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thanks!
still useless for me. i use gmail, but not a gmail account
i use google to simply power my custom domians email...
so it doesnt work in gmail, or calendar... or reader...!!!


same

Sure it works with your setup. To access it you would go to google.com/a/yourdomain.com
From there you can access Google Mail, apps, calendar, whatever.
Same interface, same functionality.
 
So, I suppose by that definition, my website's image gallery is an "application". CNN.com is an "application". Amazon.com is an "application".

Never heard them called that. Ever. But to Apple fanboys (or fangirls), even a search box and submit button on a webpage is an "application" now. :rolleyes:
 
So, I suppose by that definition, my website's image gallery is an "application". CNN.com is an "application". Amazon.com is an "application".

Never heard them called that. Ever. But to Apple fanboys (or fangirls), even a search box and submit button on a webpage is an "application" now. :rolleyes:

'Ever notice how you can always tell when somebody loses an argument online because they start calling all their opponents fanboys?
 
This is lovely. Very responsive and very readable.

Regarding google docs, I still can't seem to be able to edit it. But text documents are parsed perfectly for the iPhone screen, so there is no zooming in or out needed–very legible. I will be more thrilled when I can edit, though.

Also love how picassa albums load beautifully at optimized size that seems to load rather briskly.
 
So, I suppose by that definition, my website's image gallery is an "application". CNN.com is an "application". Amazon.com is an "application".

Never heard them called that. Ever. But to Apple fanboys (or fangirls), even a search box and submit button on a webpage is an "application" now. :rolleyes:

wow are you dense, you are obviously not a software engineer so I don't understand why you are ranting about things you do not understand. A web application is a server-client model. The browser is nothing more than an intelligent terminal to access the application which is centralized on a server farm, I say intelligent because a lot of logic can be placed in javascript and flash. The application is installed somewhere, on the web server, and it has been compiled into Java bytecode. Hmm ... write code, compile it, install it on a web server... why yes I think it IS an application.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/3B48b Safari/419.3)

They fixed the insane size of the list in the "more" section by using a grid of icons instead.

Kind of nice to gripe about something in the morning and have it changed by the afternoon...
 


Google announced that they have launched a new web-based application for the Apple iPhone that integrates its multiple services into a single interface. The new application is based on AJAX/Web 2.0 technologies and is launched when an iPhone user visits http://www.google.com.

The Google web-application offers tabs for Gmail, Calendar, Reader (RSS) and other services.

While Web-based applications have been the only Apple-sanctioned method to deploy applications to the iPhone, Steve Jobs has announced that a native iPhone developer's kit will be released in February 2008. This should allow developers to release native applications that do not require the use of Safari to launch.

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This is pretty nice, perhaps when Apple releases their official iPhone SDK Google will take it a step further and make a iPhone native interface to these services as well
 
I dont understand why someone would access their gmail that way when they could just have it downloaded to their phone.

the web app is not just for accessing gmail. Now I can access Google Reader whereas I've been using Netvibes.
 
There are such things as web applications. Yes, these tools provided by Google are applications. Just because you access them through a browser doesn't make them a "web page". GMail is an application whether you access it on your desktop PC or your iPhone. Likewise with Google Calendar, Docs, etc.

No, its not an web application. We develop web applications and the design spec dictates that the application will be locally cached and continue to run, even after the host is no longer connected to the originating server.

You guys really need to stop piggy-backing on bad and incorrect web terms that gain validity through common usage only.
 
Can someone tell me if I am missing something with using Gmail on my ipod touch.. either with this new incarnation or the standard web interface.

For the life of me I can't seem to get any Gmail login form to remember my username, which is a real PITA to type in each time. I've cleared my cookies, ticked "Remember Me" etc but no joy.

Basically I just want to mimic the usual Firefox behavior of having my username rememberd but not the password.. or is this some Safari/Gmail issue? (never used Safari before my touch)
 
The new interface is working for my Google apps, same as for my (separate, rarely used) google account. (That's what you mean by GAFYD? Google Apps for Your Domain?)

I just get an error when I try and log in with my Google Apps e-mail address and password. Guess I'll keep trying :)
 
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You guys really need to stop piggy-backing on bad and incorrect web terms that gain validity through common usage only.

And you need to be less myopic. Simply because you design web apps to run locally after a connection failure doesn't mean that's the definition of a web application or more broadly of an application. That's simply a requirement of your web application. Did the old Bloomberg terminals cease to be applications when they lost their data connection? Are very thin client Bloomberg "terminals" no longer applications? Does the application Google Maps cease to be an application when you're not connected to the internet?

For that matter - does Microsoft Office cease to be an application when you turn your computer off. I know that sounds insipid, but the debate we're having is similar. You may not be impressed by the service Google has launched. You certainly can be frustrated Apple hasn't yet allowed for developers to distribute native applications for the iPhone (note the qualifier native); native applications can certainly do many things better than server-centric applications (though not everything). But to call a sophisticated suite of services accessed by I'd bargain millions of people a web page and not an application is just silly.

Google's iPhone interface (we can agree there, right?) may have a very small footprint when loaded on your iPhone. But the fact that it does run processes (scripts) on your iPhone to facilitate the interface and the access of data clearly makes it an application. We could have a debate, though it would be semantical, if a simple HTML page which accesses sophisticated server-side processes is an application, part of an application or just a web-page. But - we'd be missing the point.

Applications, their concepts and manifestations have evolved as rapidly as the hardware and networks they leverage. Consider corporate ERP systems (thin clients and massive back end processes and now more commonly browser based thin-clients and massive back end processes), to sophisticated distributed multi-tier systems accessed via a browser, phone and other devices via static HTML, dynamic scripting and other means (e.g. Google's services), to modern online games, etc; the entire nature of what an application is (and has been for some time) exceeds the concept of a monolithic, independent and installed piece of software.
 
Just my two cents- an application like the Google stuff is an application on Google's servers, however it's not an application on my iphone. I think that's the distinction that should be made that might make everyone happy. "Web application" is just a new term for when servers host their application over a web page. I can't use or open the application without connecting to Google's web pages, so the application is not on my iphone.
 
User-Agent detection

That sucks. Now Nokia will have to spoof as iPhone to avoid their browser being discriminated (it's the same engine, dammit!). Opera had to spoof IE, they'll probably start spoofing iPhone as well.

How will mobile user-agent will look in 2 years?

User-Agent: "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; just kidding; MSIE 6.0; Vista) WebKit like Gecko or iPhone or AppleWebkit or HTML, but Opera/12.0 really, nah it's the Nokia S120 browser, hi lamers!"
 
I'm sorry

I hate to be a grammar nazi, but to the Macbytes guys:

Google launches Web 2.0 interfaces to its web apps for iPhone users

"it's" = "it is" always

sorry to be a debbie downer. go iphone!
 
nothing too special here, just a google app launcher into minified versions of their same old stuff.

any college sophomore CS student worth his salt should be able to whip this up in a week or two.

I *wish* I was a college sophomore CS student again :) But it did only take a week or two for the bulk of it.

--
Steve
 
Labels?

Amybody figure out how to add or remove one to or from a message yet? Only way I've been able to do so is to switch back to the desktop application -- er, mode, or whatever.
 
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