic photo edit?”



(Hint: he doesn’t :D )


It's sometimes hard to get context in such a long thread.

Someone did accuse me also of not owning a watch I posted a picture of in the same thread so that is where I was coming from.
 
It's sometimes hard to get context in such a long thread.

Someone did accuse me also of not owning a watch I posted a picture of in the same thread so that is where I was coming from.

Hahaha, no problem, my posts are admittedly hard to get a handle on sometimes, but they’re almost always in jest, especially if they seem out in left field.
 
Its like the antenna seams on the iPhone (which were not symmetrical until the 4S). Unfortunate to look at, but required to accomplish what they wanted to do. I agree it looks a little off, but like the antenna breaks, people will get used to it. And of all the smartwatch designs we've seen it's still the most popular despite that flaw.

How come the non-circular smart watches don't have it? I didn't see it on LG or Samsung's square displays. If it exists solely to make the watch face circular then I think it's a failure. What is the benefit to having a circular screen other than that makes it looks more like a traditional watch? To me that would be like Apple saying our phone has to have a physical keyboard otherwise no one will buy it. Seems to me this is textbook form over function. I hope whatever Apple is doing doesn't follow this, or if it does it isn't compromised to do so.
 
Its like the antenna seams on the iPhone (which were not symmetrical until the 4S). Unfortunate to look at, but required to accomplish what they wanted to do. I agree it looks a little off, but like the antenna breaks, people will get used to it. And of all the smartwatch designs we've seen it's still the most popular despite that flaw.

To be honest, I haven't been impressed with any design except for this concept.

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As it doesn't try to be a watch.

I'm seeing problems all over the place with everything shown so far. The Samsung Gear has exposed screws in the back and a plastic case back.
The Moto has the dial issue. It appears to be metal wrapped around a plastic body. It doesn't appear to have standard lug attachments for straps.
Battery life is really questionable.

Most importantly, there are no specs in terms of materials. Is it "AT LEAST" 316L grade steel?
Is the crystal sapphire? These are pretty important specs in a watch. How is the case constructed? Pieced together or housed in a unibody?

Watches tend to take more abuse than a smartphone or electronic gadget. I take my watch to the hot-tub where it gets subjugated to extreme temps.
I do house chores w/ my watch on - Change the oil of my car; sticking my wrist and arms in-between the engine compartment. Or plant flowers in my garden. I walk and bang my wrists (not on purpose) against doors, tables, etc. I may ride a bike and accidentally fall flat and scrub my watch's dial against the dirt or paved roads. I may accidentally drop the watch as I fumble around the top of my dresser.

I also swim and none of these watches are water proof. Water resistent but not water proof as I see open holes for mics and sensors.

These are every-day abuses.
I'm not rock climbing or swimming 300 meters into the abyss but I have a high expectation of ruggedness for something that is not in my pocket but on my body.
 
I think the only reason we are seeing these watches are because of Apple's rumored iWatch.

I would have a hearty laugh if no iWatch was released but another product and all these smart watches will automatically stop being developed
your comment is laughable. I always wonder how people can love Apple so much. I like my electronics but don't let them cloud my sanity.
 
Google vs Apple aside...
Voice commands? Why the hell would I want everyone around me to know what I'm doing on my "smart watch"? Moreover, how the hell will I command my watch by voice in a noisy bar at night?
And that doesn't even take into account different languages/accents.
 
Watches tend to take more abuse than a smartphone or electronic gadget. I take my watch to the hot-tub where it gets subjugated to extreme temps.
I do house chores w/ my watch on - Change the oil of my car; sticking my wrist and arms in-between the engine compartment. Or plant flowers in my garden. I walk and bang my wrists (not on purpose) against doors, tables, etc. I may ride a bike and accidentally fall flat and scrub my watch's dial against the dirt or paved roads. I may accidentally drop the watch as I fumble around the top of my dresser.

I also swim and none of these watches are water proof. Water resistent but not water proof as I see open holes for mics and sensors.

These are every-day abuses.
I'm not rock climbing or swimming 300 meters into the abyss but I have a high expectation of ruggedness for something that is not in my pocket but on my body.

I agree with every point here except with the girly bracelet design above. The battery life is also important in a watch (or bracelet). And I will also add there are casio watches with open holes for various sensors and they are still 100 % waterproof for swimming and diving. So it can be done.
 
fortysomegeek that's very valid points. I don't want to micro manage a watch, being careful with all the stuff you mentioned.
 
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